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Yoshimixsu
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i for one prefer vinyl over CD for DJ'ing. but one thing that i dislike about vinyl is that some are shaped like this ~~~> ( 
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djpimpdaddy
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Well you should be able to see that before you buy them duh! 
but seriously I get that myself from time to time, when you find a record you just have to have but it is the only one in the store but it is slightly warped. At least you can jew them down a little bit if thats the case 
but seriously I get that myself from time to time, when you find a record you just have to have but it is the only one in the store but it is slightly warped. At least you can jew them down a little bit if thats the case
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Sorcerer
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oh boy ...
It's like the never-ending "Mac vs Pc" thing.
It's not on what type of machine you play the music, it's how you play it. You can even use a pair of TT's and play the most crappy music in the world. Or a I wrong here?
Is it, when you own 2 TT's that you can call yourself a good DJ?
If I go to a club, I don't care about what setup they got, I just listen to the music and the way it's played. (smoothly mixed, cutted, scratched)
To be more precise .. I don't give a ****!
You have to stand open for new technologies I think ...
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It's not the tools, it's the people!!!
It's like the never-ending "Mac vs Pc" thing.
It's not on what type of machine you play the music, it's how you play it. You can even use a pair of TT's and play the most crappy music in the world. Or a I wrong here?
Is it, when you own 2 TT's that you can call yourself a good DJ?
If I go to a club, I don't care about what setup they got, I just listen to the music and the way it's played. (smoothly mixed, cutted, scratched)
To be more precise .. I don't give a ****!
You have to stand open for new technologies I think ...
Anyway ...
It's not the tools, it's the people!!!
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Yoshimixsu
Guest
djpimpdaddy said:Well you should be able to see that before you buy them duh!
i get almost all of my vinyl in the mail duh ^_~
david lee
one f0rum under house
i too prefer a pair of TT's over CD's but i will still have my CDJ and my numark MP3 controller lurking in the gear off to the left of me for the simple fact that, if i run out of music, i can always use a cd to save my ***. but yeah, vinyl has a certain magic to it that can't be replaced by 0's and 1's. it's warmer, has more....okay i'm not going to get all wierd here.
as a side note, i like to spin all of my house and deep house on vinyl, however when i'm doing a trance set, i'll blend MP3's CD's and vinyl...dunno, i just do.
also, i use the numark for voiceovers, movie lines, and various sound effects that i blend in with the music...this is DJ'ing, you're supposed to get creative, so have fun with it and make people say..whoa, i've never heard that b4.
as a side note, i like to spin all of my house and deep house on vinyl, however when i'm doing a trance set, i'll blend MP3's CD's and vinyl...dunno, i just do.
also, i use the numark for voiceovers, movie lines, and various sound effects that i blend in with the music...this is DJ'ing, you're supposed to get creative, so have fun with it and make people say..whoa, i've never heard that b4.
david lee
one f0rum under house
also....
i recently found out that one of my favorite clubs is a heavy user of cd's along with mostly vinyl...am i going to stop going there to hang out because of that, heck no....as long as it's rockin through the subs by the dancefloor i'm happy as a lark.
it's all about the music, yeah, there are purists, i'm kind of one of them, but the music is a lot more important.
i recently found out that one of my favorite clubs is a heavy user of cd's along with mostly vinyl...am i going to stop going there to hang out because of that, heck no....as long as it's rockin through the subs by the dancefloor i'm happy as a lark.
it's all about the music, yeah, there are purists, i'm kind of one of them, but the music is a lot more important.
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Tranceiant
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Personally, I love turntables, but i'm definately open to cd's. I want to get at least one Pio CDJ-1000. The "vinyl feel" option seems really cool, and I love the Idea of being able to loop, etc. But then again I want to get a sampler as well.
As for anyone that's saying that CDJs are not real DJ's, That's just plain ignorant. They're doin the exact same thing, they've just got different tools. You manipulate vinyl by touching it, you manipulate CD's by pressing buttons. Granted one may feel better than the other, but that doesn't mean it doesn't take skill!
As for anyone that's saying that CDJs are not real DJ's, That's just plain ignorant. They're doin the exact same thing, they've just got different tools. You manipulate vinyl by touching it, you manipulate CD's by pressing buttons. Granted one may feel better than the other, but that doesn't mean it doesn't take skill!
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djpimpdaddy
Guest
HAHA yeah I know what you mean about getting damaged goods in the mail from record shops. I have not had terrible luck but then again I hardly ever buy through mail order cause I have seen many a friend receive records broken in half or cracked around the egde where you can only play the second track if there is one. Sucks balls. He always has a bitch of a time with the companies when they do that shlT too.
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djstatik
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Turntablizm aside, things are going to change soon in the club world. The CDJ-1000 is cool but it still doesn't spin like a table. Once it revolves like a wheel of steel, with a spindle and all, you really have to think "what am I holding out for". You can care a 100 hours of music in one hand without your sholder dislocating. No needle skipping off the record when people start stompin'. No feedback from the PA. Every mp3 in the world at your fingertips, including your own mixes and creations.
Danny Tenaglia is a smart man. The same goes for Armand Van Helden. These guys are leaders. We should follow. When the next CDJ comes out with a wheel spinning at 33 1/3 that I can manipulate like a deck, I'm sellin' my 1210s. Nuff said.
Danny Tenaglia is a smart man. The same goes for Armand Van Helden. These guys are leaders. We should follow. When the next CDJ comes out with a wheel spinning at 33 1/3 that I can manipulate like a deck, I'm sellin' my 1210s. Nuff said.
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Conal
New member
Sorry this isn't strictly to the point but here goes...
I don't have decks or cdj yet but i'm thinking about it.
I am also going to get a new cd player and was wondering whether anyone thinks it would be a good idea to buy a CDJ for hi fi use. They cost at least double what a reasonable hi fi player does but I wouldn't be shelling out again if the time comes that I decide to add a CDJ to any set up i may have in the future.
What do they sound like compared to standard CD players? - seamless loops and effects are no good to me if they sounds rubbish, I could just spend £30 on a comparable sounding portable from Dixons if that is the case.
As far as the argument goes over the better format. Music is music no matter how its played, if you're in a club it makes no difference if the DJ can use both formats equally well - even though they may prefer to use one type over the other.
If you're in your bedroom then use whatever gives you the most enjoyment - but it may be that you really love a track but can't play it as you can only find it on CD
and you haven't got the means to play it.
Seems like most people think the same
I don't have decks or cdj yet but i'm thinking about it.
I am also going to get a new cd player and was wondering whether anyone thinks it would be a good idea to buy a CDJ for hi fi use. They cost at least double what a reasonable hi fi player does but I wouldn't be shelling out again if the time comes that I decide to add a CDJ to any set up i may have in the future.
What do they sound like compared to standard CD players? - seamless loops and effects are no good to me if they sounds rubbish, I could just spend £30 on a comparable sounding portable from Dixons if that is the case.
As far as the argument goes over the better format. Music is music no matter how its played, if you're in a club it makes no difference if the DJ can use both formats equally well - even though they may prefer to use one type over the other.
If you're in your bedroom then use whatever gives you the most enjoyment - but it may be that you really love a track but can't play it as you can only find it on CD
and you haven't got the means to play it.
Seems like most people think the same
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Housie
New member
I really don't understand how you would play CDs, unless you had to DJ at a top 40 club(if they still exist)...........I guess hip-hop comes out on CDs but they would never touch a CD. The only time any thing I am intrested (or the least bit underground for that matter) in comes out on a CD its always mixed anyway(and the tracks would already be out on vinyl). CDs(or MDs even better) would be great if you produce your own tracks, but I really doubt that is the case for most DJs. I don't know if EPs come out on CD in Europe but they never do in North America unless you want to play Madona....Angelic, I know this off the topic and not at all what you where meaning but Hip-Hoppers have been looping breaks for decades, it is really hard and takes experiance but you can put a certain kind of tape on you records to make it skip back...if you do it properly you can have if looping exactly one bar(consistently too).....I know two or three guys in town who can do this
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Emmett
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if you are solely using your pitch to cue up on turntables and you are not into battling/scratching and you dont touch your decks with your hands (accept to drop the record) is it really that much different to using a cd player? (ive only got tt's and not used cdj's) 
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Tranceiant
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Basically the reason I want a CDJ is cuz I wanna throw some of my own stuff into the mix sometime. I'm all set with it, I got the third chan on the mixer, now I just need a cd player.
Jiten
New member
i would prefer cd's, coz, cd's a lot chearper then records, we can burn our custome cd's, so we can choose, the song we wanna play, and just throw them on the cd and play them in the club, it easy and lot more cheeper, but scratching is not too good, and in records we can scratch but we cannot have our custom records.but the guy who plays only reords are teh real dj, but we have to take care of our pocket greens. so some guys use Cd's, i use both. when there is a genereal party, for about 6-9 hours i use Cd's but when i do live like the whole night, i use tts and records they are the real kids of scratching.
i think there is a solution for this, the www.finalscratch.com, play mp3s on a computer and scratch them on the TT, check the system out, it's the future of DJ's and Dj'in.
i think there is a solution for this, the www.finalscratch.com, play mp3s on a computer and scratch them on the TT, check the system out, it's the future of DJ's and Dj'in.
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caputo
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Vinyl all the way!!!!
Vinyl all the way!!!!
Vinyl all the way!!!!
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WackAttacka
Guest
cd are wack
Vinyl 4 sure
Vinyl 4 sure
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djstatik
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I challenge anyone to stand in front of a loudspeaker system pumping 12,000 watts and tell me if a brand new record is playing or a CD. 16 bit digital audio is good enough. Soon, there will be 24 bit 96khz SACDs.
Maybe that will be good enough for the 1 in 1000 that can tell a difference.
Vinyl is the preferred format for DJing because of the ability to handle it, to touch it. It is the only format of recording that has ever had this ability. CD's are easily at the other side of the spectrum. They spin at high rates of speed and are to small to be handled even if they could be.
The CDJ-1000 comes as close as any. With the wheel on top you can really do some manipulation. It's still not vinyl. Like I said, when they get a wheel rotating at 33 1/3 with a spindle I can grab if the mix starts creeping away from me, I will have bought my last record.
It is true most underground records come out on vinyl first, but within days someone has done a high quality rip of the vinyl to mp3. From there you can download and burn a CD. Someday folks, mark my words.
Maybe that will be good enough for the 1 in 1000 that can tell a difference.
Vinyl is the preferred format for DJing because of the ability to handle it, to touch it. It is the only format of recording that has ever had this ability. CD's are easily at the other side of the spectrum. They spin at high rates of speed and are to small to be handled even if they could be.
The CDJ-1000 comes as close as any. With the wheel on top you can really do some manipulation. It's still not vinyl. Like I said, when they get a wheel rotating at 33 1/3 with a spindle I can grab if the mix starts creeping away from me, I will have bought my last record.
It is true most underground records come out on vinyl first, but within days someone has done a high quality rip of the vinyl to mp3. From there you can download and burn a CD. Someday folks, mark my words.
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DJ Distinctive
Community Daddy
CD versus vinyl handling
Ask yourselves ;
How much is 'pure habits' and how much is real disadvantage/advantage ?
Human beings tend to cling onto what we are used to and don't want to change that. My father prefer to drive for an extra hour on an old road to avoid roundabouts, cause he don't like them. He has done this every day, so why change now? He doesn't bother to save 30 mins. it works for him ......
I bet no DJ's invented the electric car
Ask yourselves ;
How much is 'pure habits' and how much is real disadvantage/advantage ?
Human beings tend to cling onto what we are used to and don't want to change that. My father prefer to drive for an extra hour on an old road to avoid roundabouts, cause he don't like them. He has done this every day, so why change now? He doesn't bother to save 30 mins. it works for him ......
I bet no DJ's invented the electric car
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djstatik
New member
Disadvantages:
Cost - $7 - $11 per SINGLE
Durability - Scratches, warps, fingerprints
Transport - 80 records 50lbs 80 CDs 4lbs+50 more hours of music
Cost to put your own mixes on vinyl $25 - $50.
Cost to put your own mixes on CD 25 to 50 CENTS
I'm not going to sit here and tell you CDs sound better than vinyl. They don't. They do sound better than vinyl after 50 plays - GUARANTEED.
My mom used to mail letters to her friends. It was cheap, she enjoyed it, and in a few days her friends enjoyed reading them when the mailman delivered it.
She now has a computer and a free hotmail account. She now sends letters everyday. Her friends read them every day and enjoy that too.
Change can be good my friend. And change is inevitable.
Cost - $7 - $11 per SINGLE
Durability - Scratches, warps, fingerprints
Transport - 80 records 50lbs 80 CDs 4lbs+50 more hours of music
Cost to put your own mixes on vinyl $25 - $50.
Cost to put your own mixes on CD 25 to 50 CENTS
I'm not going to sit here and tell you CDs sound better than vinyl. They don't. They do sound better than vinyl after 50 plays - GUARANTEED.
My mom used to mail letters to her friends. It was cheap, she enjoyed it, and in a few days her friends enjoyed reading them when the mailman delivered it.
She now has a computer and a free hotmail account. She now sends letters everyday. Her friends read them every day and enjoy that too.
Change can be good my friend. And change is inevitable.
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Housie
New member
I've got nothing against CD's but I still don't understand where you get music unless you produce your self. MP3s are obviously not nearly good enough to be played in a club(let alone home), so where do you get you EPs?