Hypersonic

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Does anyone know where you can get the other roms to put inside this synth?
I know it comes with the wizoo sounds which are pretty dope, but I can not find the other roms anywhere.

Also does anyone know of a synth that is like this one?
 
They released 3 hyper modules check out wizoo.com for those and theres an update where they give you a GM set. I really feel that this workstation is being slept on I use it in most of my songs.
 
I almost picked it up, but then I realized that it was protected by a dongle. What a shame. I'm sick of these software protections that punish the user. I dislike the internet registrations types almost as much. I picked a cheap crappy program recently just to get the samples and when I went online to register it, the registration part of the site was down. Guess what, it stayed down for about 3 weeks. The software allowed me 20 uses before locking itself until I registered it. Well, the registration wouldn't work. I was so pissed about that. The company never returned my emails, even after the site came completely back up, they never responded to my emails about this problem. Their forum at the site was also down so I couldn't even go in there and complain. The software was Storm 3. I know it's the worst piece of crap in the world (It truly is), but I figured at the price I got it for, I'd buy it just for the samples. Once I get all the useable samples out of it, it won't be worth the hard disk space it's wasting. The funny thing is, it's worse than I even thought it was. The ASIO support is a joke. It uses more system resources than any other software I've used so far and it's not like it has some incredibly great synths or anything in it.
 
Deal said:
Yeah there is no other station like it, I am really enjoying it.

Don't you have Emu X? how does Hypersonic compare to it?
 
I hnestly think think the sounds in the hyper, sound much better than the emu. Emu sounds are kind of thin.
So far the best soft synth is hands down hypersonic
 
Deal said:
I hnestly think think the sounds in the hyper, sound much better than the emu. Emu sounds are kind of thin.
So far the best soft synth is hands down hypersonic

yea!
 
L. A. Stone said:
I almost picked it up, but then I realized that it was protected by a dongle. What a shame. I'm sick of these software protections that punish the user. I dislike the internet registrations types almost as much. I picked a cheap crappy program recently just to get the samples and when I went online to register it, the registration part of the site was down. Guess what, it stayed down for about 3 weeks. The software allowed me 20 uses before locking itself until I registered it. Well, the registration wouldn't work. I was so pissed about that. The company never returned my emails, even after the site came completely back up, they never responded to my emails about this problem. Their forum at the site was also down so I couldn't even go in there and complain. The software was Storm 3. I know it's the worst piece of crap in the world (It truly is), but I figured at the price I got it for, I'd buy it just for the samples. Once I get all the useable samples out of it, it won't be worth the hard disk space it's wasting. The funny thing is, it's worse than I even thought it was. The ASIO support is a joke. It uses more system resources than any other software I've used so far and it's not like it has some incredibly great synths or anything in it.

I don't see why the dongle is such a big problem to so many people, your car comes with a key too right so it can't be easily stolen (warezed)
 
BJv said:


I don't see why the dongle is such a big problem to so many people, your car comes with a key too right so it can't be easily stolen (warezed)

The key in my car is not meant to stop me from letting my friend drive it.

I can have 20 keys made and keep one in every single place I go if I were worried about losing the "key".

The car key protects "me" from having my car stolen from "me". If a car key were a dongle, it would protect "Ford" from having the car stolen from "Ford".

If I see an identical car as mine, right next to mine in the parking lot getting stolen, it would not be my problem whatsoever. Why should I care about someone stealing cars from Ford, or software from Steinberg? Why should I join forces with steinberg, for free, in helping to protect "their" products from theft? Why should we be incovenienced in the slightest way whatsoever when we've paid for the software.

Lastly, maybe when you lose or break your dongle, if you have any dongled software, you will have a change of heart.
 
L. A. Stone said:


The key in my car is not meant to stop me from letting my friend drive it.

I can have 20 keys made and keep one in every single place I go if I were worried about losing the "key".

The car key protects "me" from having my car stolen from "me". If a car key were a dongle, it would protect "Ford" from having the car stolen from "Ford".

If I see an identical car as mine, right next to mine in the parking lot getting stolen, it would not be my problem whatsoever. Why should I care about someone stealing cars from Ford, or software from Steinberg? Why should I join forces with steinberg, for free, in helping to protect "their" products from theft? Why should we be incovenienced in the slightest way whatsoever when we've paid for the software.

Lastly, maybe when you lose or break your dongle, if you have any dongled software, you will have a change of heart.

Ok good point :) I havent had any trouble using the dongle though. Unless you have a multi-computer setup I wouldn't see what the problem is. Then again most non-dongle software can only be used on one computer at a time according to the license.
 
Alright....Back to Hypersonic

I'm seriously thinkin bout getting that program. I've heard nothin but good things....
 
I bought several major romplers when I was getting ready to make beats again and the reason I didn't consider Hypersonic was I read at least 2 major magazine reviews that described it as bland or mediocre. I don't know who to believe.
 
Every review I've read isn't exactly glowing, and they all point to the lack of quality in the sounds. Reviews from people on the Net are good, though. I can only go off of hearing one of the demos on the site, and the sound doesn't seem top notch there. The plus it seems is the quickness in which the sounds load, which is a big them when compared to other "workstations".
Peace
 
Some of Hypersonics build in sounds are a little thin. For example I wouldnt be caught dead using the synthy sounding brass. But the editing & layering options make up for most it's faults. The "hyper knobs" are great too. If you do get it I would suggest getting the XXL version that comes with the 3 hyper modules (synth, organ, piano). Don't expect every instrument in it to sound like a scarbee library, it's a workstation after all. I use both hypersonic & sampletank 2 XL and they work great toghetter but I prefer hypersonics work flow. If wizoo releases some more hyper modules like brass, guitars, ochestra I think it will be one of the only tools I use. I'm a tweaker and patch editor and I can make these sounds work for me very well.

I would suggest trying it before you buy it since the opinions on it are so mixed. If you have a dongle already for cubase or another steinberg product you can get a fully functional demo of both hypersonic and the hyper modules, check out wizoo.com for that.
 
hey BJv just wanted to ask your opinion. I currently use Sampletank 2 XL and I was wondering if you think hypersonic has better overall sounds or not. Should I consider purchasing hypersonic to add to my sound library?

A few of my friends that have it say it has some really unique and exceptional sounds that make up for the mediocore ones.

Peace
 
KomplexBeats said:
hey BJv just wanted to ask your opinion. I currently use Sampletank 2 XL and I was wondering if you think hypersonic has better overall sounds or not. Should I consider purchasing hypersonic to add to my sound library?

A few of my friends that have it say it has some really unique and exceptional sounds that make up for the mediocore ones.

Peace

yeah sampletank & hypersonic work well toghetter. But if you have the chance try out hypersonic before you buy it.
 
I was told yesterday about Steinberg Hypersonic. I checked wizoo.com and steinberg.com but it has no program demos that I can try first. Can someone who has Hypersonic tell me how good it is.

I use FL STudio 5. One thing with VSTs is that they don't change pitch at the same ratio as the rest of the song when I change the master pitch (I do this to verify that all melodies are compatible). Also, can you apply Mixing Effects to VSTs in FL? And will I be able to save each 'performance' (16 channels for each song).

Thanks. Eager for a reply.

(I have a nice Yamaha 88 to use as a midi controller, and was planning to get a rack like the Motif, but racks don't act like VSTs and have to be recorded separately eh. There must be a way that they can...)
 
illapino said:
I was told yesterday about Steinberg Hypersonic. I checked wizoo.com and steinberg.com but it has no program demos that I can try first. Can someone who has Hypersonic tell me how good it is.

I use FL STudio 5. One thing with VSTs is that they don't change pitch at the same ratio as the rest of the song when I change the master pitch (I do this to verify that all melodies are compatible). Also, can you apply Mixing Effects to VSTs in FL? And will I be able to save each 'performance' (16 channels for each song).

Thanks. Eager for a reply.

(I have a nice Yamaha 88 to use as a midi controller, and was planning to get a rack like the Motif, but racks don't act like VSTs and have to be recorded separately eh. There must be a way that they can...)

I've used Hypersonic and the only thing not to like about it is the dongle. Soundwise, it's as good as I've heard in software, easily better than Sampletank and the rest. The interface is also easily better than the rest. Patches load instantly instead of waiting 10 seconds for pianos to load into ram. Layering patches is a single click so it invites you to do so and once you start layering. Some mentioned the "synthy sounding brass". That's just what it's supposed to be, "synth brass". There are also real brass patches that are as good as anything else I've heard in software. I'd say that Hypersonic is the closest in quality to my Motif Rack Es that I've heard, but the Motif easily beats them all hands down. The Motifs, Tritons and Fantoms are a different ballgame with regard to quality of sound and playability. Visit Sam Ash and see for yourself. It's basically like this. If you have a whole lot of skill, you can make something like Sampletank sound pretty good, but if you have less skill, you can still make a Motif sound good. If you got real skill, you can make a Motif totally convincing, like you're playing real instruments.
 
Thanks LA. So in Hypersonic, do I have to save 'multis' to match each song that I make (since of course every song will use different instruments)?

I'd much rather get a Motif ES Rack, but heard that it's a troublesome affair if using it with FL Studio. Since FL apparently can't record into itself, you have to record out of the motif into a different program to produce a wav? Are you sure the Motif can't act like a VST? There must be a way.

Thanks for the Hypersonic info. It's tempting... Or is Halion better and adding on the Halion Strings edition?

If not, what other software is equivalent to Steinberg Hypersonic (a workstation software, wide selection of instruments)?
 
illapino said:
Thanks LA. So in Hypersonic, do I have to save 'multis' to match each song that I make (since of course every song will use different instruments)?

Whatever you do in a song is saved just like any other VSTi. You can create a layered multi and save it for use in other projects. Then you can load up Hypersonic and load that particular multi and it will all come back together. None of that's much different than other VSTi's though.

illapino said:
I'd much rather get a Motif ES Rack, but heard that it's a troublesome affair if using it with FL Studio.


I give FL Studio's developers a large E for effort because they've gone further towards trying to accommodate everybody and everything than any other soft studio. However, with something like the Motif ES Rack, your best user experience is gonna be with a full on sequencer like Cubase or Logic. I'm strongly in the Cubase camp personally, but I found that Sonar also had serious support for sequencing external gear as well. You will also find that Cubase has much better support for any VST instrument than FL Studio although FL is still a very strong program. You'll find in Cubase, things about certain VSTi's that you never knew existed while using those same instruments in FL. And worst of all about FL, simple modwheel is something that has to be setup with midi outs on each instrument, and can only be assigned to a single instrument at a time. Total turn off although I've use FL for years. I can't keep doing things like that.

illapino said:
Since FL apparently can't record into itself, you have to record out of the motif into a different program to produce a wav? Are you sure the Motif can't act like a VST? There must be a way.

I think you're thinking of someone else's remarks. FL can absolutely record both the midi and audio of the Motif both at the same time and either/or. It's ASIO performance is every bit as good as Cubase's. No problem there, but you'll find that changing patches on the Motif actually changes the track in FL. Totally messed up. You can't change the instrument and play it from your midi keyboard because as soon as you change the instrument, FL changes the track to something else and you have to keep reselecting the Motif's midi out. As for it acting like a VSTi, that depends on what you mean. A VSTi typically has total recall. This is out of the question for something like FL Studio, but there's a new development in software/hardware communication in the form of Yamaha's Studio Connections software. It ships with the Motif Rack Es and is supported in Cubase SX3. It claims that you have Total Recall through the use of this software which is like a plugin in Cubase and also standalone. A project consisting of Cubase and Motif parts can be totally recalled just like a VSTi so it claims. I really wish I could say if it's true or not, but I'm not using SX3 yet. I might change that soon though.

illapino said:
Thanks for the Hypersonic info. It's tempting... Or is Halion better and adding on the Halion Strings edition?

If not, what other software is equivalent to Steinberg Hypersonic (a workstation software, wide selection of instruments)?

I can't say for certain. I just know that Hypersonic's sounds are in my opinion, better than Sampletank, Sonic Synth, Plugsound and a few others that I've tried. I completely disliked Halion's interface and Halion is of course a "sampler", not a sound module. I don't really know how the included sounds are.
 
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