propellerheads are soon gonna announce something new/ The Reason 5 thread

[DaNOC]

Scale Clips by Resizing
By pressing the alt or option key, Record 1.5 lets you timestretch individual clips. Now you can stretch loops to match your song's tempo, or expand samples to eight times the length for completely new sounds.


Additional CV inputs on Combinator
The Combinator in Reason 5 is expanded with new CV inputs on the back. The four new CV inputs can be used to control any parameter on the contained devices, providing even more options and possibilities for sound designers. <----I know Mr Gibbs lovin that!

Tap Tempo
New in the transport panel is the Tap Tempo button.


That time stretch really got me, I CAN'T WAIT!





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Ok, now that they have reason 5 and record 1.5, can they please give recycle and update... maaan

What do you wanna see done up in recycle?


speaking of it, I need to load that back in my computer with the new 2.1.2 update with my Leopard I hope it don't glich up and works proper because it was acting crazy in snow leopard. :smokinFP:

 

[kb420]

I use adobe audition to chop samples, and occasionally recycle..
for me it's better that way, chop up the sample.. then when you open up reason BAM, your ready to go

I hate having to open Recycle just to chop. I can record a sample, time stretch it, chop it by hand, or even chop it "Rex" style all in Live. It's hard to beat the ability to do all of that in ONE program.

 

[_SG_]

I hate having to open Recycle just to chop. I can record a sample, time stretch it, chop it by hand, or even chop it "Rex" style all in Live. It's hard to beat the ability to do all of that in ONE program.

Face it kb420, live has spoiled us in that arena,

 

[kb420]

Face it kb420, live has spoiled us in that arena,

It would really take a lot for me to move over to something else to chop samples with. That's no lie.

 

[mars]

I hate having to open Recycle just to chop. I can record a sample, time stretch it, chop it by hand, or even chop it "Rex" style all in Live. It's hard to beat the ability to do all of that in ONE program.

yah, I guess it's something I am used to.. when designing websites, I have to use 4 different softwares to get the final result.. so to open up one program for chopping is nothing

What do you wanna see done up in recycle?

speaking of it, I need to load that back in my computer with the new 2.1.2 update with my Leopard I hope it don't glich up and works proper because it was acting crazy in snow leopard.

maybe the ability to delete parts of the sample that you don't use
and maybe a cue list

 

[Trusty]

Okay if you think being able to save slices in the rex format is worth that then that's okay.

Even then, why couldn't they just have both? Be able to slice (and if they were really feeling generous also able to export rex files) in reason/record, and also have recycle for those that just want to be able to use their rex files in any software that supports it. Or I'd even be happy if slicing in reason was only for wav files. My point is that having to rely on a separate program just to slice easily is an antiquated method. If you're happy using the current method, good for you. Doesn't make the criticisms any less valid.

Oh and by the way, I don't chop anything in rex anymore, not after how easy I saw it was in things like ableton live and logic studio. I just wish reason would step up and include it, it'd make reason even more useful.

I don't see why they don't put slicing in at least one sampler for Reason either...but it ain't my problem. But, I don't use Reason/Record that often...and when I do, I just use my own REX files made from Recycle. I understand your criticism. As I pointed out, Beatscape, which was some Cakewalk after though product for Sonar 8, has twice the power of Dr. OctoRex and IT has internal slicing as well as REX support. So yeah, Props should toss it into Reason somewhere (but I wouldn't ever add REX export support if I were them).

I use Live and Sonar 8 PE, and I still like the majority of my custom loops (or any sample CD loops I get) to all be in REX format for maximum flexibility across all my REX compatible platforms.

Recycle is just insanely useful.

 

[[F_or_DEAF]]

wow...w/ all these advances in technology, them BULLSHYT ASS BUM BEETS need to CEASE.

today is a great day to be a Propellerhead customer.

 

[Focused]

wow...w/ all these advances in technology, them BULLSHYT ASS BUM BEETS need to CEASE.

today is a great day to be a Propellerhead customer.

Agreed, theres no excuses today.

 

[mrgibbs]

You know whats so bad people have all these features yet todays music sucks lol. But anyway to danoc yeah im loving the new features that are included in the combinator and the time stretch feature is on point and its so simple and quick.

 

[neverenoughfunk]

You know whats so bad people have all these features yet todays music sucks lol.

i think the individuals with the deals music sucks...

there are tons of talent individuals out there...

 

[Xabiton]

You guys chopping methods are a lil different from mines, I use to chop on the MPC then I found out about Recycle, I think Akai bit off Props Recycle because Recycle was out before the MPC2000 and 2000XL, I just wasn't computer based yet. I have to learn what you guys are talking about it doesn't hurt to learn a new method, it sounds dope, I think what I see in my head and what you guys are writing fits but I would love to see that in action on a video. Just so I can get it exactly what you mean.

Think Dj Premier. He is great at this. 9th wonder has a beat video on youtube doing this too idk any links for these off top

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z


First of all I never said Reason was a DAW. Second I know vst's are seperate apps, but who says you need vst's to record? Most daws include Fx packages and instrument libraries. Third, I never bashed emulations just told you it was a simple emulation, and Yes Waves SSL and Neve plugins are also emulations... So? They are a lot better emulations.








lol Naw son! YOU just made yourself sound silly with all that name dropping
But Im a reply to it anyways. First off all, I see you are still running a 2.4 dualcore.. That pretty much explains why you think a DAW can't run 16 high quality vst's 35 audio tracks and Fx on the tracks. And there is a HUGE difference between 16 of your favourite Vst's and a crappy malström, an ancient nnxt a and one of the worst Eq's I've ever heard. And those Line6 plugins didnt make things any better. Plus who said you need the whole Diamond bundle?.. There are a lot of gems to be found in the vst world.. even free . As far as using record... I've been a reason user since 2.5 (around '03 but dont quote me on that) I was a beta tester for Record. Can't say I really dug in to it though, but I AM aware of its capabilities.


And by the way jim jones and uncle murder are some of the wackest in the game right now.

Take this arguement to PM thanks

 

[Trusty]

Does anyone know if the sampling features in Reason can resample from within Reason?

 

[kb420]

Take this arguement to PM thanks

Don't make them do that. I was enjoying that!!!

 

[Xabiton]

thanks but on that point I like to see my sample and chop 100% precise. I have noticed when I use to chop by ear and then put that sample in an editor and look at it, my ear was off, then I had to trim it to make it precise, so I like to see my sample. is the NNXT getting the site editor as well where you can see what your chopping or is that in the Kong Joint? ANYONE?

its not module specific. basically the modules have a sample button and then samples go to the tool. if u sample from the module (nnxt, nn19, redrum, kong dont matter) then it will go to the key/pad that u sampled to originally unless u assign otherwise. to me though its easier just to load the samples from the audio pool

 

[_SG_]

As I pointed out, Beatscape, which was some Cakewalk after though product for Sonar 8, has twice the power of Dr. OctoRex and IT has internal slicing as well as REX support..

I use Live and Sonar 8 PE, and I still like the majority of my custom loops (or any sample CD loops I get) to all be in REX format for maximum flexibility across all my REX compatible platforms.

Recycle is just insanely useful.

You know I mixed an mixtape on sonar on someone's home studio once before, I always loved how I just clicked with it in the aspect of mixing, some really great fx plugs were included. Never got to try out 8 though, haven't kept up. I'm going to check out that beatscape.

Yeah I understand the value of recycle when you want to have one format for loops that is can be used across all your software.

 

[Xabiton]

Looks DOPE!!!



Only one question as i understand in this we can only assign sounds to16 pads, no more banks A,B,C or i didn't understand right?

idk where they got that from u can layer pretty deep into kong

 

[mrgibbs]

think dj premier. He is great at this. 9th wonder has a beat video on youtube doing this too idk any links for these off top

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take this arguement to pm thanks

as you see i didnt' even respond to him but its not point i'll keep it moving. The thread was good until he came in here with the silly statements and assumptions.

 

[_SG_]

idk where they got that from u can layer pretty deep into kong

There is a difference in layering sounds and having multiple banks available.

Does anyone know if the sampling features in Reason can resample from within Reason?

Looks like live sampling is limited to an external audio source, although if you had record you bounce to disk and then that'd be in the sample pool right, which could then be edited, or am I wrong on this?

 

[mrgibbs]

Does anyone know if the sampling features in Reason can resample from within Reason?

to answer your question trusty yes you can resample from within reason. you just have to change the routing of your sampling input at the top of the hardware rack.

 

[Trusty]

You know I mixed an mixtape on sonar on someone's home studio once before, I always loved how I just clicked with it in the aspect of mixing, some really great fx plugs were included. Never got to try out 8 though, haven't kept up. I'm going to check out that beatscape.

Yeah I understand the value of recycle when you want to have one format for loops that is can be used across all your software.

Sonar is set up to mimic a hardware studio so much that it is easy to get on with it because of its layout.

Sonar 8.5 is sweet. I think I prefer it to Live for composition...so Live may just be a "live" and remix tool for me. I tried to make it my "all-in-one", but didn't work out...I still preferred mixing and mastering in Sonar. Still, Live is nicer with rewiring Reason than Sonar is though...Rewire is too painless in Live to be discounted.

Anyway, Beatscape has 16 slots with 16 individual outputs plus the master stereo output. Any pad can be routed to any output. It has internal slicing for wav files for each slot or it can load REX files. It has awesome effects from Rapture/Dimension Pro as well as the step generators from Rapture to tweak each slot for pan, volume, pitch, cutoff, and resonance, has various parameter controls plus three effect slots per pad slot. When you click on each slot, the keybed at the bottom gives you one key for the loop and also keys for the individual slices. Even with the new Groove Matrix view in Sonar 8.5 which can load REX files...Beatscape is still an awesome instrument to be used in conjunction with the matrix. I use it in Live too. It is a good instrument in its own right.

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to answer your question trusty yes you can resample from within reason. you just have to change the routing of your sampling input at the top of the hardware rack.

Nice. That will be lots of fun. They did say you can sample all this stuff live without ever stopping the engine didn't they?