Mixer suggestions.

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HAHAHA how many times have we seen that subject now?
Seriously though, I am looking to buy a new mixer in two or three weeks time. I want it to have very good sound quality. I'll be using it to record my sets with my computer. I do want to get a dual cd deck later this summer so that's something I'm keeping in mind when I make the decision.

So far I am thinking about getting the Rane mp22z for ~$600.
It does have two channels but the mp24z is some $200 more and I can use the line/phono switches if I have to... Is doing that a bad idea?

Anyway, I'm looking to find out what you guys think is a good mixer for no more than $600 (or maybe a little :D if it's worth it).

Thanks!
-Gene
 
I forgot to mention a few things. I am looking for a 19in rack mountable mixer for when I (hopefully) get a dual cd deck too.
I also checked out the djm-3000 which is about $750 but, I'm not sure if the two extra channels and the effects (mostly unsure about the usefulness of the effects) are worth the money. Pioneer is supposed to have a bit wose sound quality too. Remember the $150 is fifteen or so records.

Thanks!
-Gene
 
Hmm, after thinking about this for a while I decided that buying a cd deck is not a good idea right now for a couple reasons:

1. I am not at the stage where I will be editing songs I want to play to better fit my sets.
2. $800 spent on a cd deck is a nice crate of vinyl :D

So, instead I am looking for a good mixer to complemet my pair of m3d's, eq killers (coming in next week!) and a possible effects unit/sampler (like the Boss SP-303 on which subject I would also apperciate some feedback).

BTW: am I correct when assuming that the Vestax PMC-250 is no where near the quality of the Rane mp22z? Also consider it's $500 price tag.

Thanks again
-Gene
 
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this one's pretty dope

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or if that's not enough try

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ummm.......

what was the question again??
 
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Thanks, thanks... I'll consider all three. The last one is pretty impressive but, maybe overkill?

(I do want your real opinions!)

-Gene
 
well there's plenty out there.. a few pointers from what you were saying tho:

if you've 2 eq killers you will want *4* line-level inputs as a starting point if possible. This is because the 'killers have phono stage pre-amps built in (so your decks get up'ed to line level); they also have a second output for the killed bands - handy for applying effects to the vocal only for instance.

If at a later date you still wanted to add CDJs you will need line level inputs for these too; and maybe a PC if you're really going for it. This makes a total of 7 line-level inputs as a worst case.. and though some of them you could put up with being switchable.. really a 4 channel mixer with 6 or seven line level inputs would be future proof.

Without the taking CD decks and PC you could probably get away with a three channel system, with both the killed EQ bands being switchable in the third channel..

On a two channel system like the Rane, you will only be able to plug up the two live channels from the eq killers - they're line level. Maybe you could take the killed bands-send direct to your effects unit if it had an input source selector? but the bottom line is that you will have maxed out your mixer with just two sources.

The effects on the djm3000 are fun.. they're not the defining standard for studio effects by any means, but they're handy and you can get some fairly individual noises coming out of them if you spend just a little time working them out.

How about the xone:32? not sure on the price ($799?) but it would certainly work with what you're intending. Rack mount kit is an option too. As a cheaper option Vestax do a couple of three channel units - 175 & 275, I think maybe they're rack mountable too, and the 275 has an option for rotary faders (as does the djm3000?).
 
THE DOPEST MIXER I HAVE SEEN IS THE TASCAM X-9
if you have the cash i would seriously consider it. this beast has everything imaginable like digital imputs, tweakable fader settings, sampler, filters, pretty lights, and way to many things to remember. But what do i know? i just played w/ it once at guitar center and i was overwhelmed by it. Oh yeah, another mixer i would recomend is the ecler smacpro 30, nice 3 channel vca, tilted faders and just good sound quality.:cheers:
 
check out the sp505 if you have the extra cash - im very close to justifying buying one! i really want one!!!!
 
dangerousd - thanks for the suggestions but, I don't think you are completely right. I know you can plug two sources into each eq killer. It has an output for each source as well. If I would plug a turntable and a cd player into each eq killer and use the source switch button on the front of it, along with the phono/line switch on the mp22z I would have no problems... would I? To some extend I'd rather get a mixer with 4 faders or pots but, the mp24z costs more than I can justify spending on a mixer right now. I really like the faders on the Rane too - personally I think they are infinitely better than the ones on Pioneer mixers. But of course the sound is the major factor here. The xone:32 is a cool mixer, despite the gain pots being placed in the back side of it (WTF?). I think you're right about the price though, which is why I'm not considering it.

I suppose the Vestax pcv-275 is an option too... especially if two channels really isn't going to be enough.

Regarding the Tascam I completely agree with citytank... besides, if I was spending that much on a mixer I would buy the Rane MP 2016 + XP 2016 combo and not require a support group to visit (read: tascam forum).

The Ecler 3 channel mixers seem to be good units I just can't get over those freaking tilted faders damn it! Is it better than the PCV-275?

Any opinions are always apperciated.

Thanks!
-Gene
 
Imo ecler is a much better choice over vestax, better build and overall better quality. the tilted faders are really nice once you get used to it, not that much different tho. Both the smac 30 and 40 are great mixers, no doubt about that. If you're choosing between the pcv275 and [any] ecler, go with ecler.

Otherwise rane is supadupa
 
Gene

The EQ KIllers do have two source inputs, but in that regard they have three outputs - the two sources have separate outputs, the reason being that the source you're not EQ'ing is passed straight thru and out the other side.

Have a look at the back panel diag here:
http://www.electrixpro.com/products/resources/eqkiller_panels.html

what you'll see is a source 1 input/output pair; a source 2 input/output pair and a send/return loop.
:cheers:
 
ok in response to luving the X9 at first, i will give you my folllow up, i went to guitar center last night w/ some friends who needed some guitar strings and i played w/ the x9 some more only to find out how funktified the cross fader curve is. somebody was crabbing' w/ the x9 and cdj-1000 and seemed furious how much the fader sux. We talked bout the initial design and i mentioned it was not a battle mixer. after seeing how bad this thing cuts i now revoke my last statement, it's ok mixer but for the money i would rather go with a proven design, djm-600. sorry bout that :cheers:
 
No problem Chex, I'm looking for opinions, not for people to just agree with me.

But damn it! I really want that Rane... maybe the smac 30 is a better idea though. How do the faders feel on the Ecler - I rather like some resistance on the upfaders (like on studio mixers). I liked the faders on the pcv-275 for that matter.

Dangerousd - that's the pic I was looking at yesterday. I think I'm misunderstanding the reason why I cant add cd players if I so choose later (using the mp22z).

Anyway, here are some specs. from the Rane:
2 RCA phono inputs
4 RCA line inputs

Note: the most line inputs any Rane mixer has is 5 - are you saying that's not enough if you're using eq killers, 2 tt's and 2 cd players?

Thanks!
-Gene
 
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Note: the most line inputs any Rane mixer has is 5
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hey, make sure on www.rane.com that those phono inputs aren't switchable to line input. My little MP-2 only has 2 phono and 2 line inputs, but the phono can be switched to line, allowing me to use my eq killers w/ my TT's and still have 2 free channels....
 
drc24 - exactly! That's what I'm trying to understand. You can switch between line and phono...

The mp2 seems kind of cool. How is it?

Thanks!
-Gene
 
the pcv-275 is the sh*t!!! i just picked mine up this afternoon at guitar center for $369.99! (i got them to match the price on 123dj.com :D :D :D )

the faders are amazingly smooth, though i haven't had much time to fool around with it yet.

it is soooooo beautiful sitting in my room. :cheers:
 
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