jahrome
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moyphee said:Actually the MV has 16 instruments real multisampled patches and 32 banks(512 pads) of phrases. In addition to the MV having 6 banks not for . Link that with Roland nondestructive sample structure and 5000 is playing catch up. The 5000 is no winner in this respect and the MV has the memory to these features useful.
Remember the 5000 sampler is restricted to phrases. the MV can instruments from phrases.
The MV can use Play+Rec without freezing.
Check the latest bug found on your 5000. I'm sure you're aware of his.
In every patch the MV copy as many times as the user wants, give the samples individual setting including start/end/loop points , env.adsr , loop types etc. and never use additional memory.
BTW - the MV automatically sets upo the assignment of imported patches and the user has the ability to send it wher they if they choose. It's called flexibility and control.
Then you have to remeber that MPC is hands down the best hardware MIDI sequencers ever made. MIDI your Fantom XR, Motif ES rack, M3 rack, and your Moog Voyager (or your favorite MIDI gear) and you have your ultimate music production set-up. 64 channels of MIDI outs.
64 channels is indeed pure show and I have yet to anyone make use of it. Most musicians don't even use 16 channels let alone 64. If you have example i'd like to see it.
Yes, I can see how having 64 channels of external MIDI control is pure show when the MV doesn't have it. In fact, this has been an MPC feature for over 20 years. You want to talk pure show? 512 pads and sounds isn't pue show? I have yet to here anyone make use of those. Are you now excepting my challenge to show some music because I am ready. Who do you want to host this battle?
The MPC 5000 allows you to assign (not copy) the same sample to every pad. You can non-destructively change volume, pitch, LFO, ADSR filter and amp envelopes, etc. You can even non-destructively change the samples start time by velocity. None of this uses additional memory.
The MPC 5000 has 4 banks which holds 512 samples. Isn't that enough or do I need Akai to add two more banks with 128 more sounds? My MPC 5000 isn't restricted to phrases. Do you want to hear my latest example? I was going to wait but will let you listen to it if you like.
As far as bugs, I created the threads. I know exactly what you get when you buy an MPC 5K. There are bugs in its current OS. You are fully aware of my threads/posts. But not every bug is encountered by everyone. In fact, most of those bugs posted on the site I haven't encountered. This is not an excuse. Akai has corrected the problems and will release an OS update. This is no different than what Roland has done. But I don't believe (at least I hope) Akai doesn't release a MPC 5500 with a color screen and give it a new OS exclusive to that unit like Roland did with the MV-8800 and MV-8000. And besides, your MV has its own problems to address. It still has at least one major bug and Roland is going to discontinue it. It suks to be an MV-8800 user if you expect anything more from Roland.
And my last point...you say most musicians don't use more than 16 channels? You are obviously not a musician and you certainly don't know any musicians. Even my young daughter quickly uses up 16 channels.
Sorry my man....but the case you are building for the MV is falling apart. This is what you get for taking on a product that is being discontinued. That is why I tell people to wait until Namm before they buy one. The prices of MVs will drop severl hundred dollars.
youngjboy said:Why dont yall have a beat battle and settle it, or at least post some music or videos?
I called him out numerous times...he keeps ducking me. I am ready to knuckle up anytime....with music that is...
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