propellerheads are soon gonna announce something new/ The Reason 5 thread

[DaNOC]

yo D...Amazon just hit me up and they said the Propellerhead Record Power! book will be available July 30th...

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that's hella tight!

Yo, I hope that's not a duplicate of the pdf like homie said, and you find out and be pissed! find out before you buy that book, if it's not then you should be good to go. Dam don't R5 and 1.5 suppose to drop at about that same time? You gotta wait two months for that.

This is why I love this, it hass more pads then the Axiom Pro, plus the Pads sit in front of you not off to the right and the transporter is right below it off to the right. I love the knobs on it nice and big and the faders are tight on here too. Some don't like the pads but I do, I mean they are not the MPC but why get so deep into pads? Just bang out and make music. Plus this has note repeat/tap tempo, does the Axiom have that? I don't know. It's built real solid, I love it. I work fast on that baby, doesn't hurt that it looks great too.

 

[dabeatdoctor1989]

I don't believe any of those have been added to reason 5. I got the beta last night and as far as I could tell the answer is No to both questions.

dang...disk streaming would have made sense if they didn't feel like going 64 bit.

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if i was a mod, cats would catch temp-bans for actin' a fool in threads and sidetracking 'em...off the top

Like its that serious ,If I got a temp ban for any reason I don't think I would ever come back...so if a mod that thinks like you wanna ban me ,I don't care...i got a life outside of talking on a forum.

 

[[F_or_DEAF]]

If I got a temp ban for any reason I don't think I would ever come back...so if a mod that thinks like you wanna ban me ,I don't care...i got a life outside of talking on a forum.

lol...yup...sure was talkin' about you...

 

[DaNOC]

and that is why you are not a mod lol. seriously that sounds ideal but it would cause a lot of problems. u gotta let people have some leeway mods are not here to be dictators

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I really want to get my hands on an axiom pro. My BCF2000 is mad deep but having 3 midi controllers takes up quite a bit of desk space (BCF2000, MPD16 and Radium 49)

Oh man yeah that takes up hella space. That's why I got the Akai joint because it's like having a MPC and Keyboard controller all in one. So I have all 16 pads and weighted keys and transport, fast forward and rewind, pitch/mod wheels, transpose up/down knobs and buttons to handle the software gear so I know what you mean.

 

[[F_or_DEAF]]

damn...i actually used to think i was missin' out on something from not owning a MPC, but w/ the props droppin ANOTHER drum machine into Reason, safe to say a MPC isn't exactly on my list of priorities like it used to be!

 

[DaNOC]

lol...yup...sure was talkin' about you...

Yo man mixing on that SSL in Record is DOPE! Yo I just did three songs since last night, I am going to put up one of my songwriter/singer joint RnB with a video and let peeps get a wiff of it. Yo I am transfering all my tracks over to Record I am not mixing in PT anymore! it's a wrap!I love the editing in it too, I am so loving this thing, I thank Props for giving us what they gave, this is a life saver man.

 

[[F_or_DEAF]]

as soon as that book drops man, i'm gonna be right in the same boat as you!

can't wait to get Record goin'...

i have no doubt whatsoever that it's gonna make finishing projects SO much smoother!

 

[Darko]

if its a .5 update that means its free lol

Traditionally, sure, but they could call it whatever they want. Look how long Apple's been milking OS 10.x.

but anyway does Kong have banks????

It should only be a matter of assigning the preset up and down arrows to buttons on your midi controller or qwerty keyboard. Then whatever's in the current preset's folder will be scrolled through. As long as your computer is fast enough to load the presets as fast as you need them you should be good. I don't know if that's what you mean by bank change, but if all the presets you wanna use at one time aren't in the same folder, you can copy them to it.

 

[mrgibbs]

danoc i hear you with the akaimpk88 but the reason i feel the axiom pro is a better keyboard imo because i can control every feature on all of the reason/record devices and i can see all the control right on the screen i can set loop points, control tempo, create instruments effects and scroll through all of my refills with the push of button. i have the mpd32 so i really have no need for the pads on my axiom but i use them to load effects, copy and paste clips, undo all that without touching the mouse.

 

[neverenoughfunk]

i like the akai mpk49 but i prefer the axiom pro serious over it due to more total control over record and reason.

there is no personality file for Record wth Axiom Pro...

not sure how you have total control over Record...

i own the Axiom Pro 61...

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dang...disk streaming would have made sense if they didn't feel like going 64 bit

you figure that since you can record a band in Record there must be some disk streaming technoloy in Record. therefore, since they are using "disk streaming" already in Record why not add that technology to a sampler...

they would need to make Record/Reason a 64-bit app also to take advange of memory. those types of sample libraries are large...

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Like its that serious ,If I got a temp ban for any reason I don't think I would ever come back...so if a mod that thinks like you wanna ban me ,I don't care...i got a life outside of talking on a forum.

co-sign!!!!

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Most of the time when I sample, Im not sampling records at all. Im sampling percussion, vocals, guitars, synths etc. For many years as a reason user, sampling was something that you had to approach in a very premeditated manner. There was not a creative flow to it because it required you to jump between a few programs to really accomplish what you were trying to do. This Reason now allowing me to take sounds from the real world and work them into my track on the fly really changes the approach creatively. It reminds me of the days when samplers actually...well you know...sampled. The concept of sampling is not new so lets be clear, nothing ground breaking going on here in Reason. However the reason experience has been amplified SUBSTANTIALLY by allowing us to use the sampler beyond a playback capacity. There is much more of a connection between you and Reason now that it directly interacts with the physical world. Of course when talking about sampling records, the sample is what gets the blood flowing, but again the majority of the time Im sampling anything but records.

i know you own the maschine and not sure if you own fl studio, ableton live but could you discuss the differents in sampling in Reason -vs- these other products...

sampline in ableton live, fl studio is just using one app too...

i am not sure about the maschine....

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danoc i hear you with the akaimpk88 but the reason i feel the axiom pro is a better keyboard imo because i can control every feature on all of the reason/record devices and i can see all the control right on the screen i can set loop points, control tempo, create instruments effects and scroll through all of my refills with the push of button. i have the mpd32 so i really have no need for the pads on my axiom but i use them to load effects, copy and paste clips, undo all that without touching the mouse.

the mpk does not have a keypad that is the main difference between mpk and axiom pro...

the keypad is a very handy. it cuts mousing around down...

another thing the mpk is missing is personality files...

the axiom pro has personality files for pro tools, reason, cubase,ableton and logic...

with the mpk you have to program it for the DAW in question, i believe (not sure)...

you open any of the above apps and call up the preset on the axiom pro and it is mapped to the controls in that app. plus, with hypercontrol it control your reason devices and vsti in your DAW...

to have a balance view of the axiom pro, hypercontrols does not work with kontakt 4 but does work with the rest of the native instruments komplete package...

only keyboard controller in the same class as the axiom pro are the novation products...

 

[mrgibbs]

there is no personality file for Record wth Axiom Pro...

not sure how you have total control over Record...

i own the Axiom Pro 61...

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you figure that since you can record a band in Record there must be some disk streaming technoloy in Record. therefore, since they are using "disk streaming" already in Record why not add that technology to a sampler...

they would need to make Record/Reason a 64-bit app also to take advange of memory. those types of sample libraries are large...

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co-sign!!!!

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i know you own the maschine and not sure if you own fl studio, ableton live but could you discuss the differents in sampling in Reason -vs- these other products...

sampline in ableton live, fl studio is just using one app too...

i am not sure about the maschine....

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the mpk does not have a keypad that is the main difference between mpk and axiom pro...

the keypad is a very handy. it cuts mousing around down...

another thing the mpk is missing is personality files...

the axiom pro has personality files for pro tools, reason, cubase,ableton and logic...

with the mpk you have to program it for the DAW in question, i believe (not sure)...

you open any of the above apps and call up the preset on the axiom pro and it is mapped to the controls in that app. plus, with hypercontrol it control your reason devices and vsti in your DAW...

to have a balance view of the axiom pro, hypercontrols does not work with kontakt 4 but does work with the rest of the native instruments komplete package...

only keyboard controller in the same class as the axiom pro are the novation products...

funk i don't use the presets in the axiom pro if i do i rearrange the presets to my liking if, you actually have to manually maps out your controls you cc controls in the edit mode of the keyboard to the main mixer of record. all other devices in record are automatically mapped out. i use the drum pad and keypads to quatize, zoom in, zoom out, create effects. create instruments, scroll though my refills, copy and paste. and control whatever else i need i dont use just one preset when im working with reason and record. try it out it might work for you.

 

[Xabiton]

Yo, I hope that's not a duplicate of the pdf like homie said, and you find out and be pissed! find out before you buy that book, if it's not then you should be good to go. Dam don't R5 and 1.5 suppose to drop at about that same time? You gotta wait two months for that.

This is why I love this, it hass more pads then the Axiom Pro, plus the Pads sit in front of you not off to the right and the transporter is right below it off to the right. I love the knobs on it nice and big and the faders are tight on here too. Some don't like the pads but I do, I mean they are not the MPC but why get so deep into pads? Just bang out and make music. Plus this has note repeat/tap tempo, does the Axiom have that? I don't know. It's built real solid, I love it. I work fast on that baby, doesn't hurt that it looks great too.

I like the MPK series but my beef with most 88 key controllers is that the only added feature you get is weighted keys. With all of that extra space why don't they add more buttons knobs and faders. I would rather have too many controls than not enough. And tap tempo in Reason 5 can be assigned anywhere. Right now I have it assigned to a button on my BCF2000 yesterday i had it assigned to the ? keys so no need for a dedicated tap tempo button. I am waiting for them to get note repeat right in daws before i comment on those though

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dang...disk streaming would have made sense if they didn't feel like going 64 bit.

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Like its that serious ,If I got a temp ban for any reason I don't think I would ever come back...so if a mod that thinks like you wanna ban me ,I don't care...i got a life outside of talking on a forum.

isnt this your third account though.

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Oh man yeah that takes up hella space. That's why I got the Akai joint because it's like having a MPC and Keyboard controller all in one. So I have all 16 pads and weighted keys and transport, fast forward and rewind, pitch/mod wheels, transpose up/down knobs and buttons to handle the software gear so I know what you mean.

yeah man my workspace is cramped but I have everything that you have on your mpk except for weighted keys. I can't really justify buying a new controller when I have all of those features already on each of my other controllers but i keep trying to talk myself into the MPK 49 or 61. I don't need 88 keys I don't even need 61 to be honest I've been using 49 for so long that it just feels natural for me. but the desk is kinda stuffed lol

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Traditionally, sure, but they could call it whatever they want. Look how long Apple's been milking OS 10.x.

i am not a mac guy and do not follow any of apples business doings. the only apple product i own is a Ipod nano v1 and thats because I got it as a christmas present i dont even use it I listen to music via my black berry

It should only be a matter of assigning the preset up and down arrows to buttons on your midi controller or qwerty keyboard. Then whatever's in the current preset's folder will be scrolled through. As long as your computer is fast enough to load the presets as fast as you need them you should be good. I don't know if that's what you mean by bank change, but if all the presets you wanna use at one time aren't in the same folder, you can copy them to it.

the feature isnt there though. there are only 16 places to assign them. what one can do and what i may end up doing is making a combinator patch for this. set it up with a mixer and drop 4 kongs in it then its nothing but assigning the pads to certain keyboard keys. it sounds time consuming but its not at all

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danoc i hear you with the akaimpk88 but the reason i feel the axiom pro is a better keyboard imo because i can control every feature on all of the reason/record devices and i can see all the control right on the screen i can set loop points, control tempo, create instruments effects and scroll through all of my refills with the push of button. i have the mpd32 so i really have no need for the pads on my axiom but i use them to load effects, copy and paste clips, undo all that without touching the mouse.

i wish i knew how to make my bcf 2000 open instruments and effects. i dont really even use the pads on my mpd 16 but I have them so I dont get rid of them

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funk i don't use the presets in the axiom pro if i do i rearrange the presets to my liking if, you actually have to manually maps out your controls you cc controls in the edit mode of the keyboard to the main mixer of record. all other devices in record are automatically mapped out. i use the drum pad and keypads to quatize, zoom in, zoom out, create effects. create instruments, scroll though my refills, copy and paste. and control whatever else i need i dont use just one preset when im working with reason and record. try it out it might work for you.

is it possible to program these things in Record or Reason without the axiom pro? I really use my bcf2000 to get around my software a lot i would love to open the create insturment window from it even

 

[mrgibbs]

not with the bcf2000 im going to create video to show you how i they keyboard works with reason and record. i need a new mic pre as well any suggestions anyone lol.

 

[neverenoughfunk]

funk i don't use the presets in the axiom pro if i do i rearrange the presets to my liking if, you actually have to manually maps out your controls you cc controls in the edit mode of the keyboard to the main mixer of record. all other devices in record are automatically mapped out. i use the drum pad and keypads to quatize, zoom in, zoom out, create effects. create instruments, scroll though my refills, copy and paste. and control whatever else i need i dont use just one preset when im working with reason and record. try it out it might work for you.

the axiom pro works great with Reason. actually, i had to download the personality patch from m-audio website. there is no peronality patch for Record as of yet and many individuals are requesting it...

i mainly use my axiom pro with ableton live and cubase 5. there are personality patches for both. the only programming i have done on the axion pro is when using ableton live i use the keypad for shortcuts (i.e. 1 on the keypad is metronome, 2 tap tempo, 3 record over, etc). with cubase it works right out of the box. the fact that you can use ascii with the keypad and drumpads make having the axiom pro very convenient...

with ableton or cubase there is no need to change the presets of the axiom pro while working in those two apps. all the importand parameters are mapped out already..

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i wish i knew how to make my bcf 2000 open instruments and effects. i dont really even use the pads on my mpd 16 but I have them so I dont get rid of them

opening instruments and effects works on the axiom pro because it handle ascii. in ableton live i think the keystroke command for open a instrument/effect is cntl-p. with the axiom pro just program whatever knob/pad/keypad to send the cntl-p to the app...

the key is being able to send ascii messages to your app (i.e. cntl z = undo cntl x = cut, etc)...

 

[Xabiton]

the axiom pro works great with Reason. actually, i had to download the personality patch from m-audio website. there is no peronality patch for Record as of yet and many individuals are requesting it...

i mainly use my axiom pro with ableton live and cubase 5. there are personality patches for both. the only programming i have done on the axion pro is when using ableton live i use the keypad for shortcuts (i.e. 1 on the keypad is metronome, 2 tap tempo, 3 record over, etc). with cubase it works right out of the box. the fact that you can use ascii with the keypad and drumpads make having the axiom pro very convenient...

with ableton or cubase there is no need to change the presets of the axiom pro while working in those two apps. all the importand parameters are mapped out already..

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opening instruments and effects works on the axiom pro because it handle ascii. in ableton live i think the keystroke command for open a instrument/effect is cntl-p. with the axiom pro just program whatever knob/pad/keypad to send the cntl-p to the app...

the key is being able to send ascii messages to your app (i.e. cntl z = undo cntl x = cut, etc)...

you can use insert to open whatever with your qwerty keyboard or ctrl+i for instruments or ctrl + e for fx i just wanna do it from my controller

 

[mrgibbs]

you can use insert to open whatever with your qwerty keyboard or ctrl+i for instruments or ctrl + e for fx i just wanna do it from my controller

yeah that exactly what you can do with the axiom pro i actually think its the best controller on the market.

 

[neverenoughfunk]

you can use insert to open whatever with your qwerty keyboard or ctrl+i for instruments or ctrl + e for fx i just wanna do it from my controller

when using a qwerty keyboard all your keystrokes are ascii...

the axiom pro can produce ascii keystrokes just like you qwerty keyboard...

therefore, if your controller cant produce ascii keystrokes you will not be able to open vsti/instrument and/or effects...

i am not going to say the axiom pro is the best because that would be subjective but it is a very nice midi controller...

 

[dabeatdoctor1989]

isnt this your third account though.

Yeah ,but I made all those new accounts was made back in the fp glory days when all the "legends" were on t the same time, I was actually learning something then ,now I just chat a bit...nice set up by the way.....

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you figure that since you can record a band in Record there must be some disk streaming technoloy in Record. therefore, since they are using "disk streaming" already in Record why not add that technology to a sampler...

they would need to make Record/Reason a 64-bit app also to take advange of memory. those types of sample libraries are large...

Yeah ,I really want them to just make the programs 64 bit because I got ram going to waste on my 64 bit system I have yet to see more than 2-4gb of usage.

 

[StreetSlang]

Yeah ,but I made all those new accounts was made back in the fp glory days when all the "legends" were on t the same time, I was actually learning something then ,now I just chat a bit...nice set up by the way.....

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Yeah ,I really want them to just make the programs 64 bit because I got ram going to waste on my 64 bit system I have yet to see more than 2-4gb of usage.

How big are your sessions that 4 gigs couldn't handle?

 

[mrgibbs]

i was about to ask the same thing like how big are your reason sessions. the i highest i went to was 64 tracks in reason and record.. with nothing but combinator patches. and my meter barely moved lol.