DiaboliC
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I hope the offical release gives us more features
propellerheads are soon gonna announce something new/ The Reason 5 thread
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So wait a minute... no library upgrade with this??? no new presets at all?????
Damn. I might have to skip this then...
Damn. I might have to skip this then...
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Xabiton
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Thats one way of looking at it. I see it from a totally different pov. Personally this is what I have always wanted Reason to be anyway. And I love Reason. I am not a big fan of VST or most Daws. People have been asking for real audio recording in Reason since it first came out. I am glad to see its finally here. I would still like to see midi out but this is enough for me to be happy for some time.Tomorrow the KONG DRUM DESIGNER will be revealed. Its a sampler/drumsynth with built in Fx and 16 pads.
The way i see it Reason 5 will be the biggest let down this year. Fanboys are too busy celebrating to see that the props are giving them functions they have been asking for for 4 years (audio in).
NO library update and NO Fx updates. And they also had the nerve to update the one device that that least needed update. Octorex is a JOKE.
If you give a starving man a cracker, he'll be ever gratefull. And that's exactly what the props are doing. They are skimming on functionality to keep users hungry, feeding them that same old BS about making the best of what you got for the sake of "stability". When 90& of the tracks you are hearing on the radio were made with REAL DAW's and "unstable" plugins. But dont get me wrong, I love ReasonJust hate the marketing strategies.
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how many presets do you really need? there are hundreds of vsts out there forget more presets I like what is on the table
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they wont except for tap tempo. Focus' link was on point. That is all of the features. Kong is dope though it has a drum synth inside that I am really liking. The sample editor is great too
DiaboliC
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I'm sure there will be new presets for octo Rex and king Kong joint
Remember beta don't Include all presets
Anyway Sample time with reasons offical I believe
Recycle will get a new update making it crazy
Remember beta don't Include all presets
Anyway Sample time with reasons offical I believe
Recycle will get a new update making it crazy
mrgibbs
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it amazes how much of these features make making music so more easier. unlike most daws that never change there workflow they add features but never update the whole workflow like blocks mode or live sampling. there more features you just have to use it to fully understand. most people always looks for new devices which is great but alot of times people assume that there is no routing capabilites when it comes to reason the possibilities are endless now i can mangle audio the same way i mangle reason sounds and devices. i can route cv connection to audio. i can time stretch audio clips and not the just the regular way that record time stretches. there are updates to the redrum, nn19, nnxt, dr.rex, combintor the sequencer, new devices, (new devices come with new sound library) new tool window. audio pool, blocks, new fx, tap tempo i dont think people realize how big of update reason 5 is. oh yeah to world wide how many presets do you really need are you one of those people who rely on presets than actually making your own sounds your self.. most vst users that i know just use presets and never do any tweaking.
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Just got back to see all the updates, this feature is probably the one I care the most about, but I don't know if it's enough. Even with the updates because you can't slice easily (i believe in the video is said loop points, and delition, no slicing right?) I wouldn't personally choose to sample in this over something like ableton live or logic. Still though, makes some things ALOT easier, and is the update I probably care the most about so far.
I have a question though, does this mean now I can import an audio file in reason (not talking about record here) and open the audio editor to make changes to it? Or does it have to be a sample that I live sampled?
I have a question though, does this mean now I can import an audio file in reason (not talking about record here) and open the audio editor to make changes to it? Or does it have to be a sample that I live sampled?
mrgibbs
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yes you can import audio files into reason as long as its a wav, aiff file.soundfount anything except mp3.and slicing or ssampling is a breeze in reason 5. what amazes me that you never hear mpc user complaing about chopping sample nor asr10 user either. software users are the biggest complainers on the planet lol. chopping sample is the same as mpc series maybe even better.
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DaNOC
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Yes I know I can import but just to be clear can I use the new audio editor for imported sounds, or is it only limited to sounds you live sampled from a microphone or audio source?
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mobetta
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I hear the reason 5 beta is just a demo version, no save/load functions, any truth to this?
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mars
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Not saying that a library update was necessary but just saying "Why do they need to update when they have a proprietary format you can spend lots of money on" isn't a reason why they shouldn't have updated, at least in my opinion.
mrgibbs
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you can use it for any file that inside of reason sampler so if you import a audio you can use the audio editor for any of the sounds.
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the beta is supposed to be a demo why would want to save files that have potiental bugz in the program. you can load old songs though.
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Alright thanks.
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I know... I don't really NEED any more presets... but I'm just looking for a reason (pun! HA-ha!) to upgrade from 4, and they just aren't giving me one.
I sequence totally in Ableton Live. I only use Reason as a sound module. All of these updates are either updates to a sequencer I don't use, or things that Live can already do.
I love Reason, and I really want to be excited about this, but they just aren't giving me anything here.
neverenoughfunk
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name a few DAW where they did not update the workflow..
you should realize that this is your workflow. not every songwriter, producer, beatmaker wants to be a sound design. there are some who just want to write songs.
allot of these updates/features are catch up...
you are right about "some" vsti user not wanting/liking to tweak there sounds "all the time". if i call up a bass patch i do not want to bring in a scream machine, eq, delay (maybe) or chorus (maybe) too. i just want to lay down a bass part and then go to the next instrument instead of building another instrument...
that building of instruments in Reason is a workflow killer...
in my opinion...
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Reason/Record is a great scratch pad tool...
kb420
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Someone asked me this the other day, and I told them the same thing. This update doesn't give Reason features that can't already be done in Live, except for Neptune. I'm looking at it like this, for $150 I will get Record and keep my version of Reason current. It's a lot more bang for your buck than buying Record alone.
mrgibbs
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its a workflow killer for you and to me all the devices that were updates to me its not playing catch up. maybe for you but not for me. i was doing pretty much all the stuff that most of cats were doing in othe daws with reason alone. im not even going to go into what im doing with record. i prefer to create my own sound instead running through a bunch presets. pretty much my clients keep coming back. they say i have a very unique sound thats not like most beatmakers. most people ask where i get my sounds from i tell them i make sounds. im sure about you but most real produders not beatmakers love to tweak that the whole point of being creative and not rely on a preset to make you creative.ok let see logic 8 to logic 9 i didn't see not one workflow update when it came to the sequencer nor did i really see it in pro tool 8 as well. cubase didnt really do any enhancements to there sequencer similar to blocks i will say live is probably the one one that did but i dont use live. logic 9 updated some fx,s no devices were updated, they updated the flex time but that was really the only main update. pro tools updated there 8 which they played catch up with. there vsts or instruments shall i say were not that great. cubase has some really good features but with so many pop up windows that all of these daws have i would say that alone is workflow killer, unlike you i have programmed my midi controller to create insruments in reason, scroll through presets create fx's copy and paste clips mute and solo devices in the sequencer set loop points and tempo changes all from my midi controller i barely every half to use the mouse. and now with additional remote editing feature i'll will be able to do more.
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neverenoughfunk
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there is a Record/Reason sidegrade...
for $169 you get Record and the Reason 5 upgrade...
basically getting Record for $40..
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