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fataltone
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My fault for misunderstanding your post bro. This one's on me...
JC is venturing into the gossip section(but sometimes the section can give great insight into the politics of the music business
everyone has their value/worth and it's only clients you need to prove your value to because they are the ones that line your pockets
there's always ways that you can attract potential clients to your services at whatever experience level you're are in your career
from there it's up to you to turn them from potential clients to paying clients
to display your value/worth/advice/guidance to provide a beneficial service(s) to them
and once you provide those beneficial service(s) good reviews/word of mouth reviews will further the view of your level of expertise among colleagues and business associates and most importantly those who are seeking your services
and that my take on this whole discussion
continue to do what you do and advance your knowledge and experience because you are the only one who is paying your bills and living your life
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Desire Inspires
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...pretty much...
as20gp
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LOL ya'll niggas crazy, last time i checked an executive producer was the person who ran the creative direction for the album, but ok.
fataltone
Holy Lamb Media & Ent.
yeah that's what I keep hearing but on indie label, that person might do a lot more
as it always is on indie labels depending on the label size and of course budget
there are some pretty large indie labels out there
and I think most here are on the indie level
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youngregin
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I dunno. Until I'm producing and executive producing albums out here, I'm not really going to critique anyone else's shit that hard.
ProducerJC
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Nor should you. All you need is to research the term Executive and you'll see for yourself. Most people in these threads through the term Producer around freely, not realizing they intend to convey the title Record Producer. If you tell people you're a producer, they usually wonder what kind of producer you are. Some of them will ask your, "What kind of producer" or "What do you produce", while others wonder silently.
Do your own research to avoid the misinformation and confusion associated with learning. Don't rely on what you hear, see, or feel. Instead, exercise your mind and practice what you learn when you have faith the outcome will be satisfactory.
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i agree...
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
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Google "Executive Music Producer" and scroll down. No 2 answers to the job description are the same. There's even Executive Producers explaining their job that don't give the same answer as wiki.
You know, that research everyone keep screamin? I just did it because somehow I let y'all convince me I may not know what I'm talkin about. I absolutely did, had to have temporarily lost my mind to even doubt myself. Just break down the word......
EXECUTIVE producer.
You know, that research everyone keep screamin? I just did it because somehow I let y'all convince me I may not know what I'm talkin about. I absolutely did, had to have temporarily lost my mind to even doubt myself. Just break down the word......
EXECUTIVE producer.
Tufresh20
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Timing is crucial in any career like movies or music because if you cant connect with a fan base its impossible to be successful.
ProducerJC
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Regardless of some people want to make up, titles are established so people know what to expect from your work. Don't let others convince you that your wrong when they can't offer you anything to prove it. Your enemies are the ones who seek to how you back intellectually, in order to destroy you and everything you stand for physically.
Who specifically convinced you that you didn't know what you were talking about? I'd like to avoid their advice...
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JAMESRRTT
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I dont get it
j.troup
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Wow...I'm listening to your "interview", and all I can say is WOW. Quite a few jaw dropping moments...
Like the one where you told new artists not to focus on branding.
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It wasn't said directly to me, but anyone who relied on a definitive answer to a job where the description is constantly changing at the drop of a dime.
It's like saying a bodyguard's job is to jump in front of a bullet for the guy they're protecting. Then someone showing up with a knife, lol.
As said before, the internet convinces people everything has a definitive concrete description. Titles like EXECUTIVE MUSIC PRODUCER do not. Neither does RECORD PRODUCER or even PERFORMING ARTIST.
I can just laugh in the background of a song and get the same title someone else worked all day on a song for depending on what titles are given when it's done.
ProducerJC
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Wow...I'm listening to your "interview", and all I can say is WOW. Quite a few jaw dropping moments...
Like the one where you told new artists not to focus on branding.
Lol... Big enough, really???
It's official, you're a troll. Instead of backing your post with proof, you hide under a bridge whenever challenge presents itself. Either that or you intentionally insult anyone who disagrees with you or elaborates on your post. Either way, I could care less because you prove your own ignorance.
Get over yourself...
I did the same search you did and found the most definitions are generally the same. Their just explained in different ways; and, regardless of what executive producers accomplish, there are certain expectations that come with the job title. Obviously, as a business owner, the job descriptions vary because business owners wear so many hats. However, the general description remains the same for those who work in corporate fields.
I understand where you're coming from though. People claim titles all the time regardless of their actual contributions. That's why people who understand should set the story straight. An Executive Producer is responsible for an entire project. They are the production boss, usually assign by the record labels they work for. In other words, they do much more than provide an objective opinion in the recording studio.That all I was wanted to point out in my original post.
These are definitions from the dictionary
Executive - a person or group of persons having administrative or supervisory authority in an organization.
Producer - a person responsible for the financial and administrative aspects of a stage, film, television, or radio production; the person who exercises general supervision of a production and is responsible chiefly for raising money, hiring technicians and artists, etc., required to stage a play, make a motion picture, or the like.
I didn't make this up, nor do I claim to have all the answers. I learn from the same resources that are available to anyone who's willing to learn. Personally, I'll trust a collection of proven resources more often than individual interpretations.
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j.troup
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Why do I have to back a role definition with PROOF? Proof of WHAT?? What I KNOW executive producers TO DO?? I'm talking people who are credited as executive producers of CD's that are in retail outlets...I've talked to them...I KNOW WHAT THEY DO.
And proof of WHAT I DO IN MY ROLE AS EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF PROJECTS?
You're the one who popped in a thread armed with a Wiki definition of a title that's pretty ambiguous.
And then when I CLARIFIED myself based on the "DEFINITION" you'd given, you still continued to harp on something THAT WASN'T EVEN THE POINT OF THE THREAD!
I didn't hide under a bridge. I clarified myself. If you want to expand the role of EXECUTIVE PRODUCER beyond my definition, that's fine with me. That's what you may do in your roles as an Executive Producer for your clients...again...THAT'S COOL. It's not my place to try to make you believe otherwise, nor do I want to.
But you made it your place to try to force your definition and role description ON ME.
I'm not about to play "mine is bigger than yours". You can have your definition, and perform it in your role as you see fit. And i'll do the same.
But Dude...you don't want it with me. Seriously. After listening to your interview, you're LAUGHABLE. Not even worth any more of my time, beyond the 30 minutes of jaw dropping hilarity I heard in your "interview".
Keep on telling new artists not to focus on branding because "they don't have anything to brand yet".
Maybe you should look up the wikipedia definition of BRANDING.
Good day.
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Producers can make or break a song. But a good artist can make a producers job really easy
ProducerJC
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Lol, I don't need your permission or approval.
Personally, I believe most artists should focus art. Branding is a business term. Business can cloud artistic judgement, everyone knows that. Why do you think major labels have been loosing control of the business? Artist are tired of people telling them what to create or whats good enough. Most artists want creative freedom without label heads telling what to make. They want to have an unfiltered relationship with their fans, and I'm all for it.
The advice you're referring to was directed to those who're just getting their start; the newbies. Newbies don't need to focus on branding because they don't have anything to brand. Once the have a business they can brand that business. You're taking what I said out of context to make yourself feel better.
Again, get over yourself.
And, just FYI, I'm not forcing you or anyone else to believe anything. The facts are apparent to anyone who seeks them out. Honestly, I don't care about your beliefs. I care more about the information posted in the forum. BTW, all I did was add more information to the partial story you chose to write as the creator of this thread. Your ego inspired the rest.
Thanks for the entertainment...
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Personally, I believe most artists should focus art. Branding is a business term. Business can cloud artistic judgement, everyone knows that. Why do you think major labels have been loosing control of the business? Artist are tired of people telling them what to create or whats good enough. Most artists want creative freedom without label heads telling what to make. They want to have an unfiltered relationship with their fans, and I'm all for it.
The advice you're referring to was directed to those who're just getting their start; the newbies. Newbies don't need to focus on branding because they don't have anything to brand. Once the have a business they can brand that business. You're taking what I said out of context to make yourself feel better.
Again, get over yourself.
And, just FYI, I'm not forcing you or anyone else to believe anything. The facts are apparent to anyone who seeks them out. Honestly, I don't care about your beliefs. I care more about the information posted in the forum. BTW, all I did was add more information to the partial story you chose to write as the creator of this thread. Your ego inspired the rest.
Thanks for the entertainment...
THIS IS MY ORIGINAL POST FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED
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