THIS is why an Executive Producer is NECESSARY...

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j.troup said:
And that's what the fcuk it's about!!!!


I don't give a shit about props. But if anything that I've ever done, be it a success or failure, helps someone else learn and they can take that and flip it into something that's successful for them, THEN THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I DO IT FOR.


I appreciate everything you said, but what I appreciate even more is that something that I did, or said, had enough of an impact on you, that you took that, combined it with what you already had and succeeded with it, in ways that I didn't, and you're making shit happen for yourself.


That's what this FP shit is about. :cheers:
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no doubt man, i def took bits and pieces from what you've presented on here, and tailor made it for what i was doing. And it worked out and all started from just "fan integration"
 
j.troup said:
suicide music comment, wasn't it?
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lol @ "suicide music".

naw, i actually take that as a COMPLIMENT...i specialize in "sorrow" music, just as others specialize in "joy" music; no worries about that -

on a more serious note -

(SOCIAL-PROFESSIONAL context) : i just think that you could be a lot better of an EXAMPLE than you currently are.

the way you conduct yourself online isn't what i'd EXPECT from someone that considers them self a professional.

i find your posts to be more comical than professional, more introverted than extroverted, more selfish than helpful, more "show" than "substance"

i wish you the best in all of your endeavors, but personally - i think your lack of humility, lack of a signature "sound", and lack of a "niche" are going to be the stumbling blocks that will trip you up in the long run; unbeknownst to you.
 
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[F_or_DEAF] said:
lol @ "suicide music".

naw, i actually take that as a COMPLIMENT...i specialize in "sorrow" music, just as others specialize in "joy" music; no worries about that -

on a more serious note -

(SOCIAL-PROFESSIONAL context) : i just think that you could be a lot better of an EXAMPLE than you currently are.

the way you conduct yourself online isn't what i'd EXPECT from someone that considers them self a professional.

i find your posts to be more comical than professional, more introverted than extroverted, more selfish than helpful, more "show" than "substance"

i wish you the best in all of your endeavors, but personally - i think your lack of humility, lack of a signature "sound", and lack of a "niche" are going to be the stumbling blocks that will trip you up in the long run; unbeknownst to you.
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FP is FP. There's an entire world outside of FP. My J.Troup screen name accomplishes exactly what I need it to accomplish. And as long as it continues to achieve my goals, then I'm gonna continue to do me.

Life isn't a tea party.


I'm glad you find my posts comical. That's your right to laugh. But while you're laughing, someone else is learning, and making money. But hey, I aim to entertain as well, so I'm glad I can do that for you.



I don't lack humility. But I do have an off the charts level of self confidence, and believe that I can conquer anything I set my eyes upon. God told me that. And if that's arrogant, then hey...but there are no limits in this world for me. Shit, gravity is gon be a TIRED muh****a by the time I die!


Signature sound? I don't need a signature sound where I'm trying to go. That's the thing you still haven't grasped.


I do have a niche. But you're so consumed with me having a SIGNATURE SOUND that you can't see it.





My goal is INFLUENCE. Cuz that's the currency of THE NEW MUSIC INDUSTRY
 
F seriously, you need to calm down with all the bull..

you just got shitted on and i bet troup stay reading the book in this pic
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j.troup said:
I do have an off the charts level of self confidence, and believe that I can conquer anything I set my eyes upon. God told me that. And if that's arrogant, then hey...but there are no limits in this world for me. Shit, gravity is gon be a TIRED muh****a by the time I die!
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thats right, there's no limits. we can do anything we set our minds to.

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The name No Ceilings refers to Lil Wayne's belief that he has "no ceilings", or no limit, to his rapping ability. As he says on Track 11, Skit #2, "I would love for you to look up into the building and understand that there is no ceilings; there is only the sky, and the sky is the limit."
 
j.troup said:
No...this debate started when you decided to SPLIT HAIRS about the FULL DEFINITION of an executive producer.



I never said that my definition was THE ONLY THING AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER did. You decided that I was saying that. That's your fault.


And then when I did clarify myself by saying I was only speaking to the PROJECT MANAGER duties of an Executive Producer as it related to Beans, you decided to continue arguing about the FULL ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES of an Executive Producer.



Looks to me like you just chimed in to try to show that "yours was bigger".



But I hope that your website is getting a lot of hits from me continuing to even engage you in this matter. :)
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I don't care who's is bigger, that's something you made up. You seem to do a lot of that. And for the record, I've only received an extra 50 visits to my site from this debate. Maybe they came from you, maybe they came from my continues response to you. After all, it's my decision to keep posting in this thread.

Anyhow, I'm not debating you for the web visits. I'm debating you to express my views. Maybe yours is bigger, maybe not. This isn't about me or you, so don't turn it into that. It's about helping those who want to accomplish their goals. That was my only reason for posting in this thread. My original goal was to provide readers with more information. It was your decision to take it the way you did. One thing's for certain...

People spend money with those they like more often than with people they dislike, regardless of the brand.
 
j.troup said:
I don't lack humility. But I do have an off the charts level of self confidence, and believe that I can conquer anything I set my eyes upon. God told me that. And if that's arrogant, then hey...but there are no limits in this world for me. Shit, gravity is gon be a TIRED muh****a by the time I die!
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Be careful bro, God didn't tell you to conquer what you set your eyes upon. These word sound more like the word Satan used when trying to get Jesus to worship him.

New International Version (NIV)

Matthew 4:8 - 4:9
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. [SUP]9[/SUP] “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.

Matthew 21:21 -21:22
Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. [SUP]22 [/SUP]If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.”

There's a big difference between faith and self assurance. BEWARE
 
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as20gp said:
you dont like troup because you deal with him every day and you dont like him personally.

everything that troup has done has been one of the firsts to do it on here and even in the industry. He hasnt buckled down and sold his ideas to companies so they can make billions of dollars and cut him out of the pie, you gotta respect it

Troup was the first producer on here endorsing PMP and websites like PMP
Troup was the first cat with interactive production sessions that nobody else has done even to this day
Troup was the first cat on here to link with a company like Open Labs with "no placements" and having that direct access to Victor Wong
Troup was the first producer to come up with a site and system that gave buyers options outside of just "buying a beat" buying drum kits, sounds, session files and things of that nature
First producer i saw to ever use Ustream and integrate it with his site, when Ustream was really a "dead' format for ALL types of media.

all these other producers are playing catch up to shit that Troup is doing/has done, i just think the people dont like troups personality on here
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lol for real.

Troup stay on some forward thinking shit, and if you're a FUTUREProducer that kind of foresight isn't a hindrance at all, easily a benefit. regardless if all of his ideas don't pan out to fruition, the fact he even [thinks beyond what's current] speaks volumes enough.

because honestly, a lot of us are just concerned with making/selling "beetz" -- even though there's nothing wrong with that either.

i mean, Troup's "predictions" overall have more hits than misses if you ask me. when Johnny Juliano started selling $0.99 beats. I stopped questioning Troup because everybody knows he was doing that shit since 2009 at the least.
 
Damn that design almost makes me want to hire troup for some consulting. lol
 
ProducerJC said:
Be careful bro, God didn't tell you to conquer what you set your eyes upon. These word sound more like the word Satan used when trying to get Jesus to worship him.

New International Version (NIV)

Matthew 4:8 - 4:9
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. [SUP]9[/SUP] “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.

Matthew 21:21 -21:22
Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. [SUP]22 [/SUP]If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.”

There's a big difference between faith and self assurance. BEWARE
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[h=3]Philippians 4:13[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]13[/SUP]I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.



Check...and mate.
 
j.troup said:
Philippians 4:13

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]13[/SUP]I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.



Check...and mate.
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That doesn't read anything like God telling you to conquer what you set your eyes on. I'm just saying...

j.troup said:
I don't lack humility. But I do have an off the charts level of self confidence, and believe that I can conquer anything I set my eyes upon. God told me that.
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---------- Post added at 03:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:22 PM ----------

Victory is mine through Christ. There's no need to conquer anything...
 
ProducerJC said:

That doesn't read anything like God telling you to conquer what you set your eyes on. I'm just saying...



---------- Post added at 03:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:22 PM ----------

Victory is mine through Christ. There's no need to conquer anything...
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lol...first you "correct" me on Executive Producer, and now you feel the need to "correct" what God wants me to do???



Are you that in need of some internet validation??? Geez dude.





But I'm not about to turn this into a bible lesson. fataltone does that enough.
 
Troup is the only name i remember from this forum...

well and Fataltone (lol)

so he must be doing something right.

Judging from what i read, he reminds me of a nicer Dame Dash (in his prime) lol.
 
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