Rewire Vs Bouncing To Disk Sound Quality Video

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deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
I understand how to properly prove or disprove theories
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[F_or_DEAF] said:
WOW...

so you didn't ban FuGiTiVe?!?!

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If I cared to keep him banned, why am I aware "Free Thought" visits the site not buggin out and not care until he does again?

Also banned a gang of others up here for acting dumb. Your point?

Right now you acting like you wanna go there when the big part of Fugitive being banned if I remember correct was him tormenting members like...you. Then after I adjusted posts where he put you on blast, he got stupid. i closed the thread. He opened another to talk more sh*t, I closed that one, then he opened another one talking about me and someone else's dead mothers(although my mother ain't dead)...then he got banned. Guess I shoulda let it continue? :cheers:
 
By the way guys. I've only noticed a huge difference one time with this whole argument. The other times I've heard a difference it was really, really insignificant. It's not something I constantly hear so it doesn't bother me all the time. But it's the little things that take audio to the next level.

And I don't think everyone heard me clearly that I was using the mixer in both cases. Although when I bypass the mixer I like the sound much better as well.

It's stupid to argue though. I mean I can start quoting Michael Brauer about how no software can correctly mix over 32 tracks as well as analog consoles because of the bottlenecking that occurs at the mix engine. But there is no since in debating things like this. Some people hear things that aren't there. Some people convince themselves of a fact. Some people have a golden ear that notices stuff that could never be explained to another and so on. Just do what you do. I was just stating that I have also heard this comparison with similar views.

***deranged has never banned me and we constantly get into it. LOL.***
 
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DaNOC said:
Tell me how many bits are being lost etc etc, explain it to me
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the video wasn't about "explaining"...

it was more about letting your ears do the "explaining" for you.

no need to get into specifics when the answer is coming clearly out of the monitors.
 
Morning_Star said:
By the way guys. I've only noticed a huge difference one time with this whole argument. The other times I've heard a difference it was really, really insignificant. It's not something I constantly hear so it doesn't bother me all the time. But it's the little things that take audio to the next level.

And I don't think everyone heard me clearly that I was using the mixer in both cases. Although when I bypass the mixer I like the sound much better as well.

It's stupid to argue though. I mean I can start quoting Michael Brauer about how no software can correctly mix over 32 tracks as well as analog consoles because of the bottlenecking that occurs at the mix engine. But there is no since in debating things like this. Some people hear things that aren't there. Some people convince themselves of a fact. Some people have a golden ear that notices stuff that could never be explained to another and so on. Just do what you do. I was just stating that I have also heard this comparison with similar views.
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I hear that. Couldn't disagree if I wanted to. But since you've chimed in, I have one question. Yes or No. No further explanation is needed if you feel no need to. Do you think Malki's test was free of errors that could compromise the results making it insufficient evidence of a factual difference between the sound of bouncing out of Reason and Rewiring?:cheers:
 
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
I hear that. Couldn't disagree if I wanted to. But since you've chimed in, I have one question. Yes or No. No further explanation is needed if you feel no need to. Do you think Malki's test was free of errors that could compromise the results making it insufficient evidence of a factual difference between the sound of bouncing out of Reason and Rewiring?:cheers:
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No, I said it in my very first post that the test wasn't great. But there is def something going on there because I know pro mixing engineers that swear by mixing in Sonar for some reason.... I know before I got in the habit of mixing downward that my protools mixes were terrible because the protools mix engine allows clipping per channel unlike 90% of the other software out there.
 
How it become about what he did to you? Won't it about me banning dude? You made it seem like I was on some martial law sh*t or something. Y'all take me being a mod serious. I don't. I show up to clear smoke when y'all offend each other acting like children. In all fairness, you come in here calling me names, I give a f**k, I call names back while stating my point.

Don't like it, Report me. PM another Mod and let them judge my actions. Or don't call me a "dick" or cosign the dude calling me a "dick" and get the ball rolling.

I'm not here to argue. Apparently y'all are. Debating is a completely different thing.
 
Oh, and honestly if there wasn't something going on I really don't think this would be getting dragged up so often and keep coming back to haunt us. It would die like the myth of a hacked Reason software called "Treason".... any one remember that one???
 
Morning_Star said:
I know pro mixing engineers that swear by mixing in Sonar for some reason....
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Sonar is kinda lucrative...i know a few cats that be runnin' that shyt faithfully; and w/ not even that great of mics / pre's, their shyt be comin' out somewhat solid.

Morning_Star said:
I know before I got in the habit of mixing downward that my protools mixes were terrible because the protools mix engine allows clipping per channel unlike 90% of the other software out there.
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so it's true that the only channel you have to worry about clipping on in ProTools is the master channel?
 
Morning_Star said:
No, I said it in my very first post that the test wasn't great. But there is def something going on there because I know pro mixing engineers that swear by mixing in Sonar for some reason.... I know before I got in the habit of mixing downward that my protools mixes were terrible because the protools mix engine allows clipping per channel unlike 90% of the other software out there.
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Fair enough. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't taking crazy pills alone.:cheers:

And F or Deaf, I make it a habit not to ban people who I debate with up here. They get all emotional and think i have some personal vendetta. If I didn't I could've banned you for at least ten legit reasons in threads where we had absolutely no interaction in just the past 48 or so hours. :cheers:

I became a mod to help better this site, not to babysit. I got kids of my own... better behaved than y'all. :cheers:
 
[F_or_DEAF] said:
Sonar is kinda lucrative...i know a few cats that be runnin' that shyt faithfully; and w/ not even that great of mics / pre's, their shyt be comin' out somewhat solid.



so it's true that the only channel you have to worry about clipping on in ProTools is the master channel?
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I know, what's up with that Sonar crap. Everyone using Sonar is killing it.

ProTools WILL clip any channel. Cubase only clips the master.
 
Sonar is like the kid on the playground with lice that everyone still plays with because they found out that he has a trampoline.
 
With Sonar, It's the 64bit mixdowns and "Pow-R Dithering. I wasn't a beleiver until I tried it. Makes any noise disappear and everything just sits clean in the mix. Even when rendered to mp3.

All i can say is you gotta try it. i won't try to prove it because i have no clue why it's so clean and can honestly admit that.

I think people thought I was here to say all music apps sound the same...absolutely not. these are the things that make all the difference in the wolrd. but I wouldn't do a 64bit mixdown using powr dithering and null test it agains a Pro Tools bounce expecting to prove anything.

I'm done. Seriously. Been fun guys. Use what you use and beleive what you do. Peace.
 
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