In Da Club Sampled or not?

[Stréetwíze Productnz]

Umm....Can i just say that Dr Dre didnt actually make In Da Club. Mike Elizondo did. Just clearing that up cuz some of you seem 'mislead' about that..

 

[rocstarr328]

Umm....Can i just say that Dr Dre didnt actually make In Da Club. Mike Elizondo did. Just clearing that up cuz some of you seem 'mislead' about that..

No one said that he made the beat he *produced*it, and Mike Elizondo was the co-production.

 

[Enndee]

I think it was influenced after hearing a sample. I think it was somewhat a pardoy of a sample.

 

[Stréetwíze Productnz]

Actually quite a few people said that Dre made the beat. And he says it in the tutorial as well..

 

[rocstarr328]

Actually quite a few people said that Dre made the beat. And he says it in the tutorial as well..

Didn't notice that, actually it's pretty known, I don't like Wiki that much but it's even there clearly stated that Dr Dre is just the producer and Mike Elizondo played the keyboard, bass etc.

 

[Stréetwíze Productnz]

Aight thats cool then lol. I was just lettin the others thats said Dre made the beat know..

 

[orjanbeats]

Here Mr. I Know Everything Better. Look at that picture, I layered the original version with the warbeats version by NFX to the original BPM. You can clearly see that the kick is not shifted to the previous bar as you said. And it is not "off" it is on point and he made a good job. As you can see he was right as he said the clap and shakers are shifted. The clap is on the 6 and 14. And you were wrong the whole time!

And *here* is the FL Project of both versions layered if you don't believe the picture. You can play both versions at the same time they will sound synchronous.

Lol. LOL!

If you use the rap as the basis, you'll hear that the claps hit at 2 and 4. Just listen to how 50 raps. If you nod your head to the natural pulse of that beat, you'll hear that the claps hit at 2 and 4, and that the kick DOES NOT hit at 1. Youre wrong !

 

[JrTMoney2]

the claps don't hit at the 2 and 4...you nod the same way b/c once the first clap hits, the claps are still equally separated as if they were on 2 and 4. the relationship between the kick and clap is what gives it the feel. and mike elizondo and dre work together on all dre's beats...dre also has a dude that does his mixing when he doesn't do it. and even if it's based on a sample or not, it's still replayed anyway. the fl tutorial is dead on.

 

[orjanbeats]

the claps don't hit at the 2 and 4...you nod the same way b/c once the first clap hits, the claps are still equally separated as if they were on 2 and 4. the relationship between the kick and clap is what gives it the feel. and mike elizondo and dre work together on all dre's beats...dre also has a dude that does his mixing when he doesn't do it. and even if it's based on a sample or not, it's still replayed anyway. the fl tutorial is dead on.

well i guess some people cant really count then. jeeze, whats with all the noobism around here? whats so damn difficult about counting to the damn natural pulse of the beat? im not a hater, i think the nfx tutorials for the most part are great, but this one was a little off.

 

[rocstarr328]

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really I do.
I ♥ FP
FP is the best


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[orjanbeats]

I love this
forum so much,
really I do.
I ♥ FP
FP is the best


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and your point is... ? you finally realized you were wrong?

 

[rocstarr328]

and your point is... ? you finally realized you were wrong?

I thought you were smarter but the last comment was just stupid.

Wait.. just a second ... and THINK about what you're saying...

You're saying the kick starts on step 16 on the previous bar, right?

BUT... the strings hit with the kick together, huh?!

Just like this:

Strings: dang - dang | ..... - clap
Kick:... boom - boom | ..... - clap
Count:...One - and ..| Two - and (This is how you count it right!!)

Yes, you see it right, the clap doesn't hit on the "2" and "4" as you said,
it hits on the _two "and"_ _four "and"_... You talking about counting but don't know how to count to rescue your life!

Why would they start the STRINGS together with the KICK on step 16 on the previous bar????!!! THINK ABOUT IT!!! That doesn't make sense AT ALL!!!!

But letting the clap or snare hitting earlier or later is a known technique to get a specifc groove which makes at least sense.

I proved you wrong again!


EDIT: What I forgot, 50 cents lines always end a little bit earlier than the clap that is very good hearable on my version!!!

rocsta > orjanbeats

 

[orjanbeats]

I thought you were smarter but the last comment was just stupid.

Wait.. just a second ... and THINK about what you're saying...

You're saying the kick starts on step 16 on the previous bar, right?

BUT... the strings hit with the kick together, huh?!

Just like this:

Strings: dang - dang | ..... - clap
Kick:... boom - boom | ..... - clap
Count:...One - and ..| Two - and (This is how you count it right!!)

Yes, you see it right, the clap doesn't hit on the "2" and "4" as you said,
it hits on the _two "and"_ _four "and"_... You talking about counting but don't know how to count to rescue your life!

Why would they start the STRINGS together with the KICK on step 16 on the previous bar????!!! THINK ABOUT IT!!! That doesn't make sense AT ALL!!!!

But letting the clap or snare hitting earlier or later is a known technique to get a specifc groove which makes at least sense.

I proved you wrong again!

Haha omg, youre stupider than i thought.

WHATS SO GOD DAMN HARD ABOUT FEELING THE NATURAL PULSE OF THE SONG? either from the beat, or from the rapping if you rather prefer that

the first kick (and the WHOLE GOD DAMN SONG with the strings and all) does NOT hit on the 1.

 

[rocstarr328]

Haha omg, youre stupider than i thought.

WHATS SO GOD DAMN HARD ABOUT FEELING THE NATURAL PULSE OF THE SONG? either from the beat, or from the rapping if you rather prefer that

the first kick (and the WHOLE GOD DAMN SONG with the strings and all) does NOT hit on the 1.

You just don't want to admit that you're wrong. I'm pretty sure you already realized that your *arguments* don't make sense at all, but you try to go out of this and keep your pride.

Don't come at me with stupid PULSE OF BEAT shyt.. you said the clap hits on the 2 and 4, you said 50s raps end on the 2 and 4 WHICH IS WRONG... I listen to it and I trust my ears, the claps hit on 2 and, 4 and

50s rap lines end earlier than the clap which is easily hearable.

 

[orjanbeats]

haha damn you should really read some music theory, or just listen to some more music

 

[rocstarr328]

haha damn you should really read some music theory, or just listen to some more music

At least I'm bringing some arguments that make sense instead of talking trash and nonesense like you, and spreading the wrong information across the world.

It's very stupid to call a remake "OFF" which is dead on point!

 

[orjanbeats]

At least I'm bringing some arguments that make sense instead of talking trash and nonesense like you, and spreading the wrong information across the world.

It's very stupid to call a remake "OFF" which is dead on point!

I don't really care if you think im right or wrong, or at all what your defintion of right and wrong is. But stop talking ****, seriously this thread looks like **** because of your ignorant rants..

ok i just wanna settle this once and for all, i dont wanna listen to your lame arguments again.

listen to this (there are 2 differently placed clips in there): http://www.z.share.net/audio/3701268afe9d77/ (remove the period between z and share)

the click represents the pulse in the song. so according to your argument, the first one should be right. since the kick starts on the 1, right? and according to you, the pulse on the second placed clip is all wrong, since the clap hits on 2 and 4?

what do the other people on here think?

 

[rocstarr328]

I don't really care if you think im right or wrong, or at all what your defintion of right and wrong is. But stop talking ****, seriously this thread looks like **** because of your ignorant rants..

You're the ignorant, you talk negatively about other peoples music, without even taking the time to look deeper. You probably watched the video 10 seconds and said it's "off". Why don't you care about your own music? If it really were "off" and if you were "right", I wouldn't have said anything. And you make a bad impression to me since you don't want to accept that you lost this one, it's obvious.

You just could say "ok the remake is not off, I apologize to NFX the maker" But noooo why should you do that, since you're so proud to yourself, that you have the musicial groove, you can hear the PULSE of the song... yeah....

 

[orjanbeats]

You're the ignorant, you talk negatively about other peoples music, without even taking the time to look deeper. You probably watched the video 10 seconds and said it's "off". Why don't you care about your own music? If it really were "off" and if you were "right", I wouldn't have said anything. And you make a bad impression to me since you don't want to accept that you lost this one, it's obvious.

You just could say "ok the remake is not off, I apologize to NFX the maker" But noooo why should you do that, since you're so proud to yourself, that you have the musicial groove, you can hear the PULSE of the song... yeah....

seriously... just listen to the god damn clip. which one sounds better?

WHICH ONE?

 

[rocstarr328]

seriously... just listen to the god damn clip. which one sounds better?

WHICH ONE?

YES THIS TIME SERIOUSLY!!!

the click represents the pulse in the song. so according to your argument, the first one should be right. since the kick starts on the 1, right? and according to you, the pulse on the second placed clip is all wrong, since the clap hits on 2 and 4?

Ok it seems so that you have Alzheimer's disease or you're not able to read correctly. Here it goes again what I wrote:

It dosn't matter what you shift, it's still the same the groove doesn't change. You can't prove it that your version is the right version. The one says the kick is shifted the other says it's the clap and shakers. It doesn't matter in the end. The signatur is still 4/4 and it sounds the same whatever you shift, you can't prove what Dr. Dre *really* did.

And here:

what do the other people on here think?

the claps don't hit at the 2 and 4...you nod the same way b/c once the first clap hits, the claps are still equally separated as if they were on 2 and 4. the relationship between the kick and clap is what gives it the feel. and mike elizondo and dre work together on all dre's beats...dre also has a dude that does his mixing when he doesn't do it. and even if it's based on a sample or not, it's still replayed anyway. the fl tutorial is dead on.