FPC Question (Is it possible to timestretch your chops with the FPC?)

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What's happenin family? Does anyone know if it's possible to time stretch your chops when using the FPC? I've been trying to figure out how to do this for quite some time now, and it's been really pissing me off. If the FPC is incapable of time stretching your chops, it's mad bootleg cause u oughta be able to utilize time stretching with any mpc-like device.

Without a time stretching feature for your chops, you're restricted to setting the tempo of the sequences that you create with them to somewhere near the original tempo of the chops if you want the chops to sync up with each other. If u set the tempo of the sequences that u create with the chops to a tempo that's not near the original tempo of the chops, the chops either won't play all the way through from one chop to the next (that's if u set the tempo of the sequences too far down from the orginal tempo of the chops) or they'll cut each other off without playing all the way through (that's if u set the tempo of the sequences too far up from the original tempo of the chops). Also, without a time stretching feature, you're unable to change the pitch of the chops without changing the tempo of them, and that just plain sux balls. (I hope that this paragraph isn't too technical for y'all. If you know something about choppin, u oughta have some idea of what I'm talkin about)

I'm quite sure that other people have noticed this as well, but just haven't taken the time out to mention it. If Imagine-Line doesn't have a timestretching feature connected to the FPC, they really deserve to be shot cause this just shouldn't be, especially with there being hip-hop heads out there who use their program and like to do a lot of choppin, and more specifically, like to munipulate their chops by changin their tempos and their pitch.

I have a Fantom X, and it's pads work very similar to the FPC, but when u load your chops into the Fantom's pads, they're capable of being time stretched without a single problem. The only thing that I dislike about the Fantom is the work flow; it's extremely too slow (which is why I'm about to get rid of it), but the features are great. If I could have the time stretching feature of the Fantom X connected to the FPC, I'd be in business.
 
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nah man you cant time stretch on the FPC i think it was meant more for drums. To time stretch your chops you gotta use the FL Slicer
 
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Thanx for your response West. U know, the creators of the FPC oughta take hot iron rods up their asses for this. How the hell could they create the FPC without considering time-stretching and pitch shifting? It makes absolutely no good sense to me whatsoever cause drum pads should be able to be used for more than just creating drum patterns. They oughta be capable of being used for sequencing samples with time-stretching and pitch-shifting features as well (as you're able to do with the Fantom X's pads and the mpc). This is a huge strike against FL Studio. I mean, FL Studio has some excellent features, but how the hell could they overlook something as important as this? This definitely needs to be brought to Imagine-Line's attention.
 
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that was my biggest issue with fl 7... most ppl said it was minor but if the fpc could time stretch it would be a great advantage for that gritty primo style of random chopping...
 
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The Fpc is a multi-layer/velocity drum machine.
Not a Mpc.Don't get it twisted.
 
nobody said it was but if u could drop samples on the pads and stretch them right there like on the mp's, the fpc would be a problem, thats all we're sayin. Not sayin its not dope as is its just something u have to ask y would they not of thought of it
 
when ever fl studio 8 drops i hope they add time stretch and a autochop 2 the fpc. with that ur workflow would be superfast ....with every new version they always redesign features 2 the fpc ....lets hope,for now i use edison 2 slice n dice or the sl slicer ... peaceluv
 
instead of hoping for image line to add that feature to fl 8 why don't u guys just contact them and tell them what u would like to c in the next version? If they are sensible ppl they should take ur recommendations into account when they upgrade the FPC. i think the more ppl email them the more likely they are to take it into considerations. now let the bitching stop n email image line

peace
 
Good advice magic stick. That's exactly what I'm gonna do.
 
And while you're at it, have them implement a REAL snap feature for manual midi input.

That, to me, is the ONLY thing from making it THE best sequencer. You play your chops out and STILL have to lock it in with ALT-Q ? c'mon now.
 
whoa you guys are all crazy! what you guys need to do is learn how to use the FL slicer for your samples

the FPC for Drums and the FL Slicer with Edison for samples is a perfect match
 
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HeIsTruth said:
And while you're at it, have them implement a REAL snap feature for manual midi input.

That, to me, is the ONLY thing from making it THE best sequencer. You play your chops out and STILL have to lock it in with ALT-Q ? c'mon now.
Main snap which is in the toolbar(not the snap stuff within Piano Roll which is used for moving notes and manually inputting notes) is what is used for quantization on recording. Works like a charm for me for ages now. Is this not what you want?
 
yeah i control the fruity slicer with akaimpd24 and its voila its just like having an mpc, except way less expensive, and easier to use and faster...if you know fl7 in and out, you can accomplish ne thing you want on it... but i guess a "virtual mpc" would b nice? but why its sooo easy to chop in edison, time n pitch shift in slicer and then control with whatever the hell you want...
 
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DigitalTechnic said:
Main snap which is in the toolbar(not the snap stuff within Piano Roll which is used for moving notes and manually inputting notes) is what is used for quantization on recording. Works like a charm for me for ages now. Is this not what you want?


It IS, if it worked. Maybe you have a magic copy of FL cause that NEVER worked for me in 4, 5, 6, or 7
 
yeah the workflow on mpc sucks for me....way faster n easier on fl...ive had 2000xl 3000, and used 4000, they all pale in comparison where "workflow" is concerned....so actually youre right it is "FAR FROM An MPC"who wants to use a scroll wheel to dial in names of samples and then edit them on a pixelated ass screen (again with a wheel) and hold all types of combinations of buttons when i can just drag and drop, and move sliders.....im so over the mpc....JUST MY OPINION
 
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HeIsTruth said:
It IS, if it worked. Maybe you have a magic copy of FL cause that NEVER worked for me in 4, 5, 6, or 7
Odd because works great over here. For example set main snap to say Step and then record. I tried all snap settings and when it's done recording I can see it has been quantized in piano roll.
 
Wow alot of people in here use the Slicer for sampling. Personally that thing annoys the **** outa me, i find my samples in edison and drag each part to a new sampler channel. From there i take advantage of the stretch to 1 beat, 1 bar etc etc, and the fact that i can shorten or trim the loop in the sampler itself without going back and forth between the slicer and edison. Is it bad that I work that way?

TC
 
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