Legal Dollaz
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Of course it does, but that depends on whether you look at yourself as a BOSS or as a slave?
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Of course it does, but that depends on whether you look at yourself as a BOSS or as a slave?
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Ron H. Bt Co_founder
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Of course you have the right brutha, but that doesnt mean that what you are saying makes any sense...lol...And having an opinion on something that you clearly know nothing about or even experienced makes none. That was my point. I never said that u were wrong, I said i disagreed with HALF of what you are saying. How does submitting on Blazetrak distract you from branding within the consumer market? And u keep bringing up this competition thing. Everyone on this site (on a whole) is competition for one another because they are all in the same league trying to get to the same place. I repeat, none of our pros view any of you as competition (regardless if you are) their mindsets and egos, and credits dont allow it, so they are more than happy to help you....They sell beats for 99k....you sell beats for 99 cents...it is what it is. Do u think it was easy to ask Darkchild, "instead of using this hour to make a beat that you can sell to Britney Spears for 100k" Spend this hour responding to submissions for $150 a pop (of which you only get a certain percentage of)....Think about it son, what LOGICAL reason can he have for making that decision....does it make monetary sense??? Is it using his time efficiently???? The ONLY logical reason is because he CARES and he WANTS to and he has other businesses that can benefit from YOU....but at the same time he needs to be compensated for his time spent, and he gives you value in return.
As a producer trying to make it.....take the help if its there.... go after the opportunity available. you keep telling these cats, "dont ask for help, do it yourself, dont ask for a lifesaver" Well when you swimming in a ocean with 200 million other cats (myspace) your ass better grab that lifesaver and suck on it.
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Bipso Beatmasta
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929 and still making no sense! "Future Philosophers" dot com...it might be time for you to make that switch and start 2010 off right!
929 and still making no sense! "Future Philosophers" dot com...it might be time for you to make that switch and start 2010 off right!
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Legal Dollaz
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The minute you enter any marketplace selling the same product as another business you are in competition with them EVEN if you goals and objectives is to create a partnership/collab with them. Sometimes even if you do have a partnership there may be a competitive factor involved. Now if your talking about totally falling UNDER someone then thats taking a slave position, which is fine if that's your main objective. But based on the CURRENT state of the music business the PRIORITY should be placed on the BOSS side not the slave side. If you think the artists, producers, musicians and labels are not in competition for marketshare in this business your sadly mistaken.
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well naw...because Legal got me thinking, and he is right.
not only is he right, but once he stated his opinion, you started throwing insults; and - like he said, without even doing your homework first.
sorry, but LEGAL DOLLAZ IS IN THE MUTHAFUKCIN' BUILDING!!!
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Ron H. Bt Co_founder
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You know what, i kinda of agree to this! you are right no one will give you a FREE RIDE....but when your hard works pays of and a TALENT is created, you still need the right person to Witness the talent...people leave families, jobs, move across the country and world because they feel there talent is now at a noticeable level. Blazetrak gives u that platform for the Russel Simmons of the world to see it....for a small fee.
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Bipso Beatmasta
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Here We Go
Here we go! Another one of Legal's beeeeeiiiiiicheeeeessssss. You said and I quote, "Legal got me thinking". If that's the case you will forever be on this board Mr. 4000th post guy!
Here we go! Another one of Legal's beeeeeiiiiiicheeeeessssss. You said and I quote, "Legal got me thinking". If that's the case you will forever be on this board Mr. 4000th post guy!
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that's a god-damn lie. don't think that FP don't know that's a god-damn lie mayne.
Legal Dollaz
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Now you've reached the point of disrespecting the same community your trying to conduct business with. Is that smart for your bottom line or you don't know how the online viral effect works?? If you keep typing with your emotions instead of your intellect you will soon find out. Continue....
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Ron H. Bt Co_founder
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I really dont remember insulting anyone, not really my style, i just state the facts. If you are referring to my ignorant comment, ignorance is a choice and an action. I was speaking in the Websters dictionary context not the just being rude insulting context.
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competitive vs. collaborative???
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PIMPS vs. HOES???
yeah...agree to disagree.
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Ron H. Bt Co_founder
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Lets be clear here 1st of all. I am here representing Blazetrak.com out front and in the open so I would appreciate it if you address ME when talk about Blazetrak. Do not try to pawn it off to someone else because they have a low post count and disagree with you.
I am here.
Thanks
The-Chronics89
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Business is full of "paradoxes" - read this http://www.amazon.com/Strategy-Synthesis-Resolving-Paradoxes-Competitive/dp/0324282729
Legal Dollaz
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If you can't at least keep it real and admit that the other person is affiliated with your site in some shape or form if not you yourself then we can stop right here and end it. We can agree to disagree (not on your business but on general business ideology).
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Ron H. Bt Co_founder
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Sorry for this post being totally unrelated to the thread, but...
Legal Dollaz, I've been wanting to ask you a question if you don't mind. You've talked about how money's going to be the new filter. What would you suggest a young cat (who's not looking for a come up or to be put on "coz his beetz are phat and he wants a maybach") do in this day and age, business wise. I'm working on perfecting my craft (a process that only ends at death imo), but on the business side, what should an 18 year old with little money do?
I would also like this question answered Legal Dollaz. What are you doing to make yourself successful or help others? Or are you doing either? You have a young 18 year old kid here asking for help. Are u willing to help him with some real tangible knowledge, or is he your competition? Something that he can actually go and apply or just your "Help yourself" line. Give this guy something to take away, not brochure like u get at a music conference.
Here is my advice to you kid, keep perfecting your craft...get better and better. When you think you have something worthwhile, ask mom or dad for $40 get that $40 and submit to Raheem DeVaughn on Blazetrak, he is looking for some young cats for his next album. Now he MAY not like what you submit, but he will give you TANGIBLE advice on how to get better and make it right....go back to the lab, APPLY...ask mom for $50....submit it to Jeff Haddad (he want some young cats on the Pussycat Dolls next album, he is there manager. He MAY not like it!!! but again....more tangible advice (you are getting better, and so far it cost you $90 bucks)....birthday comes....thanks MOM $500.....spend some on some equipment....take $150 and submit to Darkchild. Tell him, "I submitted to Raheem, he told me to do this, I submitted to Jeff, he told me to this, now i am submitting to u....Do I have something here"? I guaranteed you that Rodney will mess with you just because of the path you went on.....and because you probably have a workable product.
Your turn Dollaz
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Ron H. Bt Co_founder
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Again with the illogical response....You answered your own question bruh...Why would i have a rep of my company bad mouth my consumer base does that make good business. I am here to educate u on Blazetrak not insult you....I think u can see I am smarter than that homie.
The-Chronics89
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I kinda don't see the point of this argument, if Legal Dollaz is right - Ron's business won't take off - so what? It doesn't affect anybody else but Ron.
On the other hand, if Ron's business does work then he gets $$ and the pro's get $$, but I guess Legal Dollaz is trying to say that in this situation "us" the no-names lose out and get scammed outta our money and don't get "put on" or anything like that?
The smart producers won't need someone else to tell them not to go near it IF it is ACTUALLY a "scam" or whatever and the dumb ones will lose out on their $$ - as they should for being naive enough to fall for it (IF it is actually a scam, I personally don't think it is based on what I have seen so far), just let it be.
Besides, at the end of the day - all business is in some way, shape or form - a "scam".
On the other hand, if Ron's business does work then he gets $$ and the pro's get $$, but I guess Legal Dollaz is trying to say that in this situation "us" the no-names lose out and get scammed outta our money and don't get "put on" or anything like that?
The smart producers won't need someone else to tell them not to go near it IF it is ACTUALLY a "scam" or whatever and the dumb ones will lose out on their $$ - as they should for being naive enough to fall for it (IF it is actually a scam, I personally don't think it is based on what I have seen so far), just let it be.
Besides, at the end of the day - all business is in some way, shape or form - a "scam".
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