DJM-600 vs Numark EM-460 KAOSS PAD DJ Mixer vs. Roland DJ-2000

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Okay, I'm continuing my search for MY "ideal" studio set up.

Recently I've reconsidered my choice of mixer I wanted to get. Originally I wanted something simple to get my sequencer, keyboard, and drum machine, and one more other goodie I choose [I'm not a turntablist, but like some of those functions too.] All I really need is FOUR channels, but I would like a mixer with some effects.

I once owned a ROLAND SP808 Groovesampler. My favorite part about it was the effects. Which is why I'm interested in the DJ2000; but I've read that the actual product itself is very cheap and the inputs are all RCA . After some use don't RCA inputs become compromised? Or is this wrong information?

I also like the fact that it has a voice transformer on it. The DJ-2000 is selling for around $800 right now, and about &650 used -- not bad?

Next, I like the DJM-600, but I don't know much about how the effects sound. The sampler part is a nice added bonus -- but I don't really need it -- do I? I'll have a sampler on the RS7000 anyway.

But the DJM-600 Mixer itself is VERY expensive -- I guess you get what you pay for -- I hope. Even used it's still very expensive.

Next is the Newmark EM-406 Kaoss Pad DJ mixer. I was originally thinking of getting a KAOSS pad anyway, so if this does all the same things then that would eliminate one extra space in my setup, leaving room for something else in the future -- maybe a vocoder. But is there anything crappy about it? I REALLY like the price tag, just under $600 new!

Also, if anyone has any examples or knows where I can download a DJ performance or an electronica performance using these mixers, please let me know where I can download those -- it would be greatly appreciated.

Lastly, if you have any other suggestions I would like to hear them. Thanks in advance. See ya.
 
I would scratch the Numark out of there. Not quite in the same league. Still cool with the Kaoss pad, but it is a step below.
I would suggest an external effects processor, just because you can generally do more with them and have more options. Personally, out of those, I would go for the Pioneer. Cheapest I have seen though is $1050.
 
How come?

Why is the Numark not in the same league? I like the price it's going for right now, just under $600. Lot's of knobs and lot's of effects -- more then the DJ2000.

Which Mixer would you suggest? The Pioneer is REALLY expensive... I think it's just outta' my reach -- so I think I might have to stop dreaming of that one.

The DJ-2000 has really gone down in price since it's release two years ago.

Lastly, what kind of external effects processor are you suggesting? But then, I would still need to get a mixer even if I did get something like a KAOSS PAD from KORG or an EF-303 from ROLAND?

I like the idea of consolidating the two products like the EM460 or the DJ2000, I also like the price of these units. Are there any other options you could suggest?

Thanks for your time. :D
 
To be truly honest, the Numark is really iffy. Numark's build AND sound quality hasn't been, is not, and perhaps will not ever be up to par with the more upscale brands, no matter how many bells & whistles they put on them. IMO, the only decent mixers Numark's produced so far is the SM series and the rotary CM1000.
Out of these three, I suggest you go with the Roland, if the Pio is, financially, out f your league.
 
How about the Pioneer 500 it's about $300 cheaper then the 600 and pretty much has all the same features..have you concidered that at all. There's also the X9 which is do out sometime soon I believe. I say stay away from that Numark, I played around on it and the thing felt so cheap. Not too sure about tht Roland 2000 tho, it's a nice mixer but like you said it is a couple of years old, so essentially starting to get out dated. How about looking at some of the Allen&Heath mixers maybe a little too much tho..one option is also just to buy the external effex unit specially if you already got a sampler. That Pioneer is nice and retails for about $300-350, always an option.
peace,
sergio
 
Ummm, I'm not sure about that. Don't think I've seen a new DJM500 for less than $749.
Are you sure you're not thinking about the DJM300 (2 channels, no effects) which retails for around $349?
 
nah that's what I meant, the 500 is about $300 cheaper then the 600 after taxes and all that shtuf. sorry for the confusion
peace,
sergio
 
Yeah, OK. Yeah, the 600 is around $1050 so that would be correct.
 
You should look at the Roland 303 for effects. It seems to be the most versatile effects unit out there. If you got a seperate effects unit, then you could get a cheaper four channel mixer.
 
That's a pretty nice unit, but what about the Alesis Air effex units..heard some good things about those too. :D
 
The ROLAND EF303 is cool, I really like it -- I've been eyeing that and the Kaoss Pad for a while now. But those effects are also on the mixer -- and unfortunately I also have to take into consideration the amount of space I have available to me. Which is why I'm trying to get some pieces of gear that will consolidate some of those ideas/products.

Generally, the Numark is the very LEAST liked products on the market. I just wish the KORG KAOSS mixer had more inputs and channels. Korg ussually makes pretty good gear.

The pioneer seems to be the favorite, and the DJM-500 is just in my price range -- It's selling for about $600 to $849 at some online stores and eBay. I guess what makes the DJM-600 so expensive is the phrase sampleing addition. Which I don't need.

The DJM-500 is compact and has lot's of the effects I really wanted in the way of the DJ2000, DJM-600, KAOSS PAD, EF303. :p

Does anyone here use the DJM-500? Do you know if it comes in SILVER or GREY? Also, I'm trying to find an image that shows the back of the DJM-500, can't seem to find one.

Lastly, the DJ2000 is stil in the running for me. Does anyone use that creature?

Okay, thanks again all!
 
Send a message to Tricky. He seems to love his DJ2000. I wouldn't be surprised if he sleeps with it. :D
 
Truely Speaking,
if u cannot efort the DJM 600, better go for the Dj 2000, not for the em 420, dj 2000 has many qualities, in it , better talk to Tricky, about , he love his lil babe. and me too I also have a dj 2000 mixer. and if u're prfering for and external efx processor, go for the Korg Kaoss pad or the Alesis MIDIman 4 or choose Electrix Filterfactory & MO-fx, but not the roland one, it's not good , non of my known dj's own that, they all say it's efx controls are not good.;)
 
When you say, just ask TRICKY, are you refering to someone here at FUTUREPRODUCERS? Or, do you mean "Tricky" the Maxinquaye Tricky? That would be cool if he does use the DJ-2000.

I'm starting to warm up to the DJ-2000 again... I'm finding more bargans on it, and I like all the DSP functions w/vocoder.

Late.
 
Yeah... I think it's the DJ2000

Well, I think the DJ2000 is in the lead, with it's price, size, and effects. It's a nice little unit -- although it does not compare to the likes of the Pioneer DJM600.

It comes pretty close to the DJM500 though, but like I said, I can find a better bargan on the DJ2000.

Sometime later, I'll pick up a Kaoss Pad. Thanks guys!

:D
 
:D Tricky is our nice postwiz, the great Indian Tiger and good guardian of all things Roland and Tascam :D:D

Hey Ephekt, I own the DJM600, and IMHO if you're looking for a great studio mixer to be used not only in djing but also coupled w/ production equips. (like samplers, synts, etc...), then as much as I like the DJM I'dpersonally advise u to go for the Roland. It has excelent sound, a complete DSP efx section and MIDI so u can connect it to other stuff and trigger it all from ur mixer.

Again IMO the Pioneer is a much more complete mixer for djing, having all possible connections for booth monitor and rec outs (the DJ2000 doesn't!!!), the most clear and intuitive layout, high durability and contruction, wondersound, comprehensive efx section, etc...

The DJM500 has it all but a few gadgets found on the 600, but u'd hardly miss them anyway. But I agree w/ the guys here, the Numark does not compare to Pio or Roland. Also, check the following if you can: the new Denon mixer and the RedSound Infader (they both accept efx signal - in/out, that is...)
 
Hey Alex TC,

Thanks for the advise, It always helps when others, like yourselves, agree with my necessities and requirements -- helps chill me out. The DJ-2000 [although not the "BEST" mixer,] will seem to be just the right thing for me.

I got a chance to hear the DJ-2000 in action. It had a lot of the familiar EFX from the SP808 -- which I really liked. I didn't get to hear the robot voice transformer though.

How do I find TRICKY so that I may ask him a couple ov questions? Alex TC, Jinten, and Kee all said I should talk to him about this product. How should I do that?

Later fellas -- thanks again! :)
 
just write him a private masage (he is the modorator of this forum):)
 
Kee said:
Send a message to Tricky. He seems to love his DJ2000. I wouldn't be surprised if he sleeps with it. :D
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he does! j/k, but he does love his mixer so much that he has a big roland sign on the hood of his car. and if you need an honest opinion about that mixer hes the guy to ask. and when you ask him tell him he still owes me some pizza! lol:p
 
Help!

I can get the djm 500 4 the same price as the roland......... but also have money for an outer EFX "machine"..... I will probably choose the pioneer 500 and the outer EFX machine..... am I making a right choise???






Happy mixing
 
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