jahrome said:
Actually, the Fantom G is not doing that well. Chicken Systems Rep commented in the MPC Forum that several other workstations rank ahead of the the Fantom G.
Chicken Systems Reps can say whatever he or she wants, but they ain't Roland.
I've heard from Roland reps themselves that they were glad their Fantoms and MVs are selling better than before. This is no joke or lie, in fact, go ahead and ask the Roland reps yourself.
All things point to Akai remaining the leader of sampling drum machines/sequencers. Outside of these forums...professionals do not use MVs. This is a fact. They will always prefer MPCs. I don't care which model you choose but an MPC is essential.
You're wrong and it's not essential at all. In fact, look at how many pros use the Miko and Neko and the huge amount of new producers that strictly use software with a midi controller. In fact, you should look at Akai's line-up, it makes perfect sense they've come with a midi controller for software now.
There is no comfidence in the MV line. They closed the offices of the people that championed the MV in the first place. It is not like they were paying them much money anyway. The fact remains is that the price of the MV has dropped almost $1000. Roland is offering big rebates so they can help out the retailers..in an effort to prevent them from shipping them back to Roland. All the MVs expansions boards are discontinued/or being discontinued clearly thrusting in into the pro-sumer market. MVs are dirt cheap today.
What is up with you... The MV did
not have a price drop of 1000$ at all.
It still costs $1,995.99 at Guitar Center and you'll have to pay exactly that. Register the product and you'll receive $300 from Roland.
The MSRP of the MV, $2,899.00 has never been the actual price except for the very first year or so. It's silly to compare the current price to the MSRP.
The MPC 5000 has an MSRP of:
$3,499.00 , and already it's being sold for $2,299.00 - $2,599.99. Sometimes even less.
It means two things. One the product never was worth $3,499.00 to customers and two sales are still going down not recovering from the very bad launch.
What you fail to understand is that Akai has locked down this niche market. The MPC 5000 with OS 1 was already light years ahead of the MV. OS2 took this even further. You know for a fact that the MV can't come close to the MPC 5000. I don't know how well the MPC 5000 is selling. But as an actual user, I can tell you first hand that is the best MPC ever created..when it comes to power and workflow.
This is a funny statement in a world where Akai has been losing ground for quite a few years already.
Best MPC.... you're wrong there as well. It's by far not the best MPC ever made.
Your claims about professionals not using the MV is wrong, you might call yourself a pro... but that doesn't mean the whole world uses MPCs. You don't know half how many people use software these days, let alone smaller samplers and drummachines.
The people that do use the bigger hardware samplers, I know for a fact that people dig the MV more than the MPC5000. I own multiple studios, I've got customers from all over the world basically and they do not look at the MPC5000 as something better. They see it's a sampler just like the MV is. In fact, many people prefer the oldest line of MPCs, not the 1000, 2500 or 5000.
You can't fool me with your promo BS about how great the MPC5k OS 1.0 was, because in reality it has been terrible for way too long. Swarms of bugs, damn!
The MV is actually doing quite well just like the Fantom G. However the same can't be said for the 5000. The street price is down to a measly $1800 brand new.