Rewire Vs Bouncing To Disk Sound Quality Video

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

oh i think i get it now. are you referring to combinator patches that use the mixer? or basically projects as a whole that you would rewire but still have sub-mixers within them?

if that is so then i think we should just look at the reason mixer as a sort of device that "colours" the sound in some way. as you said some people might prefer this sound.

According to Propellerhead it makes the sound 'better". I said that once before in this thread with the quotes. "Better" is very subjective. If we're here to prove there's a difference in bouncing down and rewiring(the original purpose of all this)we have to be precise.

 

[DaNOC]

oh i think i get it now. are you referring to combinator patches that use the mixer? or basically projects as a whole that you would rewire but still have sub-mixers within them?

if that is so then i think we should just look at the reason mixer as a sort of device that "colours" the sound in some way. as you said some people might prefer this sound.

Like me Terror, I will do my drums in REason because I love the boards sound, now when I am doing the other instruments on top of my drums I am using Record, put I have a sub mixer on two track in Record and I can still tweak inside of Record on the 14:2 mixer with the other sounds inside of Record to give it a better mix so I am in one environment.

 

[DaNOC]

According to Propellerhead it makes the sound 'better". I said that once before in this thread with the quotes. "Better" is very subjective. If we're here to prove there's a difference in bouncing down and rewiring(the original purpose of all this)we have to be precise.

^^^ Exactly. according to DA NOC ears my tracks sound the same quality from Reason/Record when bounced to PT. and I work with Professionals almost everyday and I haven't gotten one complaint! Not one!

 

[DaNOC]

we can love Reason and Record and just make great music

 

[malki]

Now you can't comprehend? I said nothing remotely close to what you're talking about. Why load 14 different 14:2 mixers to give yourself 14 times the compromisation? I guess I'll have to make a vid of what you were supposed to do? I don't got time, but it's quicker than trying to explain for the 80th time. "Professional Engineers" these days. SMH.

I see why Massive had to leave this sh*t alone.

Last time. Maybe you'll get it.

Open Reason. Delete everything that opens in your template. load NNXT make a loop. It will play thru channel 1 & 2 of the "output"(no mixer). Export Loop. Save file. Rewire in Pro Tools. Load File. Export same loop from Pro Tools. Close Pro Tools. Load both .wavs back up in Pro Tools for Null testing. If there's a difference then. you're right. If not, DaNoc is. Either way, who tha fucc cares?

All this and peoples mixes will still sound like sh*t regardless if the don't know how to mix and be clean as f**k if the do.

Your f**kin welcome. We all can't be as genius as you.

Sorry for being such a dyck. but since I'm already gonna get called one(check ya own post response to my helpful 1st post). I might as well play the role to perfection. Cause I am a dyck. i try to come up here and act like you guys are my "peers". I'll be on my pedistal looking down on y'all knowlegeless peasants for the rest of the thread.

Im not arguing that man. because theres no way to use more than one sound without making a mixer so that ends your argument right there. period


and dotn try to act all high and mighty. just cuz your the moderator. most moderators are suckers. why do i call them suckers. cuz they suck. lol dont be a sucker

 

[DaNOC]

To Daranged

^^^ Exactly. according to DA NOC ears my tracks sound the same quality from Reason/Record when bounced to PT. and I work with Professionals almost everyday and I haven't gotten one complaint! Not one!
Plus PROS ARE USING BOUNCING! lol now they are better than me if they thought it was a carnal sin they wouldn't use it lol

 

[malki]

to have the best possible sound (best is subjective though...) it seems it would be better to rewire in REALITY. this is because, as malki has already stated, when you make a song in reason (stand alone) you are going to be using a mixer and when you rewire you're not going to be creating individual mixers for every single instrument.

and there you have it

 

[malki]

i don't know if i follow you exactly, but i think you might be saying that if you are exporting from reason anyway you are going to be using the mastering eq, comp, limiter, stereo imager and that they would have such an effect on the sound as to almost null the point of bypassing the reason mixer and rewiring into another host.

am i correct in saying that?

maybe so but if you bypassed the mixer with all that **** on, you would still get an increase. lol

 

[malki]

plus you would still have to bypass the mixer to track each sound 1 by 1 in rewire even if it had effects on it

 

[DaNOC]

and there you have it

BY TERROR

"Originally Posted by say it terror

to have the best possible sound (best is subjective though...) it seems it would be better to rewire in REALITY. this is because, as malki has already stated, when you make a song in reason (stand alone) you are going to be using a mixer and when you rewire you're not going to be creating individual mixers for every single instrument."


So when I bounce to PT I don't have create individual mixers for every single instrument either. And the point being? ..........

 

[malki]

The point is the rewire mixer degrades the sq so bouncing from reason will degrade your sq since you will most likely be going through the mixer da noc you are the most hard headed musician ive ever had a conversation with

 

[DaNOC]

plus you would still have to bypass the mixer to track each sound 1 by 1 in rewire even if it had effects on it

LOL now the funny part is "I AM NOT USING REASON!" lol I am using Record to bounce and I showed you the chart you can bounce all tracks simultaneously or 4 tracks first, then 2 or how ever you want it.

Being on the note of Reason, If I had 12 Tracks and they were in a 4 bar loop, that wouldn't be a hassle I done it. it takes less than 20 seconds. If I had a whole arrangement it wouldnt be a hassle either and it would take less time also.

 

[[F_or_DEAF]]

And the point being?

@ the end of the day, you mine as well get on "team ReWire" because you gonna be usin' that shyt for REcord & REason...sooo...you mine as well make it easy on yourself and instead of bouncing REcord's output into ProTools; ReWire ALL THREE.

 

[malki]

LOL now the funny part is "I AM NOT USING REASON!" lol I am using Record to bounce and I showed you the chart you can bounce all tracks simultaneously or 4 tracks first, then 2 or how ever you want it.

Being on the note of Reason, If I had 12 Tracks and they were in a 4 bar loop, that wouldn't be a hassle I done it. it takes less than 20 seconds. If I had a whole arrangement it wouldnt be a hassle either and it would take less time also.

ok whatever cuz.

theres no point at all.

you are blind

 

[DaNOC]

The point is the rewire mixer degrades the sq so bouncing from reason will degrade your sq since you will most likely be going through the mixer da noc you are the most hard headed musician ive ever had a conversation with

hold up, you're trying to tell me since the mixer is degraded rewiring through to PT will enhance it once again? You're kidding me right? I already stated you're as good as your mix. How in the heck can the mixer degrade sq when bouncing when it is uncompromissed audio? What I put in my Reason and bounce is what I hear exactly in PT, and you're the most hard headed person. Again I AM NOT USING REASON! So what excuse you have now for Record? Now that is has a better mixing board the top quality of any software on the market. No software on the market has a mixing board better than Props. none! so what are you going to tell peeps who have claimed they aint even opening up PT they are just rocking Record and don't have to because the sound quality is so pristine. Props said it themselves, so are they wrong when they made the dam product?

 

[DaNOC]

ok whatever cuz.

theres no point at all.

you are blind

No not blind I have two eyes and can see. Just like this, you say tamato I say tomato, agreed! Just do your thing. I aint never using Rewire. it seems you don't understand the definition of wav and when it's bouncing/exporting that it's lossless audio quality.

 

[DaNOC]

@ the end of the day, you mine as well get on "team ReWire" because you gonna be usin' that shyt for REcord & REason...sooo...you mine as well make it easy on yourself and instead of bouncing REcord's output into ProTools; ReWire ALL THREE.

I tell you what since you're on team rewire, I already called you and anyone else out. lets make a video see 1. quality, 2. easiness
3. quickest and I am using Record bouncing technic. Now if you want to open up three dam programs and I don't have to open any that's your business. but I would never be foolish enough to open up three dam programs to get one result.

 

[malki]

I tell you what since you're on team rewire, I already called you and anyone else out. lets make a video see 1. quality, 2. easiness
3. quickest and I am using Record bouncing technic. Now if you want to open up three dam programs and I don't have to open any that's your business. but I would never be foolish enough to open up three dam programs to get one result.

you DID say you still use pro tools at the end

 

[malki]

hold up, you're trying to tell me since the mixer is degraded rewiring through to PT will enhance it once again? You're kidding me right? I already stated you're as good as your mix. How in the heck can the mixer degrade sq when bouncing when it is uncompromissed audio? What I put in my Reason and bounce is what I hear exactly in PT, and you're the most hard headed person. Again I AM NOT USING REASON! So what excuse you have now for Record? Now that is has a better mixing board the top quality of any software on the market. No software on the market has a mixing board better than Props. none! so what are you going to tell peeps who have claimed they aint even opening up PT they are just rocking Record and don't have to because the sound quality is so pristine. Props said it themselves, so are they wrong when they made the dam product?

oops what i meant to say was the reason mixer not the rewire mixer. you just keep making me repeat myself its like a broken record. it was a typo.

 

[malki]

hold up, you're trying to tell me since the mixer is degraded rewiring through to PT will enhance it once again? You're kidding me right? I already stated you're as good as your mix. How in the heck can the mixer degrade sq when bouncing when it is uncompromissed audio? What I put in my Reason and bounce is what I hear exactly in PT, and you're the most hard headed person. Again I AM NOT USING REASON! So what excuse you have now for Record? Now that is has a better mixing board the top quality of any software on the market. No software on the market has a mixing board better than Props. none! so what are you going to tell peeps who have claimed they aint even opening up PT they are just rocking Record and don't have to because the sound quality is so pristine. Props said it themselves, so are they wrong when they made the dam product?

you can still rewire record so if it was so great why leave the rewire option.