Wha Chu Mean
New member
Yes its over give up now...
Fruity Loops sucks...
Your song is only going to be hot if Wayne is on it....
Fruity Loops sucks...
Your song is only going to be hot if Wayne is on it....
Trusty
I use reason and logic.
Yeah, for some reason, "hip-hop" is one of the most age discriminating genre's there is. Pop to some extent is the same way (they call aging pop stars "adult contemporary", but its still pop).
Most blue's artists aren't worth a bucket of spit if they are UNDER 35. Most rockers and metal heads (not the pop rock) are in their 30's when they make it.
With hip-hop though, you have to be young (or at least look it and lie) in order to get mainstream consideration, unless you are the Sting of rap and been in it a while (like Jay-Z...easily pushing 40 if not past it, and Dr. Dre is well over 40).
But Sting and Mick Jagger get away with it, not because they were big in their younger years (their mid 20's-30s by the way), but because no one looks down on aging rockers rocking out in clubs and bars...
But watch out, a rapper in a club or bar doing a show that's over 30...well, people hate on it.
I'm 32, I'll still go perform a show if I feel like it. Though, my musical interested are more diversified now than they were at 24, and I started at 17. I don't think I will ever stop with music. To much to explore, and things keep getting more fun, and the new tools are too cool not to work with.
I think rap music misses a huge market by not catering to the middle-aged crowd...I don't want to hear Soulja Boy, and neither do most people my age. Which is why I can still listen to Big Boi, or Tech N9ne, or whoever. Middle-aged rappers have better and more diversified lyrics, AND MIDDLE-AGED PRODUCERS MAKE BETTER, MORE INTERESTING MUSIC, and this is because at a certain age, you reach a certain maturity that causes you to take risks, be more creative, and not sound like a copy-cat chasing a dream.
Anyway, no one says a word about people doing music over a certain age except in hip-hop or pop, and one wonders why the music has gone to poo in the last few years.
The 16-24 demo don't buy records anymore, and the records the 16-24 demo artists make to cater to that demo are garbage.
Finally, I have to disagree with most people here that "making it" is the main motivation for "doing it". If starting out, wanting to "make it" is the main reason, or only reason to be involved in music, then it is failure before liftoff.
Besides, these days, a producer (or artist for that matter), even with occasional major placements, aren't gonna make much more money than they would doing something else in the long run...and many end up broke anyway after the run is over, so what difference did it make when all said and done besides a few years of fun?
Even Timbaland charges way less than he did a few years ago. And Tech N9ne, pushing 40, still makes way more real money doing it independently than most come and go popular rap artists you see on MTV.
There are many options in this thing...but I have to disagree with the "gotta grind it out" mindset people here talk about. My advice is perfect your craft, and work smarter, not harder.
Legal Dollaz
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Agree 100%...2009 Hip Hop has almost totally abandoned the 26-42 FEMALE age demographic and the album sales # are proof as the Hip Hop genre has suffered the deepest decline in sales. In the 90's you had groups like Outkast, ATCQ, Fugees, etc...that a 35 year old woman could enjoy along with the 17 year old kid. Now that 35 year old woman has to 'keep it old school' by playing those hits from the past or keep it strictly R&B, soul, etc...So in order to recapture the demo the new cats have to be 'rap hybrid' acts (Drake/Cudi) that can blur the hip hop/soul/pop lines