so who on this site has gotten placements through PMP so far?

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F**k crying, it should drive u to do more.......... so u can say to the MFker's that passed u up (when u do get on)
Im that same nicca that was on ur page asking can u check out my material.....
motherfluckers............................

o my bad, caught flash back....lol
 
alotta niggaz in here cryin, thats all i see......my dude thats DJ Nasty's best friend put me on to the site.....i said **** it, got on....threw some heat up there....2 days late riggs morales subscribed to my page....then a flood of other A&Rs....then 2 weeks later i had a track featured......then another one featured a week or 2 after that......then not much longer later they made me a featured producer on there.......

dudes that aint being noticed on there, maybe its because u just aint impressing nobody? ever thought that? maybe u need to rehaul ya style....take all that negative energy and put it into your music...so next time u submit somethin, cats will listen past 15 seconds

i really hate how dudes that been makin beats for less than 4 yrs think for some reason they deserve success.....u havent put in any work

look at any profession and u see that YEARS EXPERIENCE is the X-factor....this is in ANYTHING....look at anybody great at ANYTHING and u will see YEARSSS of experience behind them.......even producers that cats love to hate on, such as nitti...have midi cables that have put in more work than some of the producers that complain about the PMP ****....

its $50.....that a tank of gas (unless u drive a Geo) ...gimme a break....just like my dude said, u can spend 50 to send ya beats..or spend dumb amounts sendin out presskits, etc ...only for them to be thrown in the trash....

and ur crazy if u think 700 producers is comparable to the amount of dudes mailin CD's to these labels.....plus take into account of all the rappers sendin mail in......u gettin lost in the same pile as rappers and singers.....come on dawg, be realistic.......theres a reason why these industry dudes is ****in with PMP hard......because it makes life easier

but i noticed some cats get on there in hopes to "accidentally" get a placement....if u kno ya **** aint at that level...then dont get upset, just work on your craft, put in ya work and it will come....

maybe......

because production is not for everybody.....just because u love making beats doesnt mean you should be living off making beats.......
 
I remember when producers were willing to pay $50 an hour at a studio to get the right mix on the instrumentals they were shoping. That was a different era...one where alot of people's favorite producers were born out of.

I know producers that will spend 2gs to attend a music "seminar" to try to get a connect or two (just because you have the label phone # doesn't mean you have a connect) So it's not really about the bread.

I hear cats talking about getting placements like it's some sort of home pregnancy test...piss on the stick an find out in 7 minutes...I don't fault them they just don't really know how this business works. But don't let your emotions get the best of you my friend.

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Moving forward you'll need an online presence to get noticed...there aren't that many official spots to find dedicated producers. $50 dollars scares people off....thats the point! The ProductionMarketplace is not for everyone.

But judging by the posts in this thread I think you guys know that already...

I'm willing to put money on the fact that in the very near future the producers that are gonna be getting work in this game will have a presence on the pmp...matter of fact i already have (put my money on it)...and thats the difference between bosses and employees....STEP YOUR GAME UP!!
 
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URBANTACTICS - you right about a lot of that. The thing is, I did hear people on there that didn't seem to be getting any love, even though they did deserve it. I noticed a lot of people start putting characters like ( or [ or ! before their names to get on the first page of producers (listed alphabetically). There have to be dudes on there not getting any attention even though they DO deserve it. I'm not saying that I'm one of those people, but I did have some thing on the Featured Music section, and overall, I don't feel that my **** is THAT bad. When you're living in a place that has no scene, but has potential to support its artists if they succeed (and have good enough music), a place like PMP just doesn't get you the kind of attention you know you can get locally. When you think about it, people like Timbo and the Neptunes didn't start working with big names immediately (Aaliyah is an exception). They started making names for themselves locally, working with local (and unknown) artists who weren't afraid of experimenting, and eventually coming up with a new sound. Look at the Clipse, Kelis, Missy, Ginuwine...

I do agree about the people who been doing their thing for 6 months (for example). I been making beats for a little over 3 years at this poitn (although I took a lot of time off in those 3 years). But I'm a trained pianist (with a little over 16 years experience), and I started making music on computers about 11 years ago. I'm still learning how to make hip-hop and R&B, but I have a pretty good knowledge of recording technology, and I know how to use my equipment really well (and some of it is modular).
 
Hey Abom, while online, got a quickquestion. Over the net, it may seem like I'm being confrontational, but I'm sincerely asking, you're the guy who would know and I just wanted to hear an answer.

How many actual placements have you heard about unknown producers on PMP getting?

The answer could be 0 or 200, it wouldn't change my opinion that you have a good site for the right people.
 
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Abom said:
not really...it's a reality check...you don't have to defend the truth
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True, I was just joking....(guess i should have added the j/k). Actually, if false accusations are being made you defend the truth.
 
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
Hey Abom, while online, got a quickquestion. Over the net, it may seem like I'm being confrontational, but I'm sincerely asking, you're the guy who would know and I just wanted to hear an answer.

How many actual placements have you heard about unknown producers on PMP getting?

The answer could be 0 or 200, it wouldn't change my opinion that you have a good site for the right people.
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thats not confrontational homie...

As far as placements go most of the projects that were in the track dump are still in the dev stage so i don't know who's gonna make the final cut on any project yet, stay tuned. I'll say this though there are alot of producers that have made it to the A&Rs individual pmp back office pages..thats better than sittin in that pile of frisbees waiting for someone to cue up your track.(check the Riggs M. video and you'll see what I'm talking about)

If you look at it this way it may make a little more sense

The label money is drying up....The street money is starting to flow again...the producers with track records are not on the pmp because they need placements they're there because they want the indie and international doe. These are the people that you need to be paying attention to because their the ones that already know how to get checks...and they have no problem reppin themselves on the pmp...and most of them put up their own bread.

If you're a new producer trying to make a name for yourself then it's a good idea to have a presence in a place where the level of talent is far better than most any other destination online.

As far as being unknown there are a lot of producers who have gotten their name KNOWN from being on the pmp. It's not a "service" that guarentees placements, our job is to get people to come to the site (drive traffic) and to have people talking about the producers. Both of those objectives have been and will continue to be met.

The challenge for the individual producer is to make that song that touches a nerve with a buyer and to work out getting that check.

You gotta pace yourself in this game...trust me if people like Tyrone Fyffe are still getting checks then you need to be in this for the long haul..look at it as a business venture and not a lotto ticket
 
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The label money is drying up....The street money is starting to flow again...the producers with track records are not on the pmp because they need placements they're there because they want the indie and international doe. These are the people that you need to be paying attention to because their the ones that already know how to get checks...and they have no problem reppin themselves on the pmp...and most of them put up their own bread.
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so r u talkin about cats like Scram Jones & the heatmakerz (or on their level of "popularity"; i'm just using them as examples) or producers on a lower level?
 
that was some good info/insight right there....

i was thinking the same thing...even if a person has a chance of getting placement....depending on the person/artist or whatever, it might take a while to get back to them.....

for example a lot of artist hear a beat...(get it from a&r or however) and if they're feeling it, they put a song together for it.......
same thing happens if they hear another beat.....
so they might have a bunch of songs they've put together..... but then.....they're weeding thru the ones the like the most...
so like just cause a track dumped ended say......... yesterday........doesnt mean (if they heard something they liked) they're gona contact u the next day about the beat submitted....

thats the way i look at it........ and must of the folks that are on there (including me) are fairly new.... 1-2 months in (not saying everyone).
 
Jersey8five6 said:
so r u talkin about cats like Scram Jones & the heatmakerz (or on their level of "popularity"; i'm just using them as examples) or producers on a lower level?
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Producers like Scram Jones understand things in a little different way...they're number one goal is to keep their name out there. Look at it like this; McDonalds...they spend 10s of millions annnually to keep their brand out there...if there's a major concert Pepsi wants the signage...and these are some of the most well branded companies in the world.

Branding doesn't stop...for a producer branding is going to be more important than ever moving forward..the number of viable outlets to brand in are being diminished daily...I'm not saying that the pmp is the end all of branding for producers but if I'm a buyer who goes to the pmp looking for Scram Jones and I find Urban Tactics with comparable music I came up..ya see what I'm saying

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that was some good info/insight right there....

i was thinking the same thing...even if a person has a chance of getting placement....depending on the person/artist or whatever, it might take a while to get back to them.....

for example a lot of artist hear a beat...(get it from a&r or however) and if they're feeling it, they put a song together for it.......
same thing happens if they hear another beat.....
so they might have a bunch of songs they've put together..... but then.....they're weeding thru the ones the like the most...
so like just cause a track dumped ended say......... yesterday........doesnt mean (if they heard something they liked) they're gona contact u the next day about the beat submitted....

thats the way i look at it........ and must of the folks that are on there (including me) are fairly new.... 1-2 months in (not saying everyone).
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Yes sir...I think 3 to six months is typical for a call back ....especially with a new producer
 
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I've just recently signed up on PMP but i've been peepin it for a minute now. It's really good for producers/beatmakers who really don't have a strong local scene which is what really drew me in to join. Honestly $50 a month isn't asking for much especially if you look at what could possibly be gained and the type of A&R and record label execs that now have access to your work. If you joined and it didn't work out put in some more time to perfect your craft and try it again.
 
I rather myspace grind until I make some disposable income so My music pays for PMP. But it looks like it's a hot oppurtunity, but i'm lacking money and overloaded with musical talent. Sooner or lata the money will catch up with the skills. lol
 
Things you spend $50 on

- A night at the club

- Dinner with a lady

- A tank of gas

- Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright

- One concert ticket

Think about being on the PMP like this...

When you go out to eat, do you normally see one restaurant or are there a lot of restaurants located in the same area...

When you go to buy a car, is there one dealership or are there a bunch of them located in the same area...

When you go to a fast food joint... there's normally 3 or 4 more right in the same area...

... the moral of all of this is... if you are looking to sell music, you should probably be where the buyers are looking.

... or an actor in Montana probably has less of a chance of landing a Hollywood movie role... than an actor that's already in Hollywood.

I live in Seattle and I know that nothing remotely Hip Hop resides here... some people need the web and a place like the PMP to even have a remote chance of competing.

The PMP is an opportunity... be glad that it even exists.

... even if you don't use it yet... or cancel and plan to rejoin after you get a new batch of beats...

Have a great day
 
i think PMP is a great thing but i'm only 14 and i don't think it will be worth it for me to "waste" $50/month on something i probably won't get much out of.

i'm also very lucky to live in New York City so i have a great local scene and i can easily set up meetings with A&Rs than people outside of big cities like NYC & LA.

once i think my beats would have a chance with industry guys i will definitely consider using PMP as an additional way to hustle.

thx a ton to abom and all the guys for thinking of this site. you guys are genius for thinking of a site like this that can actually yield results.
 
bobsmitt said:
i think PMP is a great thing but i'm only 14 and i don't think it will be worth it for me to "waste" $50/month on something i probably won't get much out of.

i'm also very lucky to live in New York City so i have a great local scene and i can easily set up meetings with A&Rs than people outside of big cities like NYC & LA.

once i think my beats would have a chance with industry guys i will definitely consider using PMP as an additional way to hustle.

thx a ton to abom and all the guys for thinking of this site. you guys are genius for thinking of a site like this that can actually yield results.
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which borough do u live in?
 
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