I think the OP and others have a valid point. And derange
I dont listen to a lot of the music listed. However, I have heard some of the songs. Especially Trey Songz, a lot of his music is about sex. And i know a lot of young girls that listen to him. My sister and a lot of the girls my age. Theres nothing wrong with him or his music in a general sense. He is specifically catering to a certain market. Teen bops and other sex nymphos. he is a sex image and he provides a fantasy for women and little girls alike. Its almost unobtainable, they know they will never have a chance with him but he provides the illusion.
To say that this type of music is harmless would be an incorrect. In a strange way they are breeding and preparing the next generation for sex. Whispering in their ear about all the pleasures of sex. (Remember no hate just saying what i see) A large percentage of them are already having sex now. And they wonder why they have sex with some dude and then they leave. The market is oversaturated with females ready to give it up. Why would he need to stay with you if its based on sex. Something he can get elsewhere.
Society, music, T.V, movies all play apart in shaping human behavior.
Disclaimer: I am not a hater. I am just using trey songz as in example. No way am I targeting him specifically. Just citing what I've seen. Of course I am not omnipresent and cannot and have not seen all.
Adressing these statements...not arguing.
I sold dope before I could listen to a song and recognize it was about selling dope. I was f**kin before I listened to songs and realized they were about f**king. Alot of stuff I played and sung along with as a kid sounds DIFFERENT when I listen to it now. Because I know what they're talking about.
People in the 50s thought the barber shop quartets were doing the same thing, and Elvis was(in that deep southern Pastor Accent)"THA DEVIIIILLLLLLL!!!!!" with all that pelvic thrusting.
In the end, if you feel this music is influencing anyone, you're looking at weak minded specimens. When I was 9-10 I saw New Jack City. Nino had all that money, all those women, was sooo gangsta? Not to me, I thought he was a monster, I knew he was the bad guy, I hoped Ice T was going to arrest him and was so happy with the outcome.
Just a few years later when life taught me different, I watched that movie again and said, "damn, that dude took over a building, was running it like that, was a man to his word to the point he smoked G Money(which was some real shyt), canceling bytches dumpin' bottles of Moet on their head, and he ain't f**k with that pretty boy dude(made light skinned dudes stock go down when he f**ked up homeboy's hand)and this is based on a true story? That's what I should be". Never made me take over a project building, but I saw the same movie where i rooted for the Police years ago differently. I was like "why ain't they let that man live? He won't botherin nobody who didn't f**k with him".
Now as an adult, I see that movie and ask how we live in a society where someone can create an environment like that for kids to be raised in and why it went undetected so long. I wonder how selfish crackheads have to be to put crack before their children. I wonder why Nino wanted to bring a kid up in his world(remember he didn't like that his wife wasn't able to get pregnant?). I think about how I may have took more advantage of my intelligence if I was raised different and how much my parents to strived make me a respectable member of society that may have seemed like failed attempts a decade ago, but how what they distilled in me made me the man i am today while a good 95% of folk I used to run with are dead(and were killed a long time ago)or in/just getting out of jail.
All i can give is my experience. And with all that said, New Jack City didn't influence my life, it just came on TV in the midst of what was going on in my life. Same goes for music.
Another quick side not, don't confuse our western philosiphies and human nature. 12-16 is the time when humans are supposed to start f**king, reproducing, ect. But since we're "not legal" until 18, don't drink until 21, and are ironically influenced by society to be in school until 22-24, in the U.S. we're supposed to be getting our lives together and settling to have families later. Whether you're male of female, listening to Trey Songs or Kirk Franklin. During that time period, you gain an interest in SEX(as well as other things adults do like Driving Cars, Working Jobs, Using Drugs and Liquor). It's just easier for one to feel like such a curve in behavior is influenced by something other than human nature. Alot of folk front, but even if you didn't partake in these things, you were intrigued by them, just means you weren't as influential as others or just had no way of getting these things, lol.
To be blunt, I been f**kin since 12 because I found a 13 year old who was down and I wanted some, lol. Used condoms my whole life, never caught as much as a cold from a chick. Didn't have kids until I was married, at 24, and don't cheat on my wife because all that shyt was out my system, so everytime a chick gives me the time of day, I don't gotta go stupid.
I wasn't the most strong willed child, that's what made me such a strong willed man. but I always had enough soince to know right from wrong and not to base my life on make beleive in movies and songs. If you or folk you know can't say the same, I got property in Alaska for sale, you guys are the perfect candidates, lol. Somebody gotta be falling for that shyt, cause they keep spamming my emails with it hoping I'm next. :rofl:
