Why Doesn't Anyone Dig Anymore

i dont have to understand anything sometimes u just gotta step ur grind up. i hear what ur sayin Ive been there myself. But at the end of the day its on u either ur gonna do it or ur not. The business don't feel sorry for u so why should I? Sympathy will get u no where ya dig
 
Xabiton said:
i dont have to understand anything sometimes u just gotta step ur grind up. i hear what ur sayin Ive been there myself. But at the end of the day its on u either ur gonna do it or ur not. The business don't feel sorry for u so why should I? Sympathy will get u no where ya dig
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I WASN'T ASKING FOR YA SYMPATHY, LOL!!

SOME PEOPLE SIMPLY AREN'T IN THE POSITION TO BUY THINGS AT THE DROP OF THE DIME. I PLAN TO COP EVERYTHING I NEED IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT WHAT ABOUT UNTIL THEN?

DO MY FLIPS NOT COUNT BECAUSE I GET MY HEAT FROM THE INTERNET, OR SOME OTHER NON-VINYL SOURCE? OF COURSE THEY DO..THE FACT THAT I USE MP3S DOSEN'T PREVENT ME FROM DEMONSTRATING MY SKILLZ, IS THE POINT..

SAY TWO PEOPLE FLIP THE SAME SAMPLE, ONE OF THEM RIPPED DIRECTLY FROM THE VINYL AND THE OTHER AN MP3..WHAT IF THE PERSON WHO USEDSTHE HIGH-QUALITY VINYL SAMPLE SUCKS AT CHOPPING, CAN'T ARRANGE MUSIC FOR SHYT? AND THE CAT WHO USES THE MP3 FLIPS IT SICK AS HELL, EVEN THOUGH IT LACKS QUALITY..WHICH ONE WOULD YOU RATHER LISTEN TO? I THINK YOU SEE WHAT I'M GETTIN' AT............
 
like I said, I BUY RECORDS OFF OF THE INTERNET. Sometimes I am looking for a particular artist and cant find them on vinyl in my town and then I google them. Folks are selling good stuff on the net, I bought a stack of records for 15 bucks!!
 
Xabiton said:
Everyone seems to download everything nowadays. Its a shame that this is the digging forum and nobody digs. Whats up with that?
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Yall need to listen to this cat FA REAL.I do my share of e-diggin but only for the rarest of the rare and i have ACTUAL RECORDS.I have about 200 records i need to go thru and when thoses are done im goin to find some more.I made beats with vinyl samples and mp3 samples BIG DIFFERENCE.All u new jacks need to get up off your ass and go find some records. At least find the actual record that your downloadin Alchemist does that.Every record is not gonna be on the net remember that
 
Music is:
30% sound
70% underlying inspiration

Question??? You Are Artists arnt you!
Thanks to multimedia artists can thrive in technology.
Seriously, art is not about what you use. Its what comes from your music.

Vinal has many tones and really good resolution. With lively samples you can call it character.

The internet is cool for brainstorming that movie clip or what ever but you lose the nuance and it becomes less interesting art as a whole.

People need to learn mre about art and how it is about messages What message could you send with compressed digital noise that would pass or art???
You want digital Go all out but get good at it make it clear that is your medium. dont be a half assed lazy kid, like 99% of people with computer, sayin you make music. Cuz you dont.
 
I think that most of the "sound" of vinyl is a placebo effect that producers and vinylphiles use to warrent the purchase of it. Vinyl doesnt have the fidelity and clearness of a CD or high bit MP3. Come on, ya'll cool down the vinyl-fetish. A MP3 rendered at 320 kbps is clear as day and easier to chop visually. CDs are the same case, plus when I buy vinyl I am rendering it to 320 MP3 aways. I do hear a small hum when I record it, adds a bit of character, but I could add that with a VST effect too. Sorry ya'll, vinyl is cool but it takes up space and takes up time. Most of the time, I already know what I am looking for and I find it at a vendor online for a fair price. Hell, I have even use the CDs my parents have for my sampling. WHAT IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

PEACE
 
Marol said:
I think that most of the "sound" of vinyl is a placebo effect that producers and vinylphiles use to warrent the purchase of it. Vinyl doesnt have the fidelity and clearness of a CD or high bit MP3. Come on, ya'll cool down the vinyl-fetish. A MP3 rendered at 320 kbps is clear as day and easier to chop visually. CDs are the same case, plus when I buy vinyl I am rendering it to 320 MP3 aways. I do hear a small hum when I record it, adds a bit of character, but I could add that with a VST effect too. Sorry ya'll, vinyl is cool but it takes up space and takes up time. Most of the time, I already know what I am looking for and I find it at a vendor online for a fair price. Hell, I have even use the CDs my parents have for my sampling. WHAT IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

PEACE
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The thing about vinyl (at least for me) isn't just the sound its the whole experience of digging. Its like a sub culture of hip hop and unless your into it you don't really get it.

I can spend hours in a nice spot, spend weeks getting to know the staff a little. I love the feel and the smell of the records, in my brain it associates with making music.. It just puts me in the mood, its porn for your ears, fingers and nose.

Other sources are cool, not knocking em I use em to. But vinyl is special.
 
booma_Musik said:
I WASN'T ASKING FOR YA SYMPATHY, LOL!!

SOME PEOPLE SIMPLY AREN'T IN THE POSITION TO BUY THINGS AT THE DROP OF THE DIME. I PLAN TO COP EVERYTHING I NEED IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT WHAT ABOUT UNTIL THEN?

DO MY FLIPS NOT COUNT BECAUSE I GET MY HEAT FROM THE INTERNET, OR SOME OTHER NON-VINYL SOURCE? OF COURSE THEY DO..THE FACT THAT I USE MP3S DOSEN'T PREVENT ME FROM DEMONSTRATING MY SKILLZ, IS THE POINT..

SAY TWO PEOPLE FLIP THE SAME SAMPLE, ONE OF THEM RIPPED DIRECTLY FROM THE VINYL AND THE OTHER AN MP3..WHAT IF THE PERSON WHO USEDSTHE HIGH-QUALITY VINYL SAMPLE SUCKS AT CHOPPING, CAN'T ARRANGE MUSIC FOR SHYT? AND THE CAT WHO USES THE MP3 FLIPS IT SICK AS HELL, EVEN THOUGH IT LACKS QUALITY..WHICH ONE WOULD YOU RATHER LISTEN TO? I THINK YOU SEE WHAT I'M GETTIN' AT............
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if this person was really talented id tell him/her to sell a beat and buy a turntable and stop maing excuses

Marol said:
I think that most of the "sound" of vinyl is a placebo effect that producers and vinylphiles use to warrent the purchase of it. Vinyl doesnt have the fidelity and clearness of a CD or high bit MP3. Come on, ya'll cool down the vinyl-fetish. A MP3 rendered at 320 kbps is clear as day and easier to chop visually. CDs are the same case, plus when I buy vinyl I am rendering it to 320 MP3 aways. I do hear a small hum when I record it, adds a bit of character, but I could add that with a VST effect too. Sorry ya'll, vinyl is cool but it takes up space and takes up time. Most of the time, I already know what I am looking for and I find it at a vendor online for a fair price. Hell, I have even use the CDs my parents have for my sampling. WHAT IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

PEACE
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thats the point. it doesn't sound sterile like a cd or a mp3. I hate that crystal clear sound personally. Vinyl has more bottom to it. I like the character that it adds. Imo Vinyl sounds way better than cds and mp3s

noblewordz said:
The thing about vinyl (at least for me) isn't just the sound its the whole experience of digging. Its like a sub culture of hip hop and unless your into it you don't really get it.

I can spend hours in a nice spot, spend weeks getting to know the staff a little. I love the feel and the smell of the records, in my brain it associates with making music.. It just puts me in the mood, its porn for your ears, fingers and nose.

Other sources are cool, not knocking em I use em to. But vinyl is special.
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co sign. Vinyl is very special and not everything on vinyl can be found on cd most certainly not mp3. Vinyl is the oldest mainstream medium. You can't find obscure recordings from the 40s on cd or mp3 like you can on vinyl.
 
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Xabiton said:
if this person was really talented id tell him/her to sell a beat and buy a turntable and stop maing excuses


thats the point. it doesn't sound sterile like a cd or a mp3. I hate that crystal clear sound personally. Vinyl has more bottom to it. I like the character that it adds. Imo Vinyl sounds way better than cds and mp3s


co sign. Vinyl is very special and not everything on vinyl can be found on cd most certainly not mp3. Vinyl is the oldest mainstream medium. You can't find obscure recordings from the 40s on cd or mp3 like you can on vinyl.
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That is if you get a "good" pressing of a record. Alot of the records I have gone and bought at stores arent the best in terms of quality. Sometimes the bass seems out of phase on so so pressings, compared the CD version, making it seem quieter than the CD. Sometimes the highs to too harsh sounding on a so so pressing and I have to LP filter them out, CDs I RARELY do this. CDs are already digital, which seems to lower the chance that jittering affects the recording (using Edison) and archiving. Also, CDs and MP3s are easy as hell to transport around when I go places, I like that since sometimes I get inspired to make a beat at the park. Trust me, I know the experiance of going to a record shop, finding the this rare and overlooked record, and talking to the people there about music. I love it and I see the attractiveness of that lifestyle, but on a practical tip, it doesnt factor in as much as CDs and MP3s.

PEACE
 
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Marol said:
That is if you get a "good" pressing of a record. Alot of the records I have gone and bought at stores arent the best in terms of quality. Sometimes the bass seems out of phase on so so pressings, compared the CD version, making it seem quieter than the CD. Sometimes the highs to too harsh sounding on a so so pressing and I have to LP filter them out, CDs I RARELY do this. CDs are already digital, which seems to lower the chance that jittering affects the recording (using Edison) and archiving. Also, CDs and MP3s are easy as hell to transport around when I go places, I like that since sometimes I get inspired to make a beat at the park. Trust me, I know the experiance of going to a record shop, finding the this rare and overlooked record, and talking to the people there about music. I love it and I see the attractiveness of that lifestyle, but on a practical tip, it doesnt factor in as much as CDs and MP3s.

PEACE
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yea cds and mp3s are more practical ill give u that. But quality is always subjective too. For instance u have already stated that u like a cleaner clearer sound. I only like clean clear vocals. I like gritty drums and samples lo resolution drums and the like. Chris Brown's without you bugs the hell out of me because it is sterile. This kinda goes into the whole digital vs analog arguement tho as far as sound source is concerned. A cd version of thriller vs a vinyl version of thriller will sound different. Id likely take the vinyl I think you would take the cd.
 
Xabiton said:
yea cds and mp3s are more practical ill give u that. But quality is always subjective too. For instance u have already stated that u like a cleaner clearer sound. I only like clean clear vocals. I like gritty drums and samples lo resolution drums and the like. Chris Brown's without you bugs the hell out of me because it is sterile. This kinda goes into the whole digital vs analog arguement tho as far as sound source is concerned. A cd version of thriller vs a vinyl version of thriller will sound different. Id likely take the vinyl I think you would take the cd.
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Honestly with me it is all about control. Digital I seem to have more control over than the analog format. I still sample from vinyl when ever I want that gritty sound. Hell, sometimes for drums I dirty up an overused cheap record and cut the drums off of it. I guess to each its own with this debate.


PS I have the vinyl version of Thriller, IT SOUNDS AMAZING!!


PEACE

:cheers:
 
Marol said:
Honestly with me it is all about control. Digital I seem to have more control over than the analog format. I still sample from vinyl when ever I want that gritty sound. Hell, sometimes for drums I dirty up an overused cheap record and cut the drums off of it. I guess to each its own with this debate.


PS I have the vinyl version of Thriller, IT SOUNDS AMAZING!!


PEACE

:cheers:
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I had the vinyl version and its on my pc now as a mp3. it still sounds amazing. I think my pov comes from being a digger before being a sampler. If u only buy records to sample vs buying records because you love hearing music you have never heard before or finding that drum break nobody else has and putting it on my own track. Likely because I learned to dig from old school djs. I share a lot of their values because after all digging comes from the dj culture. They wanted all the records nobody else had so they could rock parties with the sh*t nobody else had and as a dj you are only as good as what you play. I think the same comes with sampling. You are only as good as the samples you choose to use. Yes u can flip the same samples and make a good track but its like people remaking Whitney Houston on American Idol. No matter how much of you you put on the record I am always going to compare it to Whitney and you are adding to her fame not your own. Atleast in my opinion.
 
I love to go crate diggin' because you might just find some gem that nobody even know are out there. I mainly only download if I hear a sample and just want to see if I can flip it but I try and find my ish to sample which is hard seeing that almost everything has been flipped already.
 
Xabiton said:
I had the vinyl version and its on my pc now as a mp3. it still sounds amazing. I think my pov comes from being a digger before being a sampler. If u only buy records to sample vs buying records because you love hearing music you have never heard before or finding that drum break nobody else has and putting it on my own track. Likely because I learned to dig from old school djs. I share a lot of their values because after all digging comes from the dj culture. They wanted all the records nobody else had so they could rock parties with the sh*t nobody else had and as a dj you are only as good as what you play. I think the same comes with sampling. You are only as good as the samples you choose to use. Yes u can flip the same samples and make a good track but its like people remaking Whitney Houston on American Idol. No matter how much of you you put on the record I am always going to compare it to Whitney and you are adding to her fame not your own. Atleast in my opinion.
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sounds like simon
 
ill crate dig all day...alot more soul in vinyl...they got anything on vinyl lol,willliam flanders,manfred manns earthband,percy faith..i could go on all day....ill dig all day for samples...
 
true..digging is fun, but the internet is CRAZY for finding samples..I still dig every now and then. You can find gems in thrift stores..Don't sleep.
 
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