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Shawty Redd Interview..talking about Fruity Loops, and where his 808's came from
Mattman04
Kit Ramsey's brother
When people interview these veteran producers about FL, some of them are just spouting random stuff they heard, since chances are they never worked with it.
These guy's are used to what they use, and that's it. They know what they use works, and might not even be concerned with new technology.
Someone comes up asks them a question about some software they never used, or barely used, they are gonna say something, anything just to respond to the interviewer.
Look at some other old schoolers with the same or similar setups they had 10+ years ago.
Even when 9th wonder was interviewed in computer music mag, he seemed kinda vague about what he liked about version 7.
Who knows, he might not care a flip about an update.
These guy's are used to what they use, and that's it. They know what they use works, and might not even be concerned with new technology.
Someone comes up asks them a question about some software they never used, or barely used, they are gonna say something, anything just to respond to the interviewer.
Look at some other old schoolers with the same or similar setups they had 10+ years ago.
Even when 9th wonder was interviewed in computer music mag, he seemed kinda vague about what he liked about version 7.
Who knows, he might not care a flip about an update.
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biggrome
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Guilty J said:
Yeah, it's like Shawty Redd pissed in their Cheerios....
Use LIVE 7, bet Shawty Redd can't diss LIVE 7...
Awesome piece of damn software.... I challenge anybody to name something that cannot be done in LIVE 7...
... go ahead, dig.
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biggrome
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besides that...
That's crazy anyway. Export them joints to .wav. Keep rockin' in LIVE 7.
What programs does do that? The program files are developed by the company that made the software, so if your program comes out first... how / why would you make it compatible with everything that somebody else is doing.
Bogus response.
Drum Racks kick azz, Warp kicks azz, Session clips kick azz, Arrangement view.... best sequencer hands down.
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biggrome said:
All you to mix 500 tracks in One Mixer at once
aiight I quit
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biggrome
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It can do that.
Mr SS
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LOL Rome's gonna get an endorsement deal real soon from ableton.
Nah but i gotta question, About How long did it take for you to learn the ropes to Live?, cause i've heard great things about it, but i look at the program and it just looks like a big mess to me lol. the interface is just crazy
Nah but i gotta question, About How long did it take for you to learn the ropes to Live?, cause i've heard great things about it, but i look at the program and it just looks like a big mess to me lol. the interface is just crazy
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Kalon2000
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ChaseNCashe said:
co-sign.....it's taken me 4 years to get to where I am as far as this. I still don't everything about this program. I can say this...I don't see my self ever using anything else...at least not for a while.
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biggrome
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Mr SS said:
It didn't take long at all, it does look like a mess but it starts to look like less of a mess the more you use it.
I only started using it because I wanted to use Ozone 3 instead of the REASON mastering suite. Then I decided to make a clip and play a simple pattern. Then I copied that clip and changed the pattern... then I copied that clip and to another instrument and it played right along. Then I put the LIVE filter delay on the next clip... and I was sold... almost.
I hit record in LIVE and recorded all of the clips, you can change 'em on the fly. The I started sequencing the song and everything snapped right to where I wanted it too. Zooming in and out was a breeze. REASON didn't have any wave forms in it so trying to split something is damn near impossible.
Plus LIVE has actual tutorials right in the program. So you can learn it without reading the manual. They have a ton of vids on their site too.
In a week, you'll know everything to get you going and then you'll think of other stuff and you'll find that it can do whatever you're thinking.
Milez502
Mr. Don Dada
props for postin this! this is a nice interview...
Mattman04
Kit Ramsey's brother
biggrome said:
You know some programs still don't do that.
It's not really a big deal in most cases, but having the magic "render to tracks" button in your DAW is nice for sure.
Actually I don't think Cubase can do that....How about PT?
It's a nice feature, and since I use many vsti that aren't found in studios it would be pointless to be able to open a project of mine in another studio.
For instance I use Shortcircuit in basically every project for all my vsti sampling duties.
How many studios have that?
In my situation sending wave files is the way to go.
I know the Reason, and Cubase crowd will probably say they get by fine without a render to tracks feature, but once you get used to hitting the magic presto button, you will hate having to solo tracks out again.
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1005
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Mattman04 said:
AFAIK Cubase & Nuendo have been able to render vst tracks into wav for couple years now.
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marcus82
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Mattman04 said:
i mean i could hammer a nail with rock, but if someone passes me a hammer you won't see me defending the rock's ability to drive a nail...tools are made to make life easier, which is why i also don't understand Red's comment that FL is "too easy, i like a challenge". seems kind of retarded if you ask me. i guess the software hardware turfwar nonsense is still alive and well. i think these dudes get paid to bash software. imagine what would happen to Akai if there was a suitable alternative to the mpc. why do you think the MPD falls short in so many areas compared to the mpc's functionality...they don't want people going out out and buying a $300 usb/firewire device instead of dropping a grand or two on a traditional mpc...the company would fold. how's that for a hiphop matrix
that's my rant
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Mattman04
Kit Ramsey's brother
Mr SS said:
Yeah, the first time I demo'd Live I felt the same way, but when you get your head around the concepts the workflow makes sense, and seems like a very fast way to work.
I almost bought version 5, but went with FL for the free lifetime updates.
Ableton's upgrade prices are kinda steep, but if your making good money at this it will pay for itself anyway.
Their different apps with a different approach to getting to the same place. Both are quirky in comparison to the standard linear sequencer types although this is not really a bad thing. It just sets them apart from a workflow standpoint.
1005 said:
Ok, since Cubase 4?
Maybe the Cube was one of the last to integrate this feature.
Ableton added it in 6 right? I think Fl added it around 5, so there is a trend in the last few years to integrate this feature.
So can we safely say all of the big apps besides Reason have this featue now?
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1005
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Mattman04 said:
hm, i have to check but i think even cubase sx 2 had the normal "export to audio" function. i know sonars and logic's renders are faster, but in the end it's the same thing.
Mattman04 said:
reason shouldn't be even in this discussion cos it can't be used for mixing.
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as20gp
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Mattman04
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marcus82 said:
I think the mv8xxx is a solid replacement, but where Roland have missed the boat in the lower end market.
The sp555 is more geared to live use, and is more a beefed up sp404 than a slim mv8800.
A smaller ....mv4400? ...Yeah why not?
That would be Rolands ticket I think!
Akai has the 1000, and most mpc users are 1000 users, and price definitely has something to do with it.
As for the pad controller issue. Part of the reason I passed on the mpd24 in favor of the TF was the issues with the rotary encoders, and the reviews on the pads weren't too inspiring either.
I'm hearing similar about the pads on the mpd32 now.
Korg would have stomped out Akai long ago in the pad controller area, if it had a vast amount of controls like the 32, and lights that didn't look gimmicky.
Akai's big problem nowadays is that they seem to really have their money into the design, and marketing team.
They make fantastic looking gear, but it often is released in a buggy pre beta state.
1005 said:
Well by "export to audio", are you talking about the ability to render every single track as it's own file all at once with one click?
Or do you simply mean "export to audio" in the sense that whatever is not muted will be rendered?
As for Reason if you make a beat in Reason standalone you can mix the beat there, provided your happy with it's built in effects, and don't want to rewire.
As far as I know to render audio from Reason you have to solo individual tracks in order to create a wave file for each track separately.
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ATL Crunk Man
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Shawty Redd is da man. Y'all can't get mad @ dat cat for speakin' his mind. He's earned the right to say the things that he said. As far as the FL Studio thing goes, why catch feelings? He's just givin' you his opinion.