Why are Mac computers so popular among producers?

[MimikOctopus]

The whole virus thing is kind of bogus. It's not that Macs don't get them, it's that the user base is too small to make it worthwhile. Usually a virus is made to infect as many machines as possible and cause chaos on large company networks etc. So writing one for the Apple machines is just not as enticing. There have been viruses before though but it is more difficult to create them.

 

[logic7]

deranged...


This is how I screw up your analogy.



A Mac is like a Cadillac Cimarron.

It looks like luxury on the outside and is sold as such. YOu get leather interior, V6 engine, Premium Sound, and that Cadillac grille and emblem that says "This is high end"...








... but underneath it all it's the same Chevy Cavalier you could have had for much cheaper with the same engine and all, but without the Caddy badge.

 

[jlgrimes11]

Watching these videos it's incredible how fast things have changed man. I feel like it's yesterday when I realized my 20 GB hard drive is full on Win95. And now I'm rocking terabytes.

I remember when I was a kid we got a Commodore 64 for Christmas (around like 1984).

It didn't even have a hard drive.

It was called 64 because of the 64 Kilobytes of Ram it had.

All we had were the 5 inch Floppy disk drives (the big ones that were actually Floppy).

There was no mouse.

It's main screen was a blue command prompt (we had it hooked up to our TV screen), were to load Video Games (all we ever did the computer), you had to type something like LOAD "Name of Game", 8, 1 press enter.

The Game would take at least 1-minute to from there to load up. Some games were notoriously slow.

 

[California]

The whole virus thing is kind of bogus. It's not that Macs don't get them, it's that the user base is too small to make it worthwhile. Usually a virus is made to infect as many machines as possible and cause chaos on large company networks etc. So writing one for the Apple machines is just not as enticing. There have been viruses before though but it is more difficult to create them.

Actually that's a false myth. Surely atleast of the thousand pc users with virus writting abilities wouldve made a virus just to shut the mac people up. But they don't because it's physically impossible. Macs have been very popular and thus would be worth while. That's beside the fact that the richer the targets get and the richer the companies are the higher the limelyhood that they are using macs vs the average mac to pc ratio. Also even if it was true that the reason they don't get viruses is that , well they still don't get them ( but the real reason they don't , lies in the way the OS is programmed )

 

[MimikOctopus]

Actually that's a false myth. Surely atleast of the thousand pc users with virus writting abilities wouldve made a virus just to shut the mac people up. But they don't because it's physically impossible. Macs have been very popular and thus would be worth while. That's beside the fact that the richer the targets get and the richer the companies are the higher the limelyhood that they are using macs vs the average mac to pc ratio. Also even if it was true that the reason they don't get viruses is that , well they still don't get them ( but the real reason they don't , lies in the way the OS is programmed )

Did you just say that because companies have more money, they will buy more Apple machines simply because they are more expensive? Do you actually know anything about Apple's market share in the computer world? It's less than 5%. That's right, less than 5% of ALL computers in the world are Apple machines. And I'm sure in the corporate world that number is smaller. Microsoft has over 90% of the user base.

But since you're the expert, tell me WHY it is physically impossible to write a virus for an Apple machine? Quick search brings up
http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/Macintosh_Viruses_and_Mac_Virus_Resources.htm
There is more than one link to information on viruses that have occurred on Apple systems.

Tell me that's all bull****, and explain it to me because I've been working with these machines for over 25 years so you don't need to dumb it down one bit for me to understand. I want to know what makes it "physically impossible" for malicious attacks to occur on an Apple manufactured machine running it's own operating system. Why are there Mac versions of anti-virus software? Rarity does not equate immunity.

Seriously, Apple has fantastic MARKETING. I had to format my hard drive and reinstall the OS the 2nd of owning the machine because the techs decided it was far faster than mucking through the system for hours to figure out what was actually wrong. But they "just work". In fact it's so good that you're on here claiming them to be 100% bulletproof, when the answer is more that nobody cares to do it. I'll admit it's harder, but it can and does happen.

 

[musicbird]

Actually that's a false myth. Surely atleast of the thousand pc users with virus writting abilities wouldve made a virus just to shut the mac people up. But they don't because it's physically impossible. Macs have been very popular and thus would be worth while. That's beside the fact that the richer the targets get and the richer the companies are the higher the limelyhood that they are using macs vs the average mac to pc ratio. Also even if it was true that the reason they don't get viruses is that , well they still don't get them ( but the real reason they don't , lies in the way the OS is programmed )

WOW......just wow
perfect example how apple brainwashes people. it ain't really hard. some basic psychology...
http://hiphopo.posterous.com/how-apple-brainwashes-us-just-amazing-neuroli

Apple is like some kind of religion people live by...

 

[California]

there are no viruses for the mac due to the fact that that the Mac simply doesnt work that way. There have been a few scares with some trojans etc, but a virus is physically impossible. Its not technically a virus if it cant recreate itself without the owner actually letting it by manually giving it all the permissions. Do you understand that ?
there is no malicious program that can install itself secretly, change its name adn replicate all with the owner never doing anything. The kernel simply doenst allow it .

 

[Salem Beats]

there are no viruses for the mac due to the fact that that the Mac simply doesnt work that way. There have been a few scares with some trojans etc, but a virus is physically impossible. Its not technically a virus if it cant recreate itself without the owner actually letting it by manually giving it all the permissions. Do you understand that ?
there is no malicious program that can install itself secretly, change its name adn replicate all with the owner never doing anything. The kernel simply doenst allow it .

How do you explain the viruses that have infected the Mac, then?

Seriously, does everyone on this site make drastic claims without knowing what they're talking about, and invent make-believe information?

 

[MimikOctopus]

there are no viruses for the mac due to the fact that that the Mac simply doesnt work that way. There have been a few scares with some trojans etc, but a virus is physically impossible. Its not technically a virus if it cant recreate itself without the owner actually letting it by manually giving it all the permissions. Do you understand that ?
there is no malicious program that can install itself secretly, change its name adn replicate all with the owner never doing anything. The kernel simply doenst allow it .

Again, simply stating the kernel does not allow it is not enough. Your argument contains 0 fact, and nothing to back it up. You keep making statements matter of fact, but I don't think you understand how it works, otherwise you would have no problem explaining to me WHY, and you would be able to dispute EVERY claim in EVERY article on the internet that even mentions Apple computers and viruses. Let alone the fact that there are anti-virus programs available for OSX. If it were truly impossible I don't think Apple would license those products or allow them as it would in fact be FRAUD (consumer watchdog groups would have figured this out a long time ago by the way).

Are ALL of these articles, apparently written by people who can actually describe the technology and use sources to back up their statements wrong? Or are you talking out of your ass because someone told you this and you just parrot it back indefinitely to sounds like you has teh smartz?

Here's a little bit of information from a study by IBM. "It is a long believe that, Linux and Apple OS X is much more secure than Windows based OS, where as reports published by IBM suggest opposite as IBM X-Force have found Windows Server 2008 more secure than OS X or any linux platform." Granted the study is based on disclosed vulnerabilities, but it shows once again that Apple marketing is better than Microsoft's

 

[California]

The whole virus thing is kind of bogus. It's not that Macs don't get them, it's that the user base is too small to make it worthwhile. .

ill end it with this post because even if you are right, and i am wrong, i still win. let me explain. I stated that Macs win simply do to the fact that they dont get viruses (the other >'s are irrelevant at this point) and proceeded to state that the reason for this lies in the way the OS works. You replied that the reasons Macs dont have viruses is "the user base is too small to make it worthwhile", but even if you are right (which you arent) , Macs STILL dont get viruses, whether its by your false explanation or not. So thanks for explaining (albeit in a false way) that Macs are superior (since you explained why macs dont have viruses)

 

[Inverted314]

People don't make viruses for Mac because almost no large businesses use them and a serious hacker wants access to valuable information. Most successful businesses use junky dells optimized for whatever task.

Its easy for any music computer to not get viruses... dont hook internet to it.

 

[logic7]

http://www.securemac.com/applescript-tht-trojan-horse.php

There's an OSX trojan.

http://www.osnews.com/story/20827/New_Mac_OS_X_Trojan_Found_in_Pirated_iWork_09

... and another one...

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/041709-first-mac-os-x-botnet.html

... and a botnet that utilizes only Macs...

http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/12/03/rspluge.trojan.manifests/

... and a trojan that has several variants...



You Mac users who believe that you have nothing to worry about are delusional idiots.

 

[Salem Beats]

ill end it with this post because even if you are right, and i am wrong, i still win. let me explain. I stated that Macs win simply do to the fact that they dont get viruses (the other >'s are irrelevant at this point) and proceeded to state that the reason for this lies in the way the OS works. You replied that the reasons Macs dont have viruses is "the user base is too small to make it worthwhile", but even if you are right (which you arent) , Macs STILL dont get viruses, whether its by your false explanation or not. So thanks for explaining (albeit in a false way) that Macs are superior (since you explained why macs dont have viruses)

Its amazing how snotty mac users are:

"if i am wrong, i still win"

Wow. Gotta love how you're concerned with "winning" rather than generating useful and true information.

Macs are the "new kid on the block" when it comes to x86-based processors, and their OS implementation is years behind and actually inferior to the optimal Windows and Linux setups, who are more mature on this development platform.

Viruses exist for Macs, but there are fewer varieties. Why?

Targeting Windows is like targeting the powerful World Trade Center with airplanes. Targeting a Mac is like aiming those same airplanes at some kid's garage.

Honestly, a virus written for Mac computers isn't going to bring down offices, businesses, or schools, nor will it convince millions of grandmas to buy a fake "anti virus" to solve their problems (allowing the virus maker to profit from the spread of the virus).

Mac's OS has vulnerabilities. Don't believe me? How many times do you think the iPod Touch and iPhone have been repeatedly "jailbroken" by cracking groups despite Apple's best efforts to prevent this? Their computer OS is not any safer. If nobody points a gun at your head, that doesn't make you bulletproof.

Of course, this entire argument is a moot point because I have been running PCs for about 6 years without contact with a single computer virus -- guess I'm just not stupid enough to download a media player from a porn site. Mac computers really are for the dumb people, and dumb people really do pay a price for their stupidity -- a $600 "Apple Logo" tax. I'm glad all of you Mac users have finally saved up enough money to experience the same digital world that the intelligent people would've discovered $600 earlier

 

[California]

http://www.securemac.com/applescript-tht-trojan-horse.php

There's an OSX trojan.

http://www.osnews.com/story/20827/New_Mac_OS_X_Trojan_Found_in_Pirated_iWork_09

... and another one...

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/041709-first-mac-os-x-botnet.html

... and a botnet that utilizes only Macs...

http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/12/03/rspluge.trojan.manifests/

... and a trojan that has several variants...



You Mac users who believe that you have nothing to worry about are delusional idiots.

too bad we are discussing viruses and not trojans , because if it wasnt for that fact, you wouldve made a marginally good point (marginal because you would have show 3 "viruses" that mac users should worry about).

 

[California]

Its amazing how snotty mac users are:

"if i am wrong, i still win"

Wow. Gotta love how you're concerned with "winning" rather than generating useful and true information.

Macs are the "new kid on the block" when it comes to x86-based processors, and their OS implementation is years behind and actually inferior to the optimal Windows and Linux setups, who are more mature on this development platform.

Viruses exist for Macs, but there are fewer varieties. Why?

Targeting Windows is like targeting the powerful World Trade Center with airplanes. Targeting a Mac is like aiming those same airplanes at some kid's garage.

Honestly, a virus written for Mac computers isn't going to bring down offices, businesses, or schools, nor will it convince millions of grandmas to buy a fake "anti virus" to solve their problems (allowing the virus maker to profit from the spread of the virus).

Mac's OS has vulnerabilities. Don't believe me? How many times do you think the iPod Touch and iPhone have been repeatedly "jailbroken" by cracking groups despite Apple's best efforts to prevent this? Their computer OS is not any safer. If nobody points a gun at your head, that doesn't make you bulletproof.

Of course, this entire argument is a moot point because I have been running PCs for about 6 years without contact with a single computer virus -- guess I'm just not stupid enough to download a media player from a porn site. Mac computers really are for the dumb people, and dumb people really do pay a price for their stupidity -- a $600 "Apple Logo" tax. I'm glad all of you Mac users have finally saved up enough money to experience the same digital world that the intelligent people would've discovered $600 earlier

thanks for reiterating one of many reasons macs dont get viruses. Also, the point is in fact not moot at all because the fact that YOU havent gotten a virus on your pc's doesnt negate the trillions of viruses that other pc users have had , but thanks for pointing out again that Macs dont get viruses .

 

[Salem Beats]

too bad we are discussing viruses and not trojans , because if it wasnt for that fact, you wouldve made a marginally good point (marginal because you would have show 3 "viruses" that mac users should worry about).

SMH @ you.

A trojan is a virus.

Let me set up an analogy:

Trojan is to Virus as Square is to Rectangle.

Trojan is to Virus as Human is to Mammal.

See... a trojan is a SPECIFIC TYPE of virus. Stop making yourself look like a fuc*ing idiot.

 

[Inverted314]

Mac computers really are for the dumb people, and dumb people really do pay a price for their stupidity -- a $600 "Apple Logo" tax. I'm glad all of you Mac users have finally saved up enough money to experience the same digital world that the intelligent people would've discovered $600 earlier

Your whole argument was valid and understandable until you threw away your credibility with such a ridiculous remark?

If a college professor has a Macbook he is no longer a valid, intelligent teacher solely because of the computer he owns? lmao.

Likewise, your imposing the inverse is that all PC users are automatically intelligent, and in relations if you own a PC you are smart? Where do you build such blasphemous conclusions?

With your logic all it takes to be smart is by owning a certain branded product. Going by your theory, sounds like the PC users are the "dumb ones" but those are your words; not mine.

To me they are just computers.

 

[Salem Beats]

thanks for reiterating one of many reasons macs dont get viruses. Also, the point is in fact not moot at all because the fact that YOU havent gotten a virus on your pc's doesnt negate the trillions of viruses that other pc users have had , but thanks for pointing out again that Macs dont get viruses .

Makes it moot as far as I care. I'm intelligent enough to know the kinds of things that spread viruses.

Like I said, Apple computer = $600 "stupid person" tax.

"It just works" -- for $600 more than the equivalent WINDOWS PC with the exact same hypothetical, benchmarked, and real-world-measured performance).

If Mac computers were the same price as WINDOWS PCs, then you could justify workflow preferences. Newsflash -- Mac computers are PCs now, but with a different OS

 

[Salem Beats]

Your whole argument was valid and understandable until you threw away your credibility with such a ridiculous remark?

If a college professor has a Macbook he is no longer a valid, intelligent teacher solely because of the computer he owns? lmao.

Likewise, your imposing the inverse is that all PC users are automatically intelligent, and in relations if you own a PC you are smart? Where do you build such blasphemous conclusions?

With your logic all it takes to be smart is by owning a certain branded product. Going by your theory, sounds like the PC users are the "dumb ones" but those are your words; not mine.

To me they are just computers.

No offense, just trying to shut down the trolling "California" idiot who thinks he knows what he's talking about while he spreads all kinds of falsehoods. When I say "Intelligent", I'm trying to imply "Computer Smarts". A "Computer-Smart" person doesn't need a Mac, becuase a Windows-based PC gives him the same hardware a Mac would for cheaper. Bare-bones XP runs just as quickly as bare-bones OSX -- I want to make sure this is understood so it does not become a point of argument. I've proven this many times in the past and I grow tired of it, so look it up yourself if you think I'm wrong.

 

[California]

Your whole argument was valid and understandable until you threw away your credibility with such a ridiculous remark?

If a college professor has a Macbook he is no longer a valid, intelligent teacher solely because of the computer he owns? lmao.

Likewise, your imposing the inverse is that all PC users are automatically intelligent, and in relations if you own a PC you are smart? Where do you build such blasphemous conclusions?

With your logic all it takes to be smart is by owning a certain branded product. Going by your theory, sounds like the PC users are the "dumb ones" but those are your words; not mine.

To me they are just computers.

if anything, i GUARANTEE you that the ratio of Mac to PC users changes atleast slightly in the "smarter" demo in favor of Mac . even the idea of someone like a TV writer entering a starbucks with a Mac laptop is a cliche ,and you have to be smart to be a writer obviously . Now insert "writer" with another profession where being intelligent is required .