Selling Beats is DEAD!!!

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j.troup said:
I'm in the process of developing a mobile app for the nightlife industry, as well as FINALLY going forward with my Music Business Strategy/Consulting business.

I'm also still writing and engineering, as well as producing.


It's finally time to put this 8.5 years of work together. I'm excited.
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That's wassup, keep us updated on the Consulting Business!
 
Beats09 said:
That's wassup, keep us updated on the Consulting Business!
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Oh definitely. I'm finishing up the website design now, and I have my first client ready for launch come January 2012.


I'm offering service of all price points..and not just stuff that you can Google and find out. Truly innovative solutions, tailored to the individual and their goals.
 
Well the cool thing about music is that there are tons of other revenue streams available. Beat selling still works but you can't just make a soundclick and then instantly get $$$ anymore. You gotta create your own website, your own brand, and your own fan base and eventually your own culture. You can still sell beats online but you gotta capture leads and turn them into super fans of your brand.
 
There should be a group (like a cartel) and they shouldn't sell leases for less then lets say $100. And If you're a member and sell for less you go. And just let the overnight fruityloopers sell for 15, but anybody who wants to sell for more needs to put out quality. But when the best dudes sell for $25, the game is over.

it could be a website like SC but without any option to go under a certain price. I know other business fields who do this successfully.

just an idea.
 
can't lie i miss the days of going into my PMP account and making racks on racks on racks
 
I was feeling kinda bored lately and have developed an algorithm for re-synthesizing drum instruments from a loop/sample. What it does, it compares it against your library and then matches it to the sound it recognized from the sample. That's cool and fantastic and "OMG!" and all, but what it then does is even more "swaggggg!" and "dat fyucha shyt" and stuff. It takes drum patterns and you can pick and choose some you like or MORPH the patterns with the individual instruments you recognized from the loop/sample.

Now for instruments, I had already developed something years ago, where you can create a whole arrangement using one finger, or a melody, or simply picking a couple of chords or the key and "jamming".

Combine the two, you got your "beetmaker" VST Deluxe Mega Edition.

And sure, you can use all your sound libraries or VSTs to generate the sounds.

What I'm gonna do next is work on something that scans music, divides it into tracks (melodies for the vocals, drum patterns, basslines, the whole arrangement including breaks, etc...) and then creates a "nearest neighbor" library to start from. Once you know how to do it, it's just a buttload of smart calculations.
What you end up with is a algorithmic music creator. You just type in "make a Katy Perry like, happy house tune with a typical Timbaland arrangement", you come back after 30mins and go through the dozens of songs it created.
Voila! The producer is dead, long live the e-ducer. ;) "This hit was brought to You by Your friendly android musician".

Basically, my dream was always to make Andrew Lloyd unemployed. And I think I'm kinda getting there. ;)
 
If you're not making money there could be 2 things wrong with your situation. A. promo or B. quality. The worst case scenerio would be if both these things are wrong with your situation.
 
jeanlukpigheart said:
i was feeling kinda bored lately and have developed an algorithm for re-synthesizing drum instruments from a loop/sample. What it does, it compares it against your library and then matches it to the sound it recognized from the sample. That's cool and fantastic and "omg!" and all, but what it then does is even more "swaggggg!" and "dat fyucha shyt" and stuff. It takes drum patterns and you can pick and choose some you like or morph the patterns with the individual instruments you recognized from the loop/sample.

Now for instruments, i had already developed something years ago, where you can create a whole arrangement using one finger, or a melody, or simply picking a couple of chords or the key and "jamming".

Combine the two, you got your "beetmaker" vst deluxe mega edition.

And sure, you can use all your sound libraries or vsts to generate the sounds.

What i'm gonna do next is work on something that scans music, divides it into tracks (melodies for the vocals, drum patterns, basslines, the whole arrangement including breaks, etc...) and then creates a "nearest neighbor" library to start from. Once you know how to do it, it's just a buttload of smart calculations.
What you end up with is a algorithmic music creator. You just type in "make a katy perry like, happy house tune with a typical timbaland arrangement", you come back after 30mins and go through the dozens of songs it created.
Voila! The producer is dead, long live the e-ducer. ;) "this hit was brought to you by your friendly android musician".

Basically, my dream was always to make andrew lloyd unemployed. And i think i'm kinda getting there. ;)
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lmfaooooooo!!!!!
 
BJv said:
If you're not making money there could be 2 things wrong with your situation. A. promo or B. quality. The worst case scenerio would be if both these things are wrong with your situation.
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Most likely a promo issue I've seen dudes with some beats that are mixed bad and don't sound like anything spectacular and they are selling quite well. ( I'm not promoting bad beats.. but, grind > talent as far as gettin money goes)
 
Making beats is a artform I tell ya! We should all continue to master sound and learn all genders of music. Thats what a true sound lover does. Make money when you can but do it for the culture (SMILE)
 
j.troup said:
I've been talking about consulting for people way before dude even came around. This has been the plan for years.
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good to see you're about to get off the ground with you consulting business

but sometimes a consultant/business coach needs some consulting because they are too close to their company and can miss some opportunities to make more money or slim down overhead

I like to pose to you a question you posed to me a while back

what innovative things specifically can you do for a artist...
and I use your same example you gave me Neo-singer that writes,producing,etc.

what could you do to help further their career and help them gain visibility.

hope to hear from you
THIS IS NOT A BLAST just a question from another music professional
you might be able to help me see some things I'm not see with my media/ent company
my site business stuff is under the WALKING ON WATER SECTIONMerry Christmas celebrating the Invasion Day (the day that was chose to celebrate the birth of Christ)
 
Man I am already getting my sound design swag in. Making hip hop sound banks. I just released a free Reason refill called dirty drums to my facebook fans today. Looking into making libraries for Kontakt as well. Also doing youtube vids and putting out music as an artist. The money isn't in living the dream its in selling it and its also not in just one thing. You gotta know how to spread your hustles around. Some of these niggas better learn how to do a dance, write hooks or dj. I realized that when i saw Just Blaze doing more Dj shows than records a few years ago.
 
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