Super Secret MIXING/MASTERING Info!

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I think it's fair to say that many of come to this forum not only to share, but recieve through various formats and idealologies.

This site is thirsty for individual artist to lend their expertise to those of us who are less adapted to the game.

I am sure that your first recording /mixing apparatus was not your last. So if you do notice somone giving "wrong" advice (especialy regarding equipment) feel free to step in lend your knowledge and understanding.

I will be looking for some advice shortly...thanks
 
i agree with the massive mastering guy, no such thing as mastering headphones.

if you believe that, i have a set of mixing mics !!
 
Great advice everyone! Best thread I've read in quite some time.
 
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my question is on mixing, when dropping traks from midi to audio in protools, should you mix the midi first or wait until all traks are audio. and should plugins be applied idirectly on a trak or is it best to bus and send effects etc?
 
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dadonneatz said:
my question is on mixing, when dropping traks from midi to audio in protools, should you mix the midi first or wait until all traks are audio.
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whichever way you feel comfortable.


dadonneatz said:
and should plugins be applied idirectly on a trak or is it best to bus and send effects etc?
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depends on what plugins you are using...

...and this is not really the place ot be asking these questions...

start a new thread asking these questions and I'll be glad to help you out with whatever you need.
 
I am curious weather there is a big difference between getting your music mastered by hardware or just software alone?
 
J.C. said:
I am curious weather there is a big difference between getting your music mastered by hardware or just software alone?
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What you should worry about is WHO is mastering your music... not so much what they use.

Quality software is better than crap hardware...

Quality hardware is better than crap software...


and if the person USING it is not good, then your master will be crap either way.
 
Well met.

And if it means anything, I'm a former hardware junkie turned software junkie for a short time until I went running full steam back to hardware.

Not that there isn't some great software out there - But I wouldn't give up hardware for all of it. That said, the software route is by far the easiest / less expensive option - You can go fairly "top of the line" with software for under $10k. With hardware, you can easily spend five to ten times that without much trouble.

Worth it? Absolutely. But as mentioned, it isn't going to help anyone without the experience to know how to use it.

Well, it might help a bit...

In any case, literally every mastering facility will use a blend of hardware and software most of the time.
 
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Can I ask why you went running back to hardware?
 
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Because software doesn't do what I need it to do. Especially with dynamics - I actually use digital EQ fairly often. But EQ is a relatively simplistic function compared to dynamics control.

If not just for that, the current (awful) trend for volume tends to require headroom that goes well beyond the capabilities of digital - Then, it's a matter of bringing it into the digital domain without wrecking it too badly...
 
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jigalow said:
I try to remember what the sound was in my head and match it up in my mix. Any one else encounted this ?

Maybe I just need to take my pilly pills...
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I thought it was weird too, but i do this aswell..I hear leads it sounds so real but really its all in your mind and its trying to produce it out into the real world...Feels spooky but i guess that us.

Future producer's.
 
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You know...I can't read a note of music (yet), so "doing what the music" tells me is what I live as far as producing or remixing. I tend to come up with a nice beat (Reason), and let it rock for a minute....then I'll hear something - no, it's not actually there (yet) - but the beat seems to be saying "why not add this? wouldn't this be hot?" So I fiddle with the sequencer until I get the sound I need (I can play by ear a little, so I can pretty much come up with a sound in my head and lay it down exactly). I love doing this thing cuz I never know what I'm gonna end up with...y'all got that in y'all blood, because a room full of equipment does not a producer make. I hear some stuff from folks that have waaaaay more equipment than I do and they can't seem to come up with anything that my little niece couldn't have made up with two forks and a dirty pot. Hell, I should try that...where'd I put those forks?....
 
This Is Some Great Advice And I'll Make Sure To Use It Sincerly D-boy Records
 
there is a new DVD out ..well I just order it tody and its new to me..I like the fact its hands on and not just reading a book up on production..
this DVD will be useful to me.. :)


The Internal Mixing DVD-ROM tutorial series is an essential resource for disk recording application users who do their mixing mainly inside their workstation. Providing hands-on strategies for using computers to make powerful, clear and perfectly balanced mixes, Internal Mixing supports you in creating them without using expensive outboard equipment. Internal Mixing

With more than 160 minutes of video in Volume I and over 180 minutes of video on Volume II, Internal Mixing covers tried and tested methods for achieving that often elusive sound known from professionally produced CDs and DVDs. Covering a huge range of issues surrounding mixes, Internal Mixing offers valuable insights into topics such as native and DSP-based plug-ins, the concepts behind positioning instruments and voices within a three dimensional sound field, frequency spaces, optimized mixing workflow and much, much more.


Internal Mixing Tutorial Volume I and II cheek it out
 
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Man I can't find this DVD anywhere in the US. Only thing I see online is shops in Europe.

Where can I find in US? It looks like they got a cool Mastering DVD series out also!

redemption said:
there is a new DVD out ..well I just order it tody and its new to me..I like the fact its hands on and not just reading a book up on production..
this DVD will be useful to me.. :)


The Internal Mixing DVD-ROM tutorial series is an essential resource for disk recording application users who do their mixing mainly inside their workstation. Providing hands-on strategies for using computers to make powerful, clear and perfectly balanced mixes, Internal Mixing supports you in creating them without using expensive outboard equipment. Internal Mixing

With more than 160 minutes of video in Volume I and over 180 minutes of video on Volume II, Internal Mixing covers tried and tested methods for achieving that often elusive sound known from professionally produced CDs and DVDs. Covering a huge range of issues surrounding mixes, Internal Mixing offers valuable insights into topics such as native and DSP-based plug-ins, the concepts behind positioning instruments and voices within a three dimensional sound field, frequency spaces, optimized mixing workflow and much, much more.


Internal Mixing Tutorial Volume I and II cheek it out
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Man I just found em they're $70 each!!!
 
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MASSIVE Mastering said:
Because software doesn't do what I need it to do. Especially with dynamics - I actually use digital EQ fairly often. But EQ is a relatively simplistic function compared to dynamics control.

If not just for that, the current (awful) trend for volume tends to require headroom that goes well beyond the capabilities of digital - Then, it's a matter of bringing it into the digital domain without wrecking it too badly...
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I agree, I Recently brought a Jay-Z record into Wavelab to look at the frequencies, and the ENTIRE wave was chopped off... I had this same problem when I mixed a record for a client and they claimed my mix wasn't as loud as other mixes. When I went to the mastering session, EVERY SINGLE track except mine was compressed to death. Every bit of dynamic squashed to the pint of distortion... I can undersand why it needs to go to the CD so loud... Something will have to change soon...
 
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