Mainboi23SX
My Man...
The NN-XT is amazing you can create a whole beat just using one NN-XT device.
The whole ish sounds like ARMY BS to me.Mainboi23SX said:The NN-XT is amazing you can create a whole beat just using one NN-XT device.
no time stretchBonz said:Does Reason have any sort of time stretch feature?
Now there friggin' are some opchenz.Xabiton said:no time stretch
Point is: YOU still got no point lol.Sqito said:Now there friggin' are some opchenz.
What's your problem?
Point is: YOU still got no point lol.Sqito said:Now there friggin' are some opchenz.
What's your problem?
It would be boring if not, wouldn't it? ^^Mainboi23SX said:There are really some weird people in FP and outside of FP, wow.
This statement makes no sense yet I hear it all the time. First off if the Props weren't so lazy and added new synths and upgraded the samplers people wouldn't ask for VST support. Second VST support would not affect stability because guess what, if a certain VST were to make Reason unstable all you would have to do to maintain stability is not use it. I don't care for VST implementation, but if Props upgraded in a timely fashion there would be afr fewer call for this.Xabiton said:If u want vsts dont use Reason tryin to screw up my stability because u wont sit down and throw a few fx on your sounds.l
It isn't, and I plan to get a dual core soon. I truly hope that people like you aren't what's holding back Reason. All this crying about using little processing power is annoying, when technology is increasing by leaps and bounds and Reason is barely crawling(Reason still isn't optimised for multi-core use and the devices still can't be enlarged properly making little use of a dual 22" LCD monitor setup).kingace said:if your computer is slow like mine
I agree with everything the OP said, Reason has become a joke. I'm tired of hearing the lies about Steinberg preventing them from implementing audio or the cries of avoiding certain improvements in order to retain low processor usage when quad-cores are around the corner. It’s also quite sad to see so many people defend the pathetic lack of progress every time an issue with Reason is brought up.
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Truthfully there is no excuse for this, even programs that were far behind Reason such as FL & Ableton have virtually surpassed Reason in every aspect. The only problem I had that kept me from leaving Reason earlier was the fact that I have so many Refills and Props refuse to open the refill format so that I can use Refills in other sequencers such as Cubase, however this problem was bypassed with a certain program.
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Forget about new modules, filters and audio, how about upgrading the sequencer? You can’t even directly insert audio into it. What is the excuse for having such a pathetic, sequencer that has never been upgraded? I cannot think of any reason except for abject neglect.
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Unlike many of you I spoke to a Propellerhead rep in person over a year ago, and the answers that he gave me to Reason's shortfalls were pathetic. He basically tried to make ReWire the end all solution when it clearly is not. He also tried to claim that I would be impressed by the upgrades to Reason, but looking at how much the competition has advanced and how much Reason has improved in past updates, I basically believe that it is impossible for them to catch up.
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I don't really understand the European business mindset, they clearly ignore what their customers want, and for what? The end result will be that Propellerhead Software will go out of business or they will be bought by a larger company, hopefully the latter of the two, but I don't see any other possible outcomes at this point.
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The Propellerhead team is failing in every aspect, the Refill format was cracked, the competition has arguably surpassed them, they refuse to upgrade their primary product ways that will generate more revenue, and they release essentially worthless side offerings (various Refills, company branded clothes, etc), ignoring their primary customer base. I will still use Reason (although much less) simply because I have it, but it would take a miraculous major improvement to convince me to upgrade.
any host ive ever used with vsts has always been very unstable I am going with that feeling that vsts are unstable. Ive never had that issue with Rewire. Personally I think reason has more than enough modules to make whatever you want people are just greedy.fireman_x said:This statement makes no sense yet I hear it all the time. First off if the Props weren't so lazy and added new synths and upgraded the samplers people wouldn't ask for VST support. Second VST support would not affect stability because guess what, if a certain VST were to make Reason unstable all you would have to do to maintain stability is not use it. I don't care for VST implementation, but if Props upgraded in a timely fashion there would be afr fewer call for this.
How are people greedy that puchase a program and updates with specific goals in mind?Xabiton said:Personally I think reason has more than enough modules to make whatever you want people are just greedy.
Any sound that I have wanted to create I have been able to in Reason. To me its all about know how with whatever it is that you are using. People should spend more time learning how to make their interface work for them and less time wishing their interface did something it wont. Everything in Reason works and it works well. Audio in atleast to me is a waste of time and thats probabaly because I have no use for it. Midi out could be useful but the direction of the industry is going to software and props have been saying for a while that they will not support hardware any longer. They dropped hardware support for Recycle even simply because software is the future. I like a lot of other programs too and I am not saying Reason is the best thing since sliced bread but to say Reason is lacking in something its supposed to have is just something I cannot agree with.fireman_x said:How are people greedy that puchase a program and updates with specific goals in mind?
Have you ever tried Zeta+, nothing in Reason comes close. I could also name a dozen other synths but what is the point? VST's may cause a sequencer to crash but that is usually only if the VST was badly coded (as is sometimes the case with free VST's), or a person tries to push the VST pash their system's capabilities. VST's in general do not make anything unstable as should be evident with the majority of software using music producers using VST's.
The bottom line is that people want more from Reason and are not receiving it. I've been paying much more attention to Live, checking out their forums, watching videos off the site and I will check out the demo when I have time. Ableton seems to actually listen to their customers, whereas Propellerhead does not. People that say Reason can do "everything" are either foolishly boasting out of ignorance or their production so limited or simplistic to the point where Reason is actually enough in its current state (note: this is in the general sense and not directed necessarily at you).
I don't understand how people can become complacent and not expect their progress in producing to stagnate. Reason should have implemented audio in, midi out and upgraded the sequencer years ago. The truth is from a business sense you give you customers what they want and Propellerhead knows exactly what people want (since they've been asking for years), but they refuse to comply. That was fine in the past since there was no real competition within the same price range, however like my last post stated Live and FL are both going to take away further market share if Propellerhead refuses to upgrade Reason in a fashion that their customers request.
Xabiton said:any host ive ever used with vsts has always been very unstable I am going with that feeling that vsts are unstable. Ive never had that issue with Rewire. Personally I think reason has more than enough modules to make whatever you want people are just greedy.
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:It amazes me how everything on this site is bashed by people who apparently don't know the ins and outs of what they're attacking. Zt3a+ better than reason? Wow. I could've understood you saying better than the Malstrom or Subtractor, but that's just opinion.
All this update talk is rediculous. I've had my MPC2000XL since like 2000 no major updates(just new sound libs), and it's still one of the most sought after pieces of equipment today.
Anyone who has been using reason knows how to fit it in their workfow perfectly. People use it alongside and MPC or Triton and let the hardware handle sequencing and samples. Use it inside Cubase or Pro Tools the same way then you can add your plug ins. Every program doesn't have to be the ultimate workstation. Reason has damn good sounds, amazing effects, and is worth every penny of $300 - 400 as is. If you use it as an all in one production program you get lots out of it as well. But for all the thousands of happy customers they have, there will always be one or 2 who want more.
But dayum. Does everything have to have something wrong with it on FP? Why isn't the solid reliable sound module it's become famous for being good enough? Somebody tell me, what should I replace my futile program Reason with? Please don't tell me the Z3TA+ you can't be serious.
Xabiton said:Any sound that I have wanted to create I have been able to in Reason. To me its all about know how with whatever it is that you are using. People should spend more time learning how to make their interface work for them and less time wishing their interface did something it wont. Everything in Reason works and it works well. Audio in atleast to me is a waste of time and thats probabaly because I have no use for it. <st1>lace w:st="on">Midi</st1>lace> out could be useful but the direction of the industry is going to software and props have been saying for a while that they will not support hardware any longer. They dropped hardware support for Recycle even simply because software is the future. I like a lot of other programs too and I am not saying Reason is the best thing since sliced bread but to say Reason is lacking in something its supposed to have is just something I cannot agree with.
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:It amazes me how everything on this site is bashed by people who apparently don't know the ins and outs of what they're attacking. Zt3a+ better than reason? Wow. I could've understood you saying better than the Malstrom or Subtractor, but that's just opinion.
All this update talk is rediculous. I've had my MPC2000XL since like 2000 no major updates(just new sound libs), and it's still one of the most sought after pieces of equipment today.
Anyone who has been using reason knows how to fit it in their workfow perfectly. People use it alongside and MPC or Triton and let the hardware handle sequencing and samples. Use it inside Cubase or Pro Tools the same way then you can add your plug ins. Every program doesn't have to be the ultimate workstation. Reason has damn good sounds, amazing effects, and is worth every penny of $300 - 400 as is. If you use it as an all in one production program you get lots out of it as well. But for all the thousands of happy customers they have, there will always be one or 2 who want more.
But dayum. Does everything have to have something wrong with it on FP? Why isn't the solid reliable sound module it's become famous for being good enough? Somebody tell me, what should I replace my futile program Reason with? Please don't tell me the Z3TA+ you can't be serious.