Nate Will
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probably manhattan cause no one from ny says there from nyc unless they from manhattan. In any case he would've sed his boruogh
so who on this site has gotten placements through PMP so far?
bobsmitt
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good guess lol.Nate Will said:
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Jersey8five6
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lol, damn u'r lucky. u'r parents must have [some] good ass job/business. i'm tryin to move back to jersey and its so damn expensive there, i can't imagine how regular people can even live in manhattan.
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Nate Will
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chances are you in midtown or lower east.
Which ever, you in the center of music opprtunity. I chill in midtoown on park ave all the time.
well not really midtown, 96th and lex area
Which ever, you in the center of music opprtunity. I chill in midtoown on park ave all the time.
well not really midtown, 96th and lex area
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bobsmitt
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i live in the upper west side actually lolz. i don't **** with the east side or midtown that often. wayy too tourist infested in those parts of the city.Nate Will said:
Jersey8five6 said:
yeah that is true. i would like to still be living in the city when i'm older but i'm always like how the **** am i gonna afford living in the city.
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
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So, now I gotta ask, if I cancel my acct. These guys would have no way of getting back to me if they decided 6 months down the line to use one of my tracks? Or would they have already hit me back?Abom said:
I do postal/email/hand to hand submissions all the time. I'm usually told within a week or 2 which tracks they're interested in. A whole year can go by before what comes out of it is concrete, but I get some type of heads up.
With PMP, the fact I'm getting no response positive or negative is indicating to me no ones listening more than 20 seconds(which is standard, trust me, I've dealt with this for a while, done A&R work myself). Again, others are getting acknowleged, they're getting the benefits, if I'm not, you should understand my scepticism.
It's not the $50, that's pennies. It's the fact that for $50 I'm getting absolutely nothing. 1st day I signed up JX who I knew outside of PMP hit me up, then Conrad who I talked to hit me up a few days later. That was more than enough to make me feel my $50 was worth it.
But now after 3 months with no type PMP feedback and a cellphone that rung twice *EDIT* 3 times with opportunities while I was typing this post(I don't bullsh*t, I stay moving), you gotta understand where myself and other producers who are making big buzzes where they're at and getting treated like producer #4570210 on PMP can get led away.
I put the beginning of this long rant in bold because I really want an answer to the 1st question. And again, I'm just wanting answers, not trying to put you on any type of "spot" or "expose" anything. It's just, as much as I'm on the net, i'm way more used to the traditional go in the studio with artists and push beats to them method. This is all new to me, now I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't kill my acct. too soon.
Abom
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deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
There's nothin to expose homie...and we are not in the business of sellin dreams. It's all there out in front. I believe if a producer knows an A&R directly then it shouldn't be a problem to get feedback on their tracks...you don't need the pmp for that. For a person who has that type of reach the pmp becomes a management system...(ie keep up on what projects are out there and find out about projects that you don't have access to, that Coptic video explains it best...people know to look for him on the pmp and it helps him make money)
If you've done A&R work professionaly then I'm sure you know the album building process doesn't happen overnight. Since your phone is ringing with opportunities then the effect of the pmp on your career might be negligible...but I can say this, there are alot of producers that are in demand who use the pmp to keep their name out there.
The bottom line is if a few hundred tracks make it to the A&R, manager or artist then how can we expect them to reach out and contact everyone whose waiting for their phone to ring or their inbox to fill up with offers. Thats why we call it a "track dump" because there is no requirement for the A&Rs to reach out to anyone for any reason...believe me they rather that. If they want to work with you they'll contact you. And there are many who have been getting contacted.
If people are getting acknowledgement and benefits then those are the people you should be talking to...I have yet to see anyone ask Sleep Deez, Jim Bond, Urban Tactics or Team Green how they're getting it poppin on the pmp (at least not in this thread) So I would surmise that the cause of your skepticism might not be what the pmp can or cannot do for you it might have something to do with where you believe you're at in your career. This is just my opinion but sounds to me like what you have is a management issue.
I don't pretend to know when or if someone will hit YOU back all I know is there are people getting hit back. If you're account goes inactive then all links to your pmp producers page are dead. But that shouldn't be enough of a reason for you to stay with something that gives you an uneasy feeling bro. At the end of the day you have to do what works best for you because there are cats that approach this grind with a smile on their face...and those are the ones that can low crawl through the pig sh#t cesspool that this industry has become.
We're just trying to play our position and do our part...your right, it's not about the money my friend.
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Mainboi23SX
My Man...
so I guess the ? still wasn't answered, lol
Abom
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Mainboi23SX said:
I'd say this if anyone is strictly on the pmp for placements then you gotta lot to learn....
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Mainboi23SX
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Abom said:
True, from what now learned the site is more geared to getting name recognition to help gain placements. A lot of young-in's probably won' understand that it's not sign-up and automatically your getting calls. It's just another innovated tool to get your name out there on another level.
(I suppose)
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URBANTACTICS
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real talkAbom said:
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Jet City
aka Ben Frank E.
I don't know that anyone could go run, get on pmp and get beats placed and a deal overnight. just as much of a grind as rocbattle.... i aint mad at it though.
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Kalon2000
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Mainboi23SX said:
That's how I approach it. I'm a nobody here. I'm a rookie. I feel I'm okay. I don't spend all day hoping i get contacted off PMP, nor do I sit all day trying to force myself to make a track just to put it on PMP. I let my beats come to me naturally, whether that takes a week or a month. I work I goto school I do other things. I love my music but I refuse to force myself to make music. And I remain humble.
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that one dude
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...So I would surmise that the cause of your skepticism might not be what the pmp can or cannot do for you it might have something to do with where you believe you're at in your career. This is just my opinion but sounds to me like what you have is a management issue...
yeah maybe
BUT
the basic question was: has anyone been placed yet?
the answer was: NO. but stay tuned - these things take time
AND its already been said that the "name" producers are doing it for branding purposes, not placement, no?
and since every career move you contemplate is by defintition a "management issue"
to frame the anwser that is was frame is to say that PMP is basically for people without "management issues"
which means among others:
noobs, people who've yet to do their first A&R meeting or make their first placement, people with no management or high rollers
...Thats why we call it a "track dump" because there is no requirement for the A&Rs to reach out to anyone for any reason...
I would say that's the nustshell of the whole thing
if the people you're trying to get to already return you or your managers phone calls you dont need PMP
BUT if you need a way to get to people you havent gotten to yet
it's sort of a virtual music seminar
thats what I'm gettin from this thread
yeah maybe
BUT
the basic question was: has anyone been placed yet?
the answer was: NO. but stay tuned - these things take time
AND its already been said that the "name" producers are doing it for branding purposes, not placement, no?
and since every career move you contemplate is by defintition a "management issue"
to frame the anwser that is was frame is to say that PMP is basically for people without "management issues"
which means among others:
noobs, people who've yet to do their first A&R meeting or make their first placement, people with no management or high rollers
...Thats why we call it a "track dump" because there is no requirement for the A&Rs to reach out to anyone for any reason...
I would say that's the nustshell of the whole thing
if the people you're trying to get to already return you or your managers phone calls you dont need PMP
BUT if you need a way to get to people you havent gotten to yet
it's sort of a virtual music seminar
thats what I'm gettin from this thread
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
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And this is where I'm at a lost. Half the artists on PMP I can contact directly, send stuff to directly and get feedback from. I thought PMP would widen my span of contacts, I signed up assuming the wrong things. And again, all of you making moves thru PMP would be idiots to close accts. But if you've got no new subscribers or messages over 3 months time, you gotta realize your songs are sitting in a track dump the same way if you mailed off a CD it would sit on a table.that one dude said:
I see some of you want to say I'm "whining and biching" but look what's going on in your life. Some of you think paying $1895 A MONTH RENT and $395 a month for a car is rediculous, but come out to SoCal where a 1 bedroom's $1200 and you need at least 3/2baths, everythings 20 miles away, you won't want to hop in no bucket that might breakdown. For me, it's rediculous to pay $50 a month, be part of a $3500 a month gross margin and recieve absolutely no feedback when I have most of the A&Rs up there's contacts and have familiarized myself with a few outside of PMP... but that's just me if you're getting feedback, it's well worth the $50.
Again, PMP's a great site, very innovative, I probably will sign up again at a later time, but for now, I'm gonna fall back and see where it goes. If it's $200 to sign up when I decide to sign back up, I still will resign if I feel it's worth it. I just got this thing about giving people money and seeing nothing in return. Apparently even Abom understands that, so he personally contacts members when they're getting feedback to let them know. I got absolutely nothing for 3 months. So it's prolly that my beats suck and I'm not industry ready. lol.
By the way, Yukmouth Presents : United Ghettos of America Eye Candy out today on Smoke A Lot/Rap A Lot/Asylum, go cop the CD and DVD(if over 18). I knew I was on it a week after we gave him the song. So you gotta understand why Iwould like hearing a little feedback and when I don't hear anything I feel there's no progression being made worth my $50.
Perfect example : this thread prolly got me 10-15 myspace hits today, but not 1 confirmation that anyone even viewed my PMP page today, I'm not sure I'm even being advertised for my $50, I'd rather pay HHG.com or AHH $200 a month to run a banner for me. But that's me.
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Jersey8five6
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^R u sure it comes out today?
Cduniverse & FYE say july 31, and amazon says "February 20, 2007" (wut r they smoking?") and have it available.
r u on one track or more?
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7359886&BAB=E
http://www.fye.com/United-Ghetto-s-...VVproductId8516253VVcatId455366VVviewprod.htm
http://www.amazon.com/United-Ghetto...3505405?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1184703084&sr=8-3
Cduniverse & FYE say july 31, and amazon says "February 20, 2007" (wut r they smoking?") and have it available.
r u on one track or more?
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7359886&BAB=E
http://www.fye.com/United-Ghetto-s-...VVproductId8516253VVcatId455366VVviewprod.htm
http://www.amazon.com/United-Ghetto...3505405?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1184703084&sr=8-3
Studio_Profect
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bobsmitt said:
Yea wayyy to many tourist in midtown. I live around the upper west side in Washington heights. It's not as expensive as some of you think.
Manhattan has ghettos too people! lol
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Scratch n Beat
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People kill me with the whole, "if your mad and whining, maybe your beats suck" or whatever logic they come up with. Dudes that have had success on PMP are dudes that got there early when many producers didn't even know about the site yet, then they got "1's" and parenthesis in fronts of their names to show up first under producers searches...then acting like sheer talent alone got them moving on the site.
N*gga please.
Nothing is wrong with asking questions, especially when spending your own money, regarldess of the amount, thats why most sites have FAQ, or support (which PMP does). It would be nice to know my page hits or something of that manner, something saying that I have at least been checked out. If you haven't been getting run, you really don't know if people think you are wack, OR maybe just nobody has even checked out your page.
I don't plan on dropping my PMP account ANYTIME soon, its definitely one of the best (if not THE best) options out there, but just because you have questions about the site doesn't mean you're complaining or whining or not ready or whatever the ****.
N*gga please.
Nothing is wrong with asking questions, especially when spending your own money, regarldess of the amount, thats why most sites have FAQ, or support (which PMP does). It would be nice to know my page hits or something of that manner, something saying that I have at least been checked out. If you haven't been getting run, you really don't know if people think you are wack, OR maybe just nobody has even checked out your page.
I don't plan on dropping my PMP account ANYTIME soon, its definitely one of the best (if not THE best) options out there, but just because you have questions about the site doesn't mean you're complaining or whining or not ready or whatever the ****.
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deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
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Lesson in the industry unfolding in your faces.Jersey8five6 said:
I'm not sure it comes out today, that's what I was told. I was also compensated for numerous tracks, but only one was confirmed on the album. I'll know if any others made it when I pick it up. If not they'll be on later releases. Some recent issues have came up, they may have pushed it back a week since Yuk will be touring with E-40.
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biggrome
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Look at the view count on this thread...
it even blew past the FP Shirts thread... (damn!)
For the record, I don't think anybody was complaining or whining in this thread.
A lot of good views were expressed, things cleared up, etc.
Make a banga
it even blew past the FP Shirts thread... (damn!)
For the record, I don't think anybody was complaining or whining in this thread.
A lot of good views were expressed, things cleared up, etc.
Make a banga
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