as20gp
Ghoul Gang
usually till the next song comes out lol
usually till the next song comes out lol
Wedges2
AlphaMelee
lol that's a good music video. How does Katt Williams just end up in there?
ProducerJC
IndieHost
Normally, I'd write and original post based on what I know. In this case, for the sake of saving time, I'll just refer you guys to this definition provided by Wikipedia. J Troup is partially right about the the job of an Executive Producer; however, there's much more to it than offering insight.
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[F_or_DEAF]
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yeah.
if you ain't dropping CLASSICS, people gonna forget about your other shit OVERNIGHT - at the LATEST.
ARTISTS need to be dropping new songs / records WEEKLY...if not DAILY...albums / projects / mixtapes / compilations - MONTHLY - MUSIC VIDEOS monthly (at the LATEST)
cant' do it?
oh, OKAY
on to the next one
NOBODY HAS TIME TO WAIT FOR YOU TO GET YOUR SHIT "RIGHT"...GIVE EM "QUALITY" in between QUANTITY...some artists don't get that for whatever reason - but you have GOT TO BE IN THE STUDIO WEEKLY...if not weekly, then EVERY OTHER DAY - PREFERABLY DAILY.
the attention span and consumption rates these days are OFF THE FUKCIN' CHARTS - and like i said, some artists still don't understand what time it is - they're stuck in the era PRE wshh...PRE soundclould...PRE twitter - PRE youtube - whatever - trying to lace artists is a lost cause...soak up game YOURSELF and apply it - WHAT? YOURSELF
j.troup
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I don't agree with the wikipedia definition, and I don't consider wikipedia as a definitive expert on anything.
And as with any organization, roles and their specific responsibilities vary, and are defined by the needs and structure of the organization.
But for the sake of the discussion, I'm referring to the "project director" portion of the Wikipedia Definition.
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[F_or_DEAF]
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then who's definition do you agree with?
j.troup
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The real world definition. The one that's in practice every day.
And the one that's in place in my organization.
CEO's don't all have the exact same job description at every company.
[F_or_DEAF]
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don't have a link, huh? cool, sir...very, very cool
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
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One thing I've learned that the internet has ruined, is now everyone can google or wiki something and think that's the answer.
Exec Producers sometimes don't do nothing but launder the dope money, sometimes they do everything all the way down to driving the tour bus, sometimes they just give the room a pep talk and say "I trust you to have an album on my desk in 6 months", sometimes they sit thru every session, cowrite, coproduce, and sit over the engineering and mastering as well as arranging of song order to the finished project. Sometimes it's their money, sometimes the label's money, sometimes they work out the budget, sometimes they look over the budget and approve it after an accountant works out the details. Depends on the project and people involved.
There is no set job in music like most of the real world. Sure, an auto mechanic "works on vehicles", but some do body work, others do not. Some just rotate tires and put new brakes on your car. Some can fix cracked windsheilds when that's not even part of their job description. Some just point at others and tell them what to do and overlook the work without touching the car once. Apply that to any "job description'.
j.troup
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[F_or_DEAF]
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yup...make your own definition.
if you say you're an executive producer - then you are - it doesn't have to be definable...case closed -
901_Rice_Street
Rice AKA Clyde Drexler
The streets outside of the south just needs the same feel but in a different way. That's how we been maintaining will continue to. People call it trap.......it ain't no different than what Lil Jon brought to the light....that came from the underground and not him. That's says a lot right? What are yall doing in the underground? Because it is always the birth of wave moving in even in 2012. You wouldn't know half of the subgenre names people make up for popular music that actually came from the street. What is it now? People outside of the streets creating yesterdays street music and enhancing it. Yall wouldn't like real street music deep in the underground.....because it's not "marketable" compare to the imitated stuff that gets a name....(trap, crunk, snap, bounce ect). And that's the loop right......because now dudes in the street have noone to motivate them except the imitated sounds...so they can't be inspired. I heard a song over a trap beat people were commenting like "yeah....this that Baltimore shit right here". That's what I'm talking about right there. Odd Future gets it........a lot of people don't.
Come on people..........we need to get back to damn near having an orgasm just listening to a loop of what we did instead of bobbing our heads harder and harder trying to make it do what it ain't meant to do. One month of one of those.........12 months each.....well worth it. Rappers....quit just writing some shit....write some shit. 300....that means something even if you and I don't know. Who cares about your corny punchlines....we just deal with it because we have nothing else. I would love to see how your city gets down in the different ways than where I'm at and where they at.........I mean damn.....what's the slang like? ATL only city with slang? Chicago....N.O.
That's what people forgot. Listening to new folks and forgot what really makes things pop. New folks perspective vs what has always made hip hop poppin. People in Texas introduced us to something so we know how they do and we like it (for example).
What these past couple of years has told me.........young dudes spending too much complaining about hip hop and the sound of it instead of stepping out the door and introducing their city first to what's going to be a representation of it. Get the city on your back.....but move with wisdom...wisdom is the key. You don't want to change for your city....then don't expect hip hop to change for you.
How I see it. Some young cats right now ain't thinking about record sells, show music and money, fame, don't know the business....web presence.....what is that? Guess what? Them the ones that got next.....because they don't understand what's going on....while people are moving with what they think is going on. You have a whole city and surrounding are holding you down...what's going to stop you? The answer..............trying to move too fast into the world you really want to be in.
Sound like where you at......and if it doesn't have a sound then........the sound of where you at is yours. Get people involved around you. THAT'S HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE AS FAR AS THE GROWTH OF HIP HOP. I'm too old for slang and making up stuff for the people to get involved in. Get bout it got dammit! Get your bling bling on!
Damn man.......why didn't they call their music Bling Bling music......but trap gets a name? [shrugs]
Just my 2cent.
Come on people..........we need to get back to damn near having an orgasm just listening to a loop of what we did instead of bobbing our heads harder and harder trying to make it do what it ain't meant to do. One month of one of those.........12 months each.....well worth it. Rappers....quit just writing some shit....write some shit. 300....that means something even if you and I don't know. Who cares about your corny punchlines....we just deal with it because we have nothing else. I would love to see how your city gets down in the different ways than where I'm at and where they at.........I mean damn.....what's the slang like? ATL only city with slang? Chicago....N.O.
That's what people forgot. Listening to new folks and forgot what really makes things pop. New folks perspective vs what has always made hip hop poppin. People in Texas introduced us to something so we know how they do and we like it (for example).
What these past couple of years has told me.........young dudes spending too much complaining about hip hop and the sound of it instead of stepping out the door and introducing their city first to what's going to be a representation of it. Get the city on your back.....but move with wisdom...wisdom is the key. You don't want to change for your city....then don't expect hip hop to change for you.
How I see it. Some young cats right now ain't thinking about record sells, show music and money, fame, don't know the business....web presence.....what is that? Guess what? Them the ones that got next.....because they don't understand what's going on....while people are moving with what they think is going on. You have a whole city and surrounding are holding you down...what's going to stop you? The answer..............trying to move too fast into the world you really want to be in.
Sound like where you at......and if it doesn't have a sound then........the sound of where you at is yours. Get people involved around you. THAT'S HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE AS FAR AS THE GROWTH OF HIP HOP. I'm too old for slang and making up stuff for the people to get involved in. Get bout it got dammit! Get your bling bling on!
Damn man.......why didn't they call their music Bling Bling music......but trap gets a name? [shrugs]
Just my 2cent.
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ProducerJC
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Of coarse you don't go by the worlds definition, you prefer to make up your own...
Either way it doesn't matter. Opinions are like a*sholes and they all stink. Apparently, from reading your example, the only job of an executive producer is to have an objective opinion in the studio. As a Business Executive and Music Producer, I'm very much aware of the jobs responsibilities within the music business. Despite what you choose to believe, executive producers are more than an opinionated jerk off who tries to control people in the studio instead of overseeing the projects success.
People need executive producers when labels want to release a project for the purpose of making money. They need us to provide marketing strategies and sales results based on our skills and connections. A projects success is determined by sales reports from soundscan, and other tracking services. It's also determined by the labels satisfaction level with the sales generated for the executive producer's business strategy. Even if the project never sees the top of a music chart, labels are generally happy if they make 3 times what they invested in the first place.
Like I said, you're partially right in the example provided in the original post. Regardless of what description you go by or make up, there's much more to being an executive producer than being in the recording studio. There's are differences between record producers and executive producers, specifically in their skills and expertise.
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Think about what your saying... Just because some says their an audio engineer doesn't make the one. The same goes for executive level production. They can just as easily be a liar than what they say they are, like most of the trolls in these threads. Be careful with the titles you give yourself, people might actually require you to do the job.
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j.troup
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Soooo...what's your point in the nitpicking and splitting hairs that you're doing? The POINT was, he needs a PROJECT DIRECTOR, whoever has the responsibility of QUALITY CONTROL on his project.
Call it what ever you want.
And I won't ask you for any "credentials". It's not worth it. I'm in a recording session. I don't have time to sword fight.
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ProducerJC
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Thanks for this breakdown, you have a way of explaining things. Everyone has their own work ethics, usually based on the connection they use. I used the wiki definition because it was the most accurate way to point out the fact that more is required of executives in order for them to keep their jobs.
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Yeah, but you had the time to write this ^^ which makes you a sword fighter in my eyes. Get back to your session while I get back to the money.
901_Rice_Street
Rice AKA Clyde Drexler
Nas for example...........he is calling his new Album "It IS Written".........he needs another "IF I Ruled The World" and a Laren Hill. I hope what's been leaking is not on the album.....except The Don....but The DOn ain't the one. Still waiting........tick tock...tick tock. The name already bring high expectations for me.
Zonic
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Isn't Nas next album called "Life is Good"?
901_Rice_Street
Rice AKA Clyde Drexler
^^^Damn....I need my eyes checked and my meds. Read something wrong and then thinking It "Was" Written when I saw it ....(brian flip flop). 
I need to sleep early.
I need to sleep early.
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[F_or_DEAF]
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RIGHT.
but by making your OWN DEFINITION OF THE JOB (or not defining it at all) you cast a shadow of doubt over the required duties and reasonable expectations; to say the LEAST
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word.
every time dog gets jammed up, "oh yeah - i forgot, i'm busy"...corny
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i was being sarcastic
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
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Not arguing, just pointing out semantics. Are you still an Army general after retiring? Are you still a DA if you become a judge? Are you still a surgeon if you get barred from doing surgery? These are people who at one time were great at their descriptive jobs who moved on in positive or negative lights to no longer have the same job titles.
So now I ask...how the hell are you not an executive producer nomatter what you did if a big label company put's "Executive producer: "your name" on the album. Whatever you did, you earned the title of exec on the album in question and have the right to say you exec produced that album while that judge can no longer say he's a DA and that barred from practice guy can no longer say he's a surgeon.
There's alot of power in name's, but trust me, you've got to EARN a title like exec producer. No one's just letting you claim that on an album. And 100% fact, no 2 paths to getting that title on an album are the same. Rick Rubin and Suge Knight prove that.