Dr. Dre's basslines

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enigma said:
he has a musician named mike elizondo play his basslines
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That's correct...Specifically during the Aftermath days, not Death Row or Ruthless.

But as someone else suggested you need a good DI box. I not going to speculate but I do know that dre loves warm analog gear, and that has alot to do with the sound. But I do know that he also layers his live electric bass with a synth bass.
 
Dre signs up artists that are the bomb at the moment, then when he thinks they are stale, he drops em...all for a profit!
Thats not a rumour, its a fact. Go check it for yaself!
No-one that produces with Dre ever gets writers/producers royalties, keeps all the good **** for his own.

Premo`s the man!
 
Personnally, i dont know, but i have serious issues with Dre`s business ethics! thats all.
Sorry if i offended anyone but im intitled to my opinion.
 
i agree ,.dre is more hype than anything,.else in my opinion,.the hypoe ismainly bout,.his first solo ,lp.which if u check out,.is loops of actual,.actual,.70.s acts. records,.which im sure they was,nt complaining then or now,.because of the royalties he paid them,.so yeah, primo,.marly marl,.and pete rock,.they cats were,.and still are very creative,.dre is another story,.i,m,o,p peace
 
PtheGhost said:
scot storch ghost produces for dre ALL the time, so all of u who love dre, learn to love the true king, scot storch
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you can say that but Dre been dropping heat before he met scott storch .Imagine all the s... scott learned off of Dre next we gonna be saying that scott made NWA .And I always thaught that the king was the guy that sat back while the peasants did all the work .It was Dre's decision to use scott storch. my 2 cents
 
UndaKrust said:

No-one that produces with Dre ever gets writers/producers royalties, keeps all the good **** for his own.

Premo`s the man!
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Premo does the same thing. It's called sampling and not giving credit to the original musicians(not clearing the sample). It's the same thing.

That's why it is called the music business.
 
Clearing the sample is not the same as not giving other producers credit that worked on a track
 
UndaKrust said:
Clearing the sample is not the same as not giving other producers credit that worked on a track
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I said "not" clearing the sample. It's all the same. You are not giving credit to others who help develop the track.

Premo even said himself, that the only samples he clears are one's that are on major label artist's records. And that isn't his choice that is the label persuing the clearance(for legal reasons).

I like Premo too, matter of fact I ran into him a couple of times at the now defunct D&D Studio. But not clearing a sample is the same as someone coming in, playing something for you and not giving them credit(in a sense even this can be considered sampling).

Not only that, Scott Storch signed a contract and knew what he was getting into(or any ghost producer, session musician, etc). So Dre really didn't steal anything. That why I made the comment, "That's why it is called the music business."
 
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I think someone should start a new thread about the differences between Producers and Session Players as well. Seems like a lot of cats get those two confused for some reason. It's very rare that a Session Player gets his credits listed on the album. Now if you were to look at the copyrights you would see a different story. All of these guys get paid to play their parts and most get royalties. Now, if some of them are stupid enough to take someone "word" that they'll get paid or get royalties that's their problem I won't loose a wink of sleep at night over it. Just like my man said...this is a business. Get a manager and some good legal advice and it won't happen to you.:D
 
I never said anything about session players etc...i was talking about actual producers that work with Dre on "his" productions.
Its never produced by Dr. Dre and "whoever"...the whoever else gets writin out.
 
I should quote Big Chuck from The Source mag...Oct 03

"...he had his general manager, who is a dear friend of mine, call me and say he thinks we should part ways. He wasnt even man enough to holla at me.
He told the GM that i ain't brought him something hot in three years. This is what he told her. How the **** is he going to say that when i recently brought him Neff-U? i hooked him up with the "training Day" script.
Me and him listened to the Eminem jump-off in his house and i told him he had to sign him.
Even the new single, [the "P.I.M.P (remix)], with 50 and Snoop - i told them that this joint was a smash. He fought me for it and we kept it. Now look at it-its a smash!
My ears are my talent... Alot of **** is being done over there where mutha-****ers are being mistreated. People arent getting credit for records they're doing. Its like, "take this money and be cool." That happened to Neff-U a couple of times. Mel-Man might have gotta the [co-producer credit on Dr.Dre's 2001], but he didnt get that paper" - Big Chuck
 
I see your point 100%. But again...if you have a proper agent and legal advice this type of thing wouldn't happen. The man said his self that they would give guys some money and tell them that was it. If you don't have an agent that is willing to fight for you and make sure your money and credits are right you're looking to get robbed. The music business has always worked like this. There are countless Blues artist that have not and never will get paid for their work. Why? Because they didn't have anyone to fight for them that knew how the business works.
 
undakrust,
we all agree that there's some shady business going on. Stealing is stealing. So that's why I made the comparison of not clearing samples to not giving credit. Stealing is Stealing. It's all wrong, But oh well. Let's just continue to make music.
 
I agree that its all bad!

mpcpro
I also agree with your point about agents etc...but, if we (ourselves) cant do what an agent does for us; like deal with labels etc...then we may as well give-up.
Because no matter if "we" have an agent etc, we still have to be clear on our own paths, because if we are not, it may be the agent leeching from us instead!
 
this thread is one real big laugh.
if anyone is interested in getting a look at what some REAL PRODUCERS look like in hip hop go to www.digidesign.com go into the hot news section and find the article on hip hop producers and pro tools, take a close look at the picture and then tell who are these guys. i think you guys would not have any clue of these guys, yet look at the bottom and check out all the artists they have worked with, ok yes i know it does not say exactly what there job was with each artists , but they are holding a conferance for hip hop PRODUCERS not engineers or writers.

and the other funny thing is there mostly white guys with one black guy and an asian.

i dont wanna bring up the whole if you write a beat are you a song writer or producer argument again, as so many people have different opinions.

which is amazing cause no one ever gets mixed up or confused of the job of an engineer or a brickie or a nurse.
found it interesting and i thought a feew of you guys might aswell.
 
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Basically i dont really give a f#ck what Dre does...or anyone else at that!!...but it seems like alot do.
 
Wiggum said:
But not clearing a sample is the same as someone coming in, playing something for you and not giving them credit(in a sense even this can be considered sampling).

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bravo. well put. i totally agree.

everybody bashes "sampling". but what do you think you are using when you are playing string patches on your MOTIF? should you be worried about clearing the sample with the artist who originally played that VIOLA?

stealing style sampling a la P.Diddy is not creative. but IMO when you sample and begin to start messing with that sample (chopping, eqing, pitching) you are diving more into the realm of synthesis.

To me its the same thing if you play a patch off a MOTIF or if you sample a chamber music CD. except your more creative IMO if u sample the cd, because everything isnt prepared for you.

but if you do sample, if the sample is large enough, and recognizable enough, then you owe at least some credit, if not getting clearances, etc.
 
92accordlxtuner said:


bravo. well put. i totally agree.

everybody bashes "sampling". but what do you think you are using when you are playing string patches on your MOTIF? should you be worried about clearing the sample with the artist who originally played that VIOLA?
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I think sampling a single sound is no big deal. But when yoou sample an actual melody over 1 or more full measures, your creativity/credibility as a producer quickly disappears.
 
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