Is Reason 6.0 Worth it?

Good vid,aint nothing in reason that can **** with that or **** with logics physical modeling period!!!

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Dude aint gone show no videos with someone using just Reason nothing else just stock sounds and samples. We can show vid after vid of other daws that are better he can't! He wants to show you beats that he got mastered then come back and act like he did it in Reason. I've seen his quotes from PH where he admits getting his stuff mastered,but he'll say he did the whole thing in reason. That's why i don't come here much dudes like that (gearsluts) throw me off! I'm going to try and ignore this dude for real. anyway Reason can't compete with this.


You're a dam lie!!! I never said I got my stuff mastered, SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT AND i CAN MAKE A VIDEO OF MYSELF AS i HAVE VIDEOS UP ALREADY ON U TUBE. so stop telling lies and playing two people online!!! YOu just told on yourself saying you saw me in PH, who are you in the PH site? Hmmmm You just hate the fact that I can and you can't. I just did a track recently for a guy in PH for his website, what I look like getting it mastered? I have knowledge and the equipment to make a top quality pristine mix, can you? Not your home boy, not your cousin, not some U Tube video, I am talking about U!!! Where is your mixed material? And if you said I was in PH saying I got my stuff mastered got get the quote like you usually do from over there and show everyone, and if you don't come back with it YOU'RE A DAM LIAR!!! What I look like paying a mastering person money with tracks AND NO DAM VOCALS? That sounds dumb as hell. I mix well that's all. Thank you for the compliment though. :) It just doesn't make any sense to get tracks mastered with no vocals!!!

Further more it's not a battle dip stick, it's a BLIND TEST you do know what that is right? You're angry for no reason, STFU, you have no music to show you're all talk. Don't show me a video of someone else you're the one talking why don't you show a video with you!!! There are videos of Reason U Tube also, smh get over it funk!!!

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Man i been down that road too long with phead,waiting for them to do what real daws have been doing for years,it got old for me. Once i finish these last few songs i'm selling it or if my kids want it i'll let them play with it because it's on a kids level anyway. The only reason i used it is because i was too lazy to learn logic,but once you learn logic you think Reason is just a toy. If i were you i would jump ship now and fully learn cubase (if you don't already) because waiting on phead will get you nowhere. I bet you what you're looking for won't be in v7,v8, or v9 lol. Reason is a baby daw phead don't want to confuse the rookies by making it more advanced.

If you had a brain you would know PH is not trying to be a DAW, how many times does someone has to tell you that or are you just a crazy lunatic? They are not trying to go that route either you love'em or hate'em. Guys like you always b****ing about this and that, WHERE'S YOUR MUSIC? Because I want to hear this great music you have being you all DAWed out and what not, I want to hear how professional you really are. I acknowledge the fact YOU'RE ALL TALK!!! If you had a brain about Mixing and Mastering you would know mixing is basically the most important part, mastering will only tweak so much not intensively and bring up loudness that's all. If you have peaks and valley's in your mix a mastering engineer will tell you "FIX THOSE BEFORE YOU BRING IT TO ME AGAIN", why? Because he is not responsible for that. Learn what the heck you are talking about before you go off on the deep end.

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My problem with sampletank is it don't chop samples. You have to chop ahead of time and then load. I want sampletank functions inside the NNXT badly!!!!!!!! Or sampletank to chop samples. I don't own battery 3....thinking about it. But as sson as I do reason will give me what I want and then I'll have yet another useless vst. (well...battery 3 does come with like 12 gigs or something like that worth of drums and sounds.)

What's important about it? Well....say you are working on a remix. You may have an idea for it....might not. You might want to use a drum loop (might not). Say you want to use a drum loop to spark an idea. Of course you can use all of the rex files of chops you made.....what if you don't have recycle? Pitch shifting in the sapmler allows you to switch inbetween different drum loops on the fly and they are already syncs......awesome....open door for creativity......set an arrangement quickly...choose the best drum loop/combination of loops/ riffs...ect.....twist knobs with the loop on the fly. When I want to spark an idea......I don't want to rely on the sequencer for that. I do for editing....that's what is great about pitch shifting in the sequencer....stretching in the sequencer. Thinking.."man...I did all of that but maybe It will all sound better at 98 bpms instead of 94bpm. Or....I want to add a change right here but the sample is going to be off timing if replay it. I can change the sample or recording to fit the new bridge I'm about to lay down (since I'm focused on editing and not creating the idea). Now I can change the pitch right there in my editing work area at the click of a button.

Sound like you wanna go for those sounds lol hahah lmao 12 gigs aint bad lol

I understand what you're saying, I have Sonic Synth and Miroslav Philharmonik with the time stretch thingy, I never used it lol What you want is basically your preference. Maybe with the live sampling they may add stretch and pitch shift to that. Me I would use the sequencer which is already now. Sample Tank isn't perfect so it's not going to chop for you. No one program is, you just have to chose what's best for you. Though I know Reason isn't perfect, can I make a quality track from start to finish? Sure I can. I would like some improvements but I am not going to sit around complaining, I will get to work and give to the suggestion box and keep is sparkling!!!

Peace bro
 
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DANOC"

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Originally Posted by selig
Some would say that mixing should be done by specialist, not by a composer!

I'm not sure I would say that mastering is any harder to learn than mixing, but I do agree that a composer would be better served to learn more about basic engineering and mixing than mastering (based on how often they would be mixing compared to mastering, and how creative you can get in mixing vs mastering).

Composers compose, mixers mix, mastering engineers master. Any one of these CAN learn the other's job, with time and basic talent. IF you are lucky to have a team or group of like minded friends that produce music, you could consider having one of you learn mastering, and another become a mix specialist, another learn great tracking or editing/tuning skills, etc. :-)

I consider myself blessed to have a great long term relationship with a great mastering engineer (the legendary and surprisingly affordable Bob Olhsson, Motown etc), which is also handy for learning tricks and asking questions when you have no choice but to master something yourself.



Nicely said Selig. For me I wanted to get into mixing because I know exactly what I want, a mixer doesn't. I know exactly where I want my instruments, how I want my snare to sparkle and snap, how the bass should be, kicks, etc. I remeber sitting with a mixer in Quad studios and he totally messed up the mix, my mix at my studio sounded much better, Beat maker E.I. that comes here can attest to that he was with me, and the track was for his artist. E.I. told me also that my mix was dam near perfect! So when I finished mixing it sent it to the mastering plant and bammmmmmmmmmm !!! done deal. So I mix my own stuff now. So I wear two hats, I compose and mix. But for me I will not step into the mastering realm because I really don't feel like taking that on. I have enough on my plate.
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Dude you so ****ing stupid you don't even remember the shit you say! Just like mwalker made you look like a fool with quotes that you forgot now it's my turn. One minute you say you don't master then the next you say you do,which one is it? You just a clown period! We not talking about who beats are better we talking about the Reason shit you talking. We're talking about Reason being trash and below other daws clown not beats. Just because some people can make beats off of reason don't make it not trash,when compared to other daws. **** what you say reason is in the daw section of every mag clown! You just to dumb to learn anything else,you the only clown i know who bounces from protools to Reason haha. ****ing clown!!!
 
Dude you so ****ing stupid you don't even remember the shit you say! Just like mwalker made you look like a fool with quotes that you forgot now it's my turn. One minute you say you don't master then the next you say you do,which one is it? You just a clown period! We not talking about who beats are better we talking about the Reason shit you talking. We're talking about Reason being trash and below other daws clown not beats. Just because some people can make beats off of reason don't make it not trash,when compared to other daws. **** what you say reason is in the daw section of every mag clown! You just to dumb to learn anything else,you the only clown i know who bounces from protools to Reason haha. ****ing clown!!!


E.I. told me also that my mix was dam near perfect! So when I finished mixing it sent it to the mastering plant and bammmmmmmmmmm !!! done deal. So I mix my own stuff now. So I wear two hats, I compose and mix. But for me I will not step into the mastering realm because I really don't feel like taking that on. I have enough on my plate.

Dude you're an a-hole for real now show the other post that I said where I said FOR MY OWN PROJECTS I WOULDN'T DO MASTERING I would mix in Reason and how I mix in Reason(back then it was Record, and how I don't use Protools to do it unless A CLIENT REQUEST IT), AND WHEN A CLIENT GETS MY TRACK THEY WILL SEND IT TO MASTERING NOT ME PERSONALLY If they ask me to send I have no problem sending it.!!! Show that one StillFunk/MR44KHZ.
Duhh Hence I'M IN QUAD STUDIOS, why in the hell would I be in Quad mixing my own joints when I have a studio at home where I do mixing for me!!! THAT WAS FOR A CLIENT, GET IT!!! It's like you wanna understand what YOU wanna understand and take ish out of context and you do that all the time STILLFUNKIN!!! Notice I was with ANOTHER PERSON I wasn't alone.
That quote was about mixing for a client and that client after I finished that particular mix IT WOULD BE SENT TO MASTERING!!!. That's all that don't prove nothing, again why in the hell would I send a track with no vocals on a track to the mastering plant? You don't send a track to get mastered then put vocals on it, you mix everything then get it mastered. See Funk you love to take things out of context and you only talk about one side you never talk about what else I said also. So post my tracks too while you're at it.

STILLFUNKIN IS MR44KHZ YOU'RE NOT FOOLING ANYONE!!!

MR44KHZ you and STILLFUNKIN are the same person one this site, YOU BOTH HAVE NO MUSIC, AND YOU BOTH HAVE THE SAME LINGO WHEN YOU TALK, YOU THINK I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT? See You are the only one that really care what I say and if I wasn't so important you wouldn't TRY to dig deep about what I say. What you trying to do? I got videos those don't lie, you told everyone that I couldn't have bought all the VST's I have I made a video to prove you wrong, now say that's a lie, cause I got the video and will put it up again. How do you sit on the internet as a 90 year old man worrying about someone, whether they are full of crap or not. Why are you worried? You're tight because I said PUT UP SOME MUSIC so to divert that you try to bring up some lame misunderstanding on your part trying to use my quote to beguile someone, it won't work. So Nope I don't master my own projects, get it? MY OWN, a client they will take my track and master it, GET IT! Now go back since you can grab my quotes and grab that, I bet you won't because it will make you look silly!!! Anytime a man let the size of fonts piss him off or urk him I would have to say you're delusional and uptight. PULL YOUR SKIRT DOWN, this is all you do is cause chaos even if a person is in Peace, I ignore you and you then use another name so you can argue, if I get under your skin as you say why talk to me? Why play two people.

What's your name over in PH's forum, this is going to put a lid on your arse once and for all. You have no music and you play double people, AGAIN WHAT'S YOUR NAME OVER IN PH!!! See you're going to be busted because you should have never brought anything from PH to here. See you think you're slick but you're not!!! If you don't answer this question I and others will know you're full of ish!!!

What really urks you is that you hate the fact for example you asked what's the difference between having Sonar and waves 4000 SSL to Reasons SSL9000k, and I broke it down the difference. You're not able to come back with a counter difference, only thing left to do is TRY AND KNOCK ME AND MY QUOTES!!! See what you also forget is you're saying I said one thing but there are witnesses HERE who are over in PH that can verify what I said and know what I mean, yet they don't give a rats arse about only YOU DO!!!

So now Ima put you on the hot seat, STILLFUNKIN/MR44KHZ show use a video of you making a beat, or playing drums, because you did tell us back when I was here you were nothing but a drummer, yet you know all this piano stuff you read music yada yada and I don't read music yet I am able to belt out tracks, but the thing is you do respect I do make music :) But I don't respect a cat that talks a bunch of bullish like he knows it all tries to coerce his thoughts and opinions on others AND NOT HAVE NOT ONE SIMPLE TRACK NOR VIDEO!!! In your case show a video of you making a track just one. Both STILLFUNKIN/MR44KHZ it would be highly unlikely that you both can't show music nor a video, you would have one or the other if you were NOT THE SAME PERSON!!!! Again I give back by making videos sharing what I know giving out free sounds, when have you ever did that? NEVER!!! show me maybe I missed that, and you sure dam well didn't do it as MR44KHZ because you just started here fresh!!!

Remember it took you years to make one video of what you SUPPOSE to have had in your studio? I don't believe that was your house or your equipment!!! In your video you have triple the stuff I had and YOU CAN'T PRODUCE ONE TRACK? YOU'RE EXPOSED!!! You walked around talking about this was your wife camcorder LOL dude you have thousands of dollars worth of equipment and that's your wives cam? Ok, I will believe that one. Yeah Right!!! Throughout the video not once did we see your face, you see my face on U Tube. All I heard was some nasty nose snorting like you were sick, and you made that video after I put up mines where you told everyone in FP that it was impossible for me to have all those programs and that I was lying to indicate that I was using cracked programs. I made that video because I take cracked programs serious and you were once again PROVEN WRONG!!! It's evident you don't want to be wrong about nothing. You can't tell me nothing because you don't have no music and you're all talk!!!

You hate me so much every thread I go into you come and follow me, yeah I posted that up to show how you stalk me from forum to forum, whether I tell the truth or not why do you care so dam much about me? You're the one looking stupid just by following me and trying to mess up any thread I make you did that crap here also. AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IT NOW!!! Proof is in the pudding, as soon as I came back here who comes flying in a thread trying to get me banned by a Mod? MR STILLFUNKIN HIMSELF!!! I ignored you in PH and you're like a little girl who wants attention from a guy that don't want nothing to do with her. !!! If anything comes out of this, fact and for sure is that I CAN MAKE MUSIC, HAVE TRACKS AND VIDEOS DOING MUSIC AND EXPLAINING SOME STUFF AND GAVE OUT SOME FREEBIES AND YOU ABSOLUTELY DON'T HAVE ANY MUSIC, NO VIDEOS, YOU TALK A GOOD GAME AND HAVEN'T GIVEN OUT NOTHING BUT CHAOS!!! Thank you for the chaotic times!!!

What you need to do is deal with your spirit and not let your lower desires get the best of you and become peaceful with yourself, because it is a fact though I am not the only one you have beef with so it's not me. Once you find peace you will stop the chaotic scenes in here or anywhere.
 
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by definition...

in·se·cure/ˌinsiˈkyo͝or/


Adjective:
  1. (of a person) Not confident or assured; uncertain or anxious.
  2. (of a thing) Not firm or set; unsafe.

is it me or is Danoc insecure... seriously... lets go by definition...

here is another one...

by definition...

con·tra·dic·tion/ˌkäntrəˈdikSHən/


Noun:
  1. A combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another.
  2. A person, thing, or situation in which inconsistent elements are present.

how many contradictions have Danoc posted? again... let go by definition!!!

the brother has serious problems/issues...

another point... Danoc... remember kevwestbeats banning you for having two log-on id coming from the same ip address? remember? i do!!! if MR44KHZ and myself were the same individual... dont you think kevwestbeats would banned me/us too? think about it... that is how stupid you sound... damn near crazy... i think you need some kind of professional help/medication for your issuses... you are one sick individual...

Danoc... take some time off from posting in the forums and read some of your previous posts... or have a friend of yours read them... i will bet they would come to the same conclusion... you are insecure and the king of contradiction... have your friends read your post... and if they do not agree with the fact that you are insecure and the king of contradiction... i understand why they are your friends... they are as crazy as you are!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

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i bet before you life is over... you will be sporting one of these... attire for individuals with mental problems...

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hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

HAHA Danoc is one big nutcase hahaha! But I'm not going to argue with that clown anymore,me and you proved our points. Dude is a lier and a clown. It's right there in black and white what he said i feel sorry for the brother i'ma let him make it from now on because i think he just can't help it. From now on when i see his post i'ma shake my head and keep it moving. I mean he actually thinks me and you are the same people,he don't get the concept that maybe most people thinks he is a nutcase but don't want to start trouble,we're just saying what most people think. But where i'm from you let a clown be a clown.
 
HAHA Danoc is one big nutcase hahaha! But I'm not going to argue with that clown anymore,me and you proved our points. Dude is a lier and a clown. It's right there in black and white what he said i feel sorry for the brother i'ma let him make it from now on because i think he just can't help it. From now on when i see his post i'ma shake my head and keep it moving. I mean he actually thinks me and you are the same people,he don't get the concept that maybe most people thinks he is a nutcase but don't want to start trouble,we're just saying what most people think. But where i'm from you let a clown be a clown.


Yeah ok, that's what I thought, again no music, no videos and you call me a liar and nutcase when StillFunkin and Mr44Khz are THE SAME PEOPLE!!! All you can do is put up pics and do the typical obvious non sense that cowards do.

He calls me crazy yet agrees with himself SMH . I will put you both on ignore now because I have said what I needed to say.

And Still I go in peace.

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So where were we..... oh, Reason is worth the get, the price is right, and it is a sweet recording program that's being improved always.
 
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Kong is really good for making drum sounds. However I find Reason can be awkward to use when recording guitars and real instruments. You have to use another DAW.

The stock sounds in Kong are not that great. You have to find your own or use custom sounds. I personally use the 700mb 96khz 24bit Lex Luger drum set from Tradebit.

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Kong is really good for making drum sounds. However I find Reason can be awkward to use when recording guitars and real instruments. You have to use another DAW.

The stock sounds in Kong are not that great. You have to find your own or use custom sounds. I personally use the 700mb 96khz 24bit Lex Luger drum set from Tradebit.

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I hear you. But when you say it's awkward to record guitars and real instruments into Reason, explain what you mean? Because I find it butta to record in Reason, the easiest and smoothest thing to do. I play the Motif XS right into it from my interface and it's always on time, unless I slip a finger when playing then I gotta do it over, but all in all it's a recording beast. Love Reason and it's recording. I have Protools and to do live or record from a Module into Reason I don't need Protools to do that. Only time I get sounds from Protools if I wanna wonder off and get some sound from Omnisphere, or Nexus 2 or Titan, and make a melody in PT then send it over to Reason and lay the drums and just merk!!! Reason is primary over Protools in my situation. Because of the SSL mixer, Time stretch and Stability of it.

on the drums in Kong, I kinda agree with you. But what I have found is STACKING THOSE DRUMS. Many tend to say they are wack but if you stack them you can get something amazing. I have my own drums from over the years that I have tailored Using the SSL Board and making them noise free HD 24bit quality. Frequencies are cut and they are pristine clear, ever dirty drums sound clean lol If you know what I mean. I personally I don't want another man's drums got my own.
 
Definitely worth it. Unless there are some effects in Reason I don't know about, the only complaint I have about Reason is the fact that I don't believe it has or has ever had what I call real-time EQ effects.

You are still limited I believe to what Propellerhead puts out. Meaning you can't use third party plug in EQ effects. Some of which show you in real-time what's happening.

It's really the only thing I have never liked about Reason. It's not a big deal, but when you want to be spot on and see what's happening, I think it can be very useful. But certainly not necessary.

Reason is my main DAW for everything when I'm creating. However, when I really want to hear and see what's happening in a mix?

I render whatever midi files I want look at in real time as audio and then import them into Logic. Pull up their standard EQ plug in and it tells me exacting what happening in real time.

If they would add this to Reason, I would never have to use anything else.

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Just afer I wrote this I thought about REWIRE! duh! Probably wasn't thinking about that b/c I haven't had much success with it in the past Rewiring Pro Tools and Reason. Always had syncing issues! But I think if I can do this I maybe able to have access to those real-time plug in's I wish Reason had w/out too switching from one program to the other.

The problem was probably me at the time because I didn't know enough about Rewiring! But I will try this Rewiring asap!
 
You can also Render to disk with folders from Reason and drag and drop each track into Protools and use all the VSTs you want. Also one can use Soundflower and Jack, you can use this to record from a stand alone synth on your desk top and record into Reason.

Good write up.

Definitely worth it. Unless there are some effects in Reason I don't know about, the only complaint I have about Reason is the fact that I don't believe it has or has ever had what I call real-time EQ effects.

You are still limited I believe to what Propellerhead puts out. Meaning you can't use third party plug in EQ effects. Some of which show you in real-time what's happening.

It's really the only thing I have never liked about Reason. It's not a big deal, but when you want to be spot on and see what's happening, I think it can be very useful. But certainly not necessary.

Reason is my main DAW for everything when I'm creating. However, when I really want to hear and see what's happening in a mix?

I render whatever midi files I want look at in real time as audio and then import them into Logic. Pull up their standard EQ plug in and it tells me exacting what happening in real time.

If they would add this to Reason, I would never have to use anything else.

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Just afer I wrote this I thought about REWIRE! duh! Probably wasn't thinking about that b/c I haven't had much success with it in the past Rewiring Pro Tools and Reason. Always had syncing issues! But I think if I can do this I maybe able to have access to those real-time plug in's I wish Reason had w/out too switching from one program to the other.

The problem was probably me at the time because I didn't know enough about Rewiring! But I will try this Rewiring asap!
 
Thanks man. I know what you mean. I'm reading up on 'bouncing' tracks now in Reason 6. Now that I'm finally getting a chance to read up on it, I think Reason 6 may have the most options when it comes to 'bouncing' I personally have seen?

It's funny. 5 or 6 years ago I had so much trouble importing files from one DAW to the next. It was really a problem and the only solution (for me anyway) was Pro Tools as it keeps everything nice and neat in folders. I know FL is good for that too and I guess Reason is right up there with the best of them now.

But I'm working on it. I just created a helluva template in Reason too. What I really want to do is still use Reason's sequencer to record my parts and have the ability to use Logic's effects for monitoring more than anything. But at the end of the day, I think I will probably end up still creating everything in Reason and bouncing those tracks as audio or midi to mix in Logic. A lot of what I have read the last couple of days has Reason being the 'slave' but I kind of want Logic to be the 'slave'??

I'll figure it out.
 
Peace,
I have been using bouncing since Reason 3 I did it track by track and it was fast I had no complaints yet I still wrote PH for a better way and they did it to my surprise. I do my mixing in Reason, not even in Protools. Reason when you do the bouncing it even makes up a folder for you, you don't have to do nothing but bounce them to your desk top and a folder will pop up. Bouncing is simplistic, here's a video I put up from PH, it explains it so easy to us.



Thanks man. I know what you mean. I'm reading up on 'bouncing' tracks now in Reason 6. Now that I'm finally getting a chance to read up on it, I think Reason 6 may have the most options when it comes to 'bouncing' I personally have seen?

It's funny. 5 or 6 years ago I had so much trouble importing files from one DAW to the next. It was really a problem and the only solution (for me anyway) was Pro Tools as it keeps everything nice and neat in folders. I know FL is good for that too and I guess Reason is right up there with the best of them now.

But I'm working on it. I just created a helluva template in Reason too. What I really want to do is still use Reason's sequencer to record my parts and have the ability to use Logic's effects for monitoring more than anything. But at the end of the day, I think I will probably end up still creating everything in Reason and bouncing those tracks as audio or midi to mix in Logic. A lot of what I have read the last couple of days has Reason being the 'slave' but I kind of want Logic to be the 'slave'??

I'll figure it out.
 
Appreciate that. I exported a couple songs and put a little mix on them in Logic. Gonna take a little work but shouldn't take too long to get use to it. I could do it all in Reason now probably. There is just something about seeing that EQ move in real-time that I like, as well as listening to what's happening... I dunno

And I noticed there is definitely a difference in sound once you 'bounce' the tracks to audio. This is probably a big step I haven't been doing all these years! Seems like it sounded much 'warmer' and definitely louder just by 'normalizing' it alone...

Peace...
 
Wow. So much tension within this thread.lol.

Im new to the production scene, as well as to this forum. Im about four months into making music (super noob.lol) and im loving it. I am currently using Reason. I like how comfortable it makes me feel and how educational the visuals are for me, especially through experimentation. Its taught me so many things that I thought I would never learn. I dont have the experience or the right to even speak upon whats better or what can and cant do. But I just wanted everyone to know why I like Reason so far, and plan to stick with it. I know im definitely going to experiment with different DAWs and VSTs and more than likely use them. But perhaps thats okay, because its good to well rounded. In the end, its about making good music. Too many people fall into the technicalities of things and forget that. Stick to what feels good when developing music, whether its one DAW or multiple, and make music that moves people. Thats my two cents from a noob, and Eff you if you wanna post a dickhead response. :o
 
Good luck with Reason. It's a great program. Especially the newest version that allows you to work with audio. There comes a time however, when you start learning other things and realize that you can't do everything you want to do in one program.

Or you realize how much more you can do. But I agree that it's all personal preference and at the end of the day you want to make the best music you can. Doesn't matter how you get there.

What happened for me was I saw a video about EQ using Pro Tools. I don't have Pro Tools but I have used it in the past. I have Logic which to me is pretty much the same program. But anyway I saw a video about EQ and it changed the way I think about using EQ.

Reason I believe doesn't have the same type of EQ and that is what caused me to want to use Rewire and start using both at the same time or FINALLY :) learn how to convert my MIDI files to audio so I could mix in a different environment.

I did this last night and it opened up a whole new world of creativity for me. I luv when that happens!

That's what I get for trying to learn too many things at one time. I totally forgot how important it was to convert MIDI to Audio.

It's kind of embarrassing to admit that but hopefully I can help someone like yourself who is just starting out not go down the same path I did.

Peace..
 
Wow. So much tension within this thread.lol.

Im new to the production scene, as well as to this forum. Im about four months into making music (super noob.lol) and im loving it. I am currently using Reason. I like how comfortable it makes me feel and how educational the visuals are for me, especially through experimentation. Its taught me so many things that I thought I would never learn. I dont have the experience or the right to even speak upon whats better or what can and cant do. But I just wanted everyone to know why I like Reason so far, and plan to stick with it. I know im definitely going to experiment with different DAWs and VSTs and more than likely use them. But perhaps thats okay, because its good to well rounded. In the end, its about making good music. Too many people fall into the technicalities of things and forget that. Stick to what feels good when developing music, whether its one DAW or multiple, and make music that moves people. Thats my two cents from a noob, and Eff you if you wanna post a dickhead response. :o


Whatever you plan to use HAVE FUN AND KEEP LEARNING!!! But Reason is a worth buying program.

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Cool, very inspirational. You find it good to EQ in Logic I find it good to EQ in Reason on it's SSL9000k mixer. Two different paths reaching for the same goal, and that is to please the customer, which is wonderful!!! :)

Good luck with Reason. It's a great program. Especially the newest version that allows you to work with audio. There comes a time however, when you start learning other things and realize that you can't do everything you want to do in one program.

Or you realize how much more you can do. But I agree that it's all personal preference and at the end of the day you want to make the best music you can. Doesn't matter how you get there.

What happened for me was I saw a video about EQ using Pro Tools. I don't have Pro Tools but I have used it in the past. I have Logic which to me is pretty much the same program. But anyway I saw a video about EQ and it changed the way I think about using EQ.

Reason I believe doesn't have the same type of EQ and that is what caused me to want to use Rewire and start using both at the same time or FINALLY :) learn how to convert my MIDI files to audio so I could mix in a different environment.

I did this last night and it opened up a whole new world of creativity for me. I luv when that happens!

That's what I get for trying to learn too many things at one time. I totally forgot how important it was to convert MIDI to Audio.

It's kind of embarrassing to admit that but hopefully I can help someone like yourself who is just starting out not go down the same path I did.

Peace..
 
The newer verison Reason 6.5 and Essential 1.5 will have 3rd party plugin and more to come. It is nice like the newer verison check it out!
 
Really? I did not know that.. Wow. That really changes the game for Reason. To me it's one of the few things that has always held it's full potential back a little.

Thanks for that info.
 
I use Ableton with Reason 5 rewired and if Reason is your main/only music making program then I'd say yes you should upgrade. I love Reason and the only reason why I use it rewired is because of Ableton's awesome ability to manipulate audio files quickly.

But I love Reason, it was the first music software I ever purchased and will continue to use it in everything I do. People that knock Reason don't know how to use it. And despite what the haters say, it doesn't need vst's, if a person would take the time to learn it they'd find out that Reason can replicate what 90-95% of all vst's can do.
 
Also they lower the price of the Reason Essential its $99. this the little bro the Reason 6. It has everything that reason 6 has just the price is different. I just purchase Essential and waiting for its arrival. If you want you can go to Sweetwater.com and ask for Paul Bates. This is the only place I know where you don't pay 130 for it. Plus they have a lot room to go further. I believe they are trying to work with Native Instruments on a plugins and other major plugins company. They are also looking for independent company who are just starting out.
 
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