Debating purchase of MV-8000 over AKAI mpc 4000??

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Dear fellow bass heads etc. etc.
This question is directed specifically at owners of these two machines and experts. I'm in a personal debate about purchasing a MV over the new akai 4000. What is the call? I do like the features that the mv 8000 has allowing for the complete production of a track. Does the mpc 4000 pose the same credentails of multisampling, sequencing, editing and mastering??? If so, then what truly sets it apart from the MV???

If unable to answer, owners post your personal pros and cons of your unit....

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ok duke

im gonna give it to you raw


no one can answer this for you not even "pros"

its about how you work

the mv8k has a linear seq which can act as a pattern seq by useing quick set and it will have the vga so editin samples and doing crazy sh*t will be easy


now i don't know to much about the mpc4000 i have used it a few times did not no what i was doing but my boy got one i had a mpc2000xl i can say this

the mv8k is a new way of working that it thats all maybe it can do a lil more then the mpcs but to me at the end of the day there the same dude

go check it out for your self play with them and you will see which way you wanna work
 
there have been long debates on this site.

use the search feature :)

but, in my opinion....the mpc 4000.

1. Q: why mcp4000?

A: ugly, yetsolid all throughout.

2. Q: why not mv8000?

A: looks pretty. sounds like crap.
 
mv 8000 sounds like crap??

the mv 8000 is a mpc hybrid wit roland parts, who makes better parts akai or roland?? ROLAND DOES!! the roger linn days are over buddy, akai dont build stuff like dey use to.

i was a former mpc owner so im not biased in any way in case u were wonderin.
 
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dylantinc said:
there have been long debates on this site.

use the search feature :)

but, in my opinion....the mpc 4000.

1. Q: why mcp4000?

A: ugly, yetsolid all throughout.

2. Q: why not mv8000?

A: looks pretty. sounds like crap.
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see that up there


is why i say check it out for your self!

i don't know what it is with long time mpc user i mean some get it the mv8000 is a new way of workin a beat the others just don't get it half never even used the thing for more then 10mins at the store be4 i got mean i was in guitar center playin with it and the sales person was tellin me get a mpc4000 and you know what the sales people at gc have f**ked me anuff
so you gonna have to look at both for your self i mean its good to hear feed back but to tell you the truth both units are all most the same they both have good efx the both have pads and the bullsh*t about the seq is just that bullsh*t i don't care how tight people claim the mpc seq is fact is my beat is gonna sound the same az theres at the end if i know what im doing all beats sound the same seq wise no one could tell if 9thwonder was useing fruityloopz to he said it no one could tell if neptunes was useing a korg keyboard to seq into they said it

thing is you can't tell the diffrents seq wise what somebody used cause if they know what there doing there sh*t can sound just az if not better then a person with a mpc

im not knockin the mpc its a great unit im diggin the mpc1000 i think its a cool unit for the money and can get the job done

but me i like the mv8000 and thats just me i luv the efx the linear seq the way it edits chop time strech
then you have the vga which is a most have if you like computer editing and speed thats why i like it

but all in all there about the same they just work diffrent dog so if you can bring one home you got 30days to play don't like it throw thay muthaf**ka at a sale person in guitar center for me lol
 
i love how you guys jump all over my post.
so predictable.

thanks.

P.S.> Long time mpc user, guitar player, drum beater, trumpet player, piano player and 3-day mv8000 user. Had a problem with the noise factor. Plugged in headphones, and m' eyes was waterin' so bad from the noise.
Musta been a bad piece. Anywho, thanks again. Enjoy yaselves, now :)
 
dylantinc said:
i love how you guys jump all over my post.
so predictable.

thanks.

P.S.> Long time mpc user, guitar player, drum beater, trumpet player, piano player and 3-day mv8000 user. Had a problem with the noise factor. Plugged in headphones, and m' eyes was waterin' so bad from the noise.
Musta been a bad piece. Anywho, thanks again. Enjoy yaselves, now :)
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Man you must have had a bad unit. Noise on the MV-8000???? The MPC I had was full of noise. MV-8000 is silent. Now, ironically, I play guitar (Les Paul's only) and trumpet (only Bach Stradivarius trumpet's and I only use 7b and 3c mouthpieces...plug plug) and I can play a little keys as well...Sooooooooooo...How in the world would you prefer the MPC 4000. The functions and the operations of the unit are not geared for live instrumentation the way the MV-8000 is. The MV-8000's structure is a dream machine for instrumentalists...Sell that MPC box and give the MV another shot. I thought the MPC 4000 was horribly bad for instruments. But, that is my opinion.
 
i don't prefer the mpc 4000. i prefer the mpc 2000xl.
this is simple.

Does your guitar have wheels? can your trumpet send emails? does a piano vacuum the carpet?

The answers are no, no, and no. So why would you want a beat box that has a multi-track and an array of fx(which I do agree that roland's fx are superior to akai's)?

In my opinion, I think the mpc and mv are equally valuable in their own. If i had to choose an alternative, than it would be the mpc 4000, soley because of experience with my mpc 2000xl.

If you have a good track record with something, stick with it. don't change because there is something new or fresh or different or whatever. change because its beneficial or necessary.

I've owned the mv8000 and the mpc4000. hated both. not because they suck, but because too much was crammed into those things. this is just my opinion.

I prefer stand alone effects and don't need all that sampling time. its just a picky personal thing i have thats come from experience. so i wouldn't have benefited from whats offered with the 2 beasts. I thought maybe there would be some innovative programming or sampling capabilities/techniques that i could pull off with either of them. but that didn't happen.

and for the dude who says all these long time mpc users spending a day with the mv's, not figuring it out, and talking trash......he should know that some of us have brains and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out a sampler!

this debate has been debated and debated.

kid, find out for yourself like we did. start fresh, if your fresh in the scene. pick what speaks to you. not what others speak to them.

Trusty, if you've got a computer, then you should look into multi tracking your instruments with software....so cool. the only thing i miss about tracking with hardware is the hardware itself. i'm too cheap to get a control surface. get a G5, though. minimal latency, beautiful sound. super powerful!

p.s.> anybody know when they're gonna get that dang m-audio firewire 1814 in stock. i can't wait any longer. my G5 is begging for it. my 2000xl is crying for it. help!!!
 
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dylantinc said:

Does your guitar have wheels? can your trumpet send emails? does a piano vacuum the carpet?

The answers are no, no, and no. So why would you want a beat box that has a multi-track and an array of fx(which I do agree that roland's fx are superior to akai's)?

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I would want that because I play those instruments...and the MV isn't just a beat-box with a multi-track plus effects. It mangles samples (my own samples at that too) better than that old MPC 2000XL I used to own which you use. It is all preference, but the MV has the goods and all the great features that MPC's don't. And MPC 2000XL's are still over priced. It was a $900.00 machine when it first came out not a $2,000.00. And they still go for $1,299.99????? That's crap.
 
dude, yer mean.....you should go let some anger out by blasting away on that trumpet!!! arrrgh :)

mangle?!?! imagination is your limit. and don't you dare reply with "uh, the mpc 2000xl will limit your imagination"......its all up to the user. you've got to use your equiptment in unorthodox fashions. I have owned the 2000xl for a little over three years and am still discovering new methods and techniques.

hey, stop being so hateful.
 
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dylantinc said:
dude, yer mean.....you should go let some anger out by blasting away on that trumpet!!! arrrgh :)

mangle?!?! imagination is your limit. and don't you dare reply with "uh, the mpc 2000xl will limit your imagination"......its all up to the user. you've got to use your equiptment in unorthodox fashions. I have owned the 2000xl for a little over three years and am still discovering new methods and techniques.

hey, stop being so hateful.
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Exactly how was I mean?
 
hey i have a hunch that roland will drop the ball on the roland mv 8000 band the price will drop like all there other products by next year and i plan to get one but i have a question for yall who own one right now. I hear that the mv cant record in pattern mode. What do that mean cause right now i have 2k xl and i am able to record on different tracks as far as my seq go, so your telling me the mv cant do that and everything is on the same track. Not that its a pain cause i use to own a dr groove a long time ago but i wa wondering if this is kind of the same. and do it bother any of yall owner.
 
young_keyz said:
hey i have a hunch that roland will drop the ball on the roland mv 8000 band the price will drop like all there other products by next year and i plan to get one but i have a question for yall who own one right now. I hear that the mv cant record in pattern mode. What do that mean cause right now i have 2k xl and i am able to record on different tracks as far as my seq go, so your telling me the mv cant do that and everything is on the same track. Not that its a pain cause i use to own a dr groove a long time ago but i wa wondering if this is kind of the same. and do it bother any of yall owner.
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You can record to 128 different tracks and up to 16 additional audio tracks.
 
so Trusty i would think you have one, tell me why are people saying the mv cant do pattern type seq..
 
dude, the mpc is a pattern AND linear sequencer. with the mv you are limited to linear sequencing with 2 loop points. with the mpc you can make a bunch of sequences(with tons of tracks and as many bars as you want), then join 'em together. OR make one huge sequence(which is what linear sequencing is). a lot of folks bark about linear sequencing because generally the only time they'd use it is on a computer. so more folks coming from a software background will generally like the mv because of familiarity.

go ask a guitarist or better yet a drummer if he/she writes music in one big chunk or piece ideas together. they'll tell you they do both. read a song writing book, it'll give you the same tips and ideas. don't buy into a lot of those books, though. a lot of garbage about pop music and "what makes a hit" type trash fills those pages up. you gotta skim through a ton of 'em.

it's funny, too, cuz cats say "oh i can just copy these bars and paste 'em here and there w/ my supermighty linear sequencer". dude, there just using PATTERNS!!!!
 
you can use pattern too with the mv. its called quick loop section. and it also has tempo change. i work in patterns on the mv. i can change the tempo whenever i want and the MV quick loop isnt limited to just 2 bars and yes you can paste your loop as many times as you want also.
 
mv8000user said:
you can use pattern too with the mv. its called quick loop section.
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Man, I'm tired of readin' this BS.
I've got da 4K and I had copped a MV. Quick Loop just ain't the same as patterns. It's a half-*ss workaround. Peeps who say it's the same and copyin' bars is the same as real-time pattern arrange/re-arrange (next sequence and song on da 4K) don't get it or they're tellin' plain BS!

And I ain't even talkin' 'bout the swing feel of da 4K, ya kno what I'm sayin'?
 
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Nobody said that quick-looping on the MV is the exact same thing as pattern-based sequencing on the MPC. It's just that you can accomplish the same kinds of things.

The MV8000 is a much more capable (and therefore more complex) device than the MPC (any MPC).

Some people need something very simple and limited ... that's all they can handle or all they want to handle ... fair enough.

That isn't to say that MPCs are crap. I may yet add a MPC100 to my own setup.
 
dansgold said:
The MV8000 is a much more capable (and therefore more complex) device than the MPC (any MPC).

Some people need something very simple and limited ... that's all they can handle or all they want to handle ... fair enough.
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Mo' BS!!!
Sure, the MV's got a few features ya don't get on da 4K, but da 4K's got many features ya can't get with the MV. If those few MV features R mo'important 4 ya than sequencin' and samplin' performance, then get the MV. But sayin' it's mo capable than da 4K or sayin' da 4K is limited is nothin' but a Roland brain wash!
I had both machines side by side in mine studio, and I returned the MV to the store, and I wasn't the only one!
 
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