Brother Ali Conflict

[Misery84]

I thought i broke it down for everybody o.k I'll make it more descriptive.
there are different forms of racism ,not always color though the majority is based on color,but the other half is based on class let me explain class. if you live in a country that you are not the minority you become judged by your own race by class ,if you are the minority you get judged by race. if you live in an all white neighbor hood ,and your white and all your neighbors are uptight ,tight pants wearing,collard shirt and tie wearing people ,and drive an expensive cars ,and has more money than you who is the total opposite cause you drive a cheap truck and wear t-shirts non-tucked ,and you listen to loud music in your car their gonna act like they don't know you ,and probably move away cause they think their better than you even though your doing the same thing as them trying to support your family ,but just because you don't make the same amount as they do or act and dress like them in their eye's your a different race same goes for black people but thats concerning class.

when i got arrested it was racism,when Cameron was harassed by the police for smoking on his porch thats another form of racism and it ain't right nobody should use the n-word i always say bruh and i hate it when black or white people say it i got kids and if i ever hear them saying that I'm a whoop dat azz that sh*t gotta stop.

 

[theillestone]

I'm out of my league in what way? What I've gathered of Epistemology is that it is a theory or philosophical way of thinking. The study of knowledge. Do you base all of your facts on theories? lol. Let me ask you this. Do you think the individualistic culture, you've pinned on white folks with out just saying it, has anything to do with the fact that white folks have been made to feel guilty about having any kind of pride in their race? Hmmmmmmm. You go ahead and group yourself though. If you want to be in the same group as 50 cent cool...lol I don't really want to be in the same group as K-Fed though. I'd rather be judged for who I am as an individual. Good luck and read another book for me.

I did not pin the notion of white nations, excuse me, western european nations as being indvidualistic. This is a known social fact! It is not considered racist, bad, or anything. LOL It is one of the things the defining aspects of the culture. Jus chill out...

But to answer your question... No

Western European culture as we know it today and experience it much like the air we breathe (we don't notice it), dervied from ancient Greece. It has nothing to do with the guilt that the white man may or may not feel, or the guilt you feel that the white may feel because of anything. It is about culture Western European culture that swas tarted in ancient Greece.

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I gotta run,

Ya'll be easy, I feel what your saying Misery84, I think eveyrone should lay off that word.


PEACE

 

[KS86]

When I said White nations I was refering to Western European Nations. Now that this issue is cleared up, what do you have to say?

Western European Nations have been out to get black and and brown nations are still out to get these nations. Their economic prosperity is determined by their continued political and economic contorl over these countries, what you refered to as "comparative advantage."

Well i'm glad you've made it a BIT clearer. As to the "black and brown" countries that you've lumped together...

Again, let me point out where your argument falls short.

By the same token, brown countries are exploiting brown people just as much.

I dont know if you've been to Saudi Arabia or the Emirates, but in those countries Indian and Pakistani workers are being paid a pittance to do menial jobs. Same goes for Singapore and Malaysia: exploitation of Indians and Pakistanis.

Then there's the exploitation of white Eastern European women, who are being enslaved into prostitution in western europe and even parts of the middle east (eg turkey).

It has nothing do to with race, but everything to do with wealth.

 

[C-Lovely]

White people will always be looked apon as being rich. Why? Because to many ignorant people feed into the stereotype. A white woman told me something that was a big eye opener. If a white man never has any black friends, how is that white man going to understand what a black man goes through or why black people think the way we do. Vice versa for blacks, if you don't have any white friends how can you really understand them. What's so crazy about racism is that we keep blaming a white person that we " don't know" for poverty or a black man " they don't know" for crime. Now is everyone in the world all in love with each other, hell no. But, if you really got to now some of those white people, with those nice houses and nice cars, some of them are struggling to keep it just like some of us black, hispanic, asian people are. They just don't braodcast it for image sake. Before hell freezes over I hope one day we can get pass all these darn stereotypes. As for brotha ali, he seems like a white man that tried o truly get to know black people and what they go through. Where is the dishonesty in that?

 

[Cameron Thomas]

I disagree but we can agree to disagree. Black power and white power are very similar phrases yet one is acceptable and the other is condemned. Both phrases equal the same thing. The seperation of races. This sh*t is really simple. You either want to be judged by the color of your skin which you have made apparent by classifying yourself as a brown person or you want to be judged for your individual accomplishments, morals and beliefs. If you want to be judged by the color of your skin, in your case brown then you will be judged according to every single persons actions who has brown skin. Humans are very negative and are going to judge you based moreso on the bad than the good. It's the same thing if I want to be classified as a white man. I'm going to take every negative stereotype the "white man" has. If that's what you want then you can't complain the next time somone judges you as a "brown person" before they even know who you are or what you're about. I'm sorry I don't want to be judged like that because I'm an individual. You just can't have it both ways. You either want to be an individual or you want to be categorized. The world may not be simple but this concept is.

White people will always be looked apon as being rich. Why? Because to many ignorant people feed into the stereotype. A white woman told me something that was a big eye opener. If a white man never has any black friends, how is that white man going to understand what a black man goes through or why black people think the way we do. Vice versa for blacks, if you don't have any white friends how can you really understand them. What's so crazy about racism is that we keep blaming a white person that we " don't know" for poverty or a black man " they don't know" for crime. Now is everyone in the world all in love with each other, hell no. But, if you really got to now some of those white people, with those nice houses and nice cars, some of them are struggling to keep it just like some of us black, hispanic, asian people are. They just don't braodcast it for image sake. Before hell freezes over I hope one day we can get pass all these darn stereotypes. As for brotha ali, he seems like a white man that tried o truly get to know black people and what they go through. Where is the dishonesty in that?

I agree with you completely. You can't seperate yourself. You should try to connect with people of all races, backgrounds and classes. You're doing yourself a favor by doing so. Some of the coolest people I've met I wouldn't have met if I made judgements based on skin.

The only dishonesty I was talking about with Brother Ali was leading people to believe he was a black albino man. Not just avoiding questions of race but calling himself a righteous black man. I'd need to know his reasons for doing so. If he's embarrassed to be white or lead people to believe he was black to gain acceptance or respect I can't support that. That just goes against what I believe to be honest. Part of the reason I dig his music so much is his attitude of I am who I am and you ain't gotta love me. It just makes me wonder if he feels like he can't be who really is.

 

[Staggerlee]

Just a lil bit of advice to everyone. If you wanna go far in life and especially the music business, keep your views on race, religion and politics to yourself, and dont be tempted to share them even when invited.
Its not that we should not be free to express these views, its just that they are so touchy that disharmony is created very easily as evident from the above posts. And disharmony kills progress and achievement.

 

[Cameron Thomas]

Just a lil bit of advice to everyone. If you wanna go far in life and especially the music business, keep your views on race, religion and politics to yourself, and dont be tempted to share them even when invited.
Its not that we should not be free to express these views, its just that they are so touchy that disharmony is created very easily as evident from the above posts. And disharmony kills progress and achievement.

Lol F*ck that. I'm not going to give up that freedom for a dollar. Are you kidding me?

 

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

I'm a black 10th grade dropout drug dealer from the slummiest parts of VA. I currently reside in the most expensive region to live in the U.S. and legally can afford to live here. That's the american dream, you don't get here blaming your failures in life on what obstacles you have to overcome.

You're not worth a penny more than you say you are, and you have no one to blame for your shortcomings except yourself. I have friends who were born with nothing(had to borrow bread from my broke azz)now owning mansions in their mid 20s legally. Others were born into families of millionaires turn up dead in a car full of work, I don't buy that plymouth rock landed on us sh*t in 2007.

Give it a rest, as long as you have something to blame failure on, you're comfortable failing.

 

[Cameron Thomas]

I'm a black 10th grade dropout drug dealer from the slummiest parts of VA. I currently reside in the most expensive region to live in the U.S. and legally can afford to live here. That's the american dream, you don't get here blaming your failures in life on what obstacles you have to overcome.

You're not worth a penny more than you say you are, and you have no one to blame for your shortcomings except yourself. I have friends who were born with nothing(had to borrow bread from my broke azz)now owning mansions in their mid 20s legally. Others were born into families of millionaires turn up dead in a car full of work, I don't buy that plymouth rock landed on us sh*t in 2007.

Give it a rest, as long as you have something to blame failure on, you're comfortable failing.

That's what I'm talking about. You may not be given every opportunity in life. You may be discriminated against. Life may completely sh*t on you but you still push forward. There will always be another dude with more opportunity than yourself regardless of what race you are. If I let obstacles stand in my way I'd be homeless right now. I'm not going to let obstacles get in my way in fact I just kind of laugh when it happens now. I'm no where near where I want to be but I'm content with what I have knowing hard work will get me more of what I want.

 

[Staggerlee]

I'm a black 10th grade dropout drug dealer from the slummiest parts of VA. I currently reside in the most expensive region to live in the U.S. and legally can afford to live here. That's the american dream, you don't get here blaming your failures in life on what obstacles you have to overcome.

You're not worth a penny more than you say you are, and you have no one to blame for your shortcomings except yourself. I have friends who were born with nothing(had to borrow bread from my broke azz)now owning mansions in their mid 20s legally. Others were born into families of millionaires turn up dead in a car full of work, I don't buy that plymouth rock landed on us sh*t in 2007.

Give it a rest, as long as you have something to blame failure on, you're comfortable failing.

Well, thats the realest talk Ive heard from you in a while. Props.

 

[C-Lovely]

I'm a black 10th grade dropout drug dealer from the slummiest parts of VA. I currently reside in the most expensive region to live in the U.S. and legally can afford to live here. That's the american dream, you don't get here blaming your failures in life on what obstacles you have to overcome.

You're not worth a penny more than you say you are, and you have no one to blame for your shortcomings except yourself. I have friends who were born with nothing(had to borrow bread from my broke azz)now owning mansions in their mid 20s legally. Others were born into families of millionaires turn up dead in a car full of work, I don't buy that plymouth rock landed on us sh*t in 2007.

Give it a rest, as long as you have something to blame failure on, you're comfortable failing.

To bad not alot more people think that way. Sh*t happens, but if you keep blaming everybody else you'll never get any where.

 

[bobsmitt]

yeah deranged that's some real ****.

btw arguing with theillestone is pointless. His opinions based on reading racism books will never change.

 

[Cameron Thomas]

I thought of another example of cops just being cops. When I was 19 I was working a landscaping job. I was installing a sprinkler system and my shorts were sagging slightly. A cop pulled up and told me to pull up my pants. I looked at the dude like he was crazy cause like I said my shorts were sagging just slightly. Nothing obnoxious. He said pull them up or I'll arrest you for indecent exposure. There are women and children who don't need to see that...lol My boss had to come over and give me his belt to make the cop go away. So believe me white folks get harrassed by cops as well. I'm not saying it's equal but just know that that kinda sh*t does happen.

 

[theillestone]

I thought of another example of cops just being cops. When I was 19 I was working a landscaping job. I was installing a sprinkler system and my shorts were sagging slightly. A cop pulled up and told me to pull up my pants. I looked at the dude like he was crazy cause like I said my shorts were sagging just slightly. Nothing obnoxious. He said pull them up or I'll arrest you for indecent exposure. There are women and children who don't need to see that...lol My boss had to come over and give me his belt to make the cop go away. So believe me white folks get harrassed by cops as well. I'm not saying it's equal but just know that that kinda sh*t does happen.

Are seriously going to try and pass off the treatment of people of color by police officers as "cops just being cops." That flies in the face of the historical record of the police terrorism that black people have faced and continue to face in this country. Your are spitting on the grave of people like Sean Bell by trying to pass the two over as being the same--that's very disrespectful to say the least.

Now let me tell you a story...

One my way home from school one year, after about 10 hour trek from Alabama to Texas, I finally hit the Dallas County Line. Now upon entering Dallas County I was speeding. I was pulled over. Now after the cop does calls for back and runs my plates he then sticks is 9mm in my face and orders to be get out the car. He claims MY car has been stolen. So I as sit in my car with this cops barrell pointed at my skull I am kinda shaken to say the least. Usually I will try and talk to plead my case but when a cop has a gun drawn you just do as your told. Mind you had all my belongings in my car. It was registered under my father's name which held the same address as the one on my liscenes. I told him I was driving home from school. I had my school I.D. on me. He kept asking me if the car was blue before. My car is white. It had scratches on it too, so the cop could see that it was not painted. Appraently the car that was actually stolen was blue. This ****in cop takes me into the station, along the way trying to make small talk (askin me if I play golf), like everything is cool and kosher. A moment ago he was shaking, holding a pistol, ready to blow my F*cking head off! I had to spend that night and a good portion of the next day in the county. This is just one of many stories I could share, this is not the latest story and it wasn't the first time (nor will it be the last).

But it dont even matter, cause you don't know what the F*uck your talking about. You do not expereince the same things that black people go through so cut the bull****. Sean Bell was shot 50 times by police officers in N.Y just a few months ago. Police terroristm is real and you ca go through the files and start pulling out case, after case, after case, of police terrorism, harrasment, and murder of black and brown people. So spare me your stories. For you to even sit here and try and make this argument really shows really whats up wit you. Your jus another undercover redneck.


You all think what deRanged said was cool, huh... It makes you feel real "comfortable" to hear that out of a good negro's mouth huh. Well all you suckas can co-sign on that mayonnaise mouth negro all you want. There is of plenty of us who know whats goin on like Dr. HAre explains here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2kJ56hSqo

What Malcolm said is still in effect and it is, and never was bull****, and one mayonnaise mouth negro does not change that.

Oh yea and f*ck the dude who tried to rationalize the treatment of black people by saying "**** happens."

 

[Misery84]

I thought of another example of cops just being cops. When I was 19 I was working a landscaping job. I was installing a sprinkler system and my shorts were sagging slightly. A cop pulled up and told me to pull up my pants. I looked at the dude like he was crazy cause like I said my shorts were sagging just slightly. Nothing obnoxious. He said pull them up or I'll arrest you for indecent exposure. There are women and children who don't need to see that...lol My boss had to come over and give me his belt to make the cop go away. So believe me white folks get harrassed by cops as well. I'm not saying it's equal but just know that that kinda sh*t does happen.

i bet that cop was white and he didn't want to see someone of his race dressing like that ,so he made you pull up your pants because he felt you was representing a culture he didn't like (black people) i noticed that white people are strict on dress code why is that. why do they try to make everybody dress like they in the 70's i want to hear the answer from a white person plz and im just curious not racist i've always wondered that.

 

[bobsmitt]

i bet that cop was white and he didn't want to see someone of his race dressing like that ,so he made you pull up your pants because he felt you was representing a culture he didn't like (black people) i noticed that white people are strict on dress code why is that. why do they try to make everybody dress like they in the 70's i want to hear the answer from a white person plz and im just curious not racist i've always wondered that.

i'm white and i don't get it either lol. maybe it's cus i'm a teenager.

btw theillestone the speaker claimed that the anti-child abuse stuff is because of racism. that is probably the most ridiculous statement ever! i agree there is racism but it bothers me how some black people chose to associate every single thing that could possibly prevent them from doing something as racism. some of that stuff isn't racism but w/e. i'm not gonna try to argue.

 

[Cameron Thomas]

Are seriously going to try and pass off the treatment of people of color by police officers as "cops just being cops." That flies in the face of the historical record of the police terrorism that black people have faced and continue to face in this country. Your are spitting on the grave of people like Sean Bell by trying to pass the two over as being the same--that's very disrespectful to say the least.

Now let me tell you a story...

One my way home from school one year, after about 10 hour trek from Alabama to Texas, I finally hit the Dallas County Line. Now upon entering Dallas County I was speeding. I was pulled over. Now after the cop does calls for back and runs my plates he then sticks is 9mm in my face and orders to be get out the car. He claims MY car has been stolen. So I as sit in my car with this cops barrell pointed at my skull I am kinda shaken to say the least. Usually I will try and talk to plead my case but when a cop has a gun drawn you just do as your told. Mind you had all my belongings in my car. It was registered under my father's name which held the same address as the one on my liscenes. I told him I was driving home from school. I had my school I.D. on me. He kept asking me if the car was blue before. My car is white. It had scratches on it too, so the cop could see that it was not painted. Appraently the car that was actually stolen was blue. This ****in cop takes me into the station, along the way trying to make small talk (askin me if I play golf), like everything is cool and kosher. A moment ago he was shaking, holding a pistol, ready to blow my F*cking head off! I had to spend that night and a good portion of the next day in the county. This is just one of many stories I could share, this is not the latest story and it wasn't the first time (nor will it be the last).

But it dont even matter, cause you don't know what the F*uck your talking about. You do not expereince the same things that black people go through so cut the bull****. Sean Bell was shot 50 times by police officers in N.Y just a few months ago. Police terroristm is real and you ca go through the files and start pulling out case, after case, after case, of police terrorism, harrasment, and murder of black and brown people. So spare me your stories. For you to even sit here and try and make this argument really shows really whats up wit you. Your jus another undercover redneck.


You all think what deRanged said was cool, huh... It makes you feel real "comfortable" to hear that out of a good negro's mouth huh. Well all you suckas can co-sign on that mayonnaise mouth negro all you want. There is of plenty of us who know whats goin on like Dr. HAre explains here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2kJ56hSqo

What Malcolm said is still in effect and it is, and never was bull****, and one mayonnaise mouth negro does not change that.

Oh yea and f*ck the dude who tried to rationalize the treatment of black people by saying "**** happens."

Your'e an extremist. You are no better than the terrorists you speak of. In no way was I trying to justify injustice. I know it occurs but I also know that at times when it is actually not occuring it is assumed that it is. You'd be the first to claim your arrest was racially motivated when in fact it just may not be. If this cop truly hated "brown people" I'm sure he wouldn't be trying to make small talk with you. Maybe he did hate "brown people" who knows. All I'm saying is every case isn't cut and dry. I was actually grabbed out of my home and cuffed by an officer for not allowing him into my home. I know my rights and know I don't have to let a cop into my home. This pissed him off and he decided to use force. If I wasn't white I could easily claim this to be racially motivated. Along with the many other times I've had confrontations with police officers. You say I spit in the face of those who have suffered injustice? Those who claim injustice when in fact it isn't injustice are the ones spitting in face of those who have suffered. I posted this before. I was jumped by a group of 5 or 6 dudes for standing up for a fast food employee they were harrassing. Not that it matters but they were black and so was the employee. What does matter is that when they got caught by police, in which I didn't even call, they claimed it to be racially motivated. They claimed I had used racial slurs against them and that's the reason they jumped me. Now to me that's really spitting in the face of those who have actually had to suffer racial injustice. That kinda sh*t occurs more than you think.

I breifly searched for the the Sean Bell story but I will have to read into it more. The conflict is this. There is another side to this story claiming that Sean Bell twice tried to run down the undercover officer after he had identified himself. Sean Bell and all the other men with him had all been arrested for illegal possession of weapons in the past. Now this is just another story and I can't make any kind of judgement unless I know exactly what happened. You read one side of the story and automatically assume it was racially motivated. The fact is you don't know and neither do I. Our justice system is f*cked and I know that but I also know that not everything is racially motivated.

Like I said before though. You're an extremist. You calling me an undercover redneck is no better than me using a racial slur against you. The difference is. I'm above that. As badly as you would like to make me out to be a racist, redneck or someone who hates "brown folk". It's not going to happen because it's not in me to dislike or hate an entire group of people based off the actions of some jackass on a message board. This isn't anger speaking. This is just me telling it how it is. You are a weak minded, easily influenced, imbusul. You set back "brown folk" more than I could ever set "brown folk" back. When are you going to wake the f*ck up and realize how much damage you are doing? People liked hearing what Deranged had to say because it's a story of triumph. He basically explained that he wasn't going to let anything hold him back. F*ck you for not acknowledging that as accomplishment. You're an ass and you are making yourself look that way. You don't represent "brown folk" so don't try to. You're a jackass who happens to be an african american. Nothing more.

i bet that cop was white and he didn't want to see someone of his race dressing like that ,so he made you pull up your pants because he felt you was representing a culture he didn't like (black people) i noticed that white people are strict on dress code why is that. why do they try to make everybody dress like they in the 70's i want to hear the answer from a white person plz and im just curious not racist i've always wondered that.

Could be or maybe he just felt like being an as*hole.

 

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

You all think what deRanged said was cool, huh... It makes you feel real "comfortable" to hear that out of a good negro's mouth huh. Well all you suckas can co-sign on that mayonnaise mouth negro all you want. There is of plenty of us who know whats goin on like Dr. HAre explains here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2kJ56hSqo

What Malcolm said is still in effect and it is, and never was bull****, and one mayonnaise mouth negro does not change that.

Lol, lemme tell you all about the good negro in question, mind you all I can post on a website is documented events, no under the radar sh*t that still wakes me up at 3am worrying if the cops will ever find out what I did.

I was born in Raleigh, NC. In a hood where niggas was so poor that they thought I was rich because my family had a car. Sold drugs since age 12 and out of my group of friends i was one of the latest ones to get into it. Had someone who was supposed to be my best friend try to kill me over a $1,300 chain that I "came across", and as a result a war started inside my hood between myself and dude along with 8 of our other childhood friends/now enemies that left 2 shot and 1 dead by age 16. Also got us all kicked out of High School beginning of 10th grade because of a non-related fight that my principal thought we were connected to. That's myself and 2 other guys I knew since we were babies going at 5 other guys I knew since we were babies until blood spilled. In this "war" I was also pistol whipped by a close friend and still can't see correctly out of my left eye because of it. I'm reminded everytime I look at anything how good "mayonaise" tastes.

I did so much crime in NC, the police bullied me. Would stop me and just take my money. I once punched a detective in the face because earlier that week while I was in cuffs he let a dog loose to attack me while I was handcuffed faced down on the ground. His partner knew if they arrested me for punching dude alot of other sh*t they did to me and my friends would come up, so instead 2 mid 20s to 30 officers beat the crap out of my then 16 year old azz for about 30 mins. I had 14 arrests on my record(no felonies, guess I was lucky)when I left NC to get a new life in VA.

F**k racial profiling, while living in Newport News, VA I was arrested for an armed robbery and faced 10 years in prison for the one time in my life when I did absolutely nothing. I sat in a restaraunt, ate a burger, walked out and was greeted by SWAT. The owner of the restaraunt had survelance of me eating at the time the incident occured, the victim didn't point me out as the guy, I still sat in jail a month and a half before being given bail. I was stopped by the cops everytime I drove up Jefferson Ave. because "I fit the description" of someone doing a crime. Everytime I was stopped they threw my sh*t around, went thru my trunk, ripped off door panels, and found something to arrest me for. My license was suspended 3 times in a 2 year period, hasn't been suspended once in Cali. Not even a speeding ticket on my record since being here.

All that, and I still believe you make your own path in life. What's your "good Negro" story?

 

[TheRiddler]

I've been given the runaround by more jobs than i can count bc of my age and appearance or bc I had no real experience. Big suprise there huh? Let's face it, teenagers and young people don't get respect in this society in alot of ways. It is probably easier to get a scholarship in this country if you are a minority. I know there are probably ten articles on wikipedia that prove me wrong, but things aren't as absolute as the illestone wants to make them. I've worked with people that can't speak english and had a boss who's first language was spanish. At the end of the day I'm responsible for myself and even if I did have a disadvantage that's part of my own struggle. I think you are undervaluing people when you make such generalizing statements, but that's just me. Excuses are weak, end of story.

"We are not in a position in which we have nothing to work with. We already have capacities, talents, direction, missions, and callings." - Abraham H. Maslow

And for the record I'm Indian so I appreciate Illestone speaking for all brown skin people.

 

[theillestone]

Your'e an extremist. You are no better than the terrorists you speak of. In no way was I trying to justify injustice. I know it occurs but I also know that at times when it is actually not occuring it is assumed that it is. You'd be the first to claim your arrest was racially motivated when in fact it just may not be. If this cop truly hated "brown people" I'm sure he wouldn't be trying to make small talk with you. Maybe he did hate "brown people" who knows. All I'm saying is every case isn't cut and dry. I was actually grabbed out of my home and cuffed by an officer for not allowing him into my home. I know my rights and know I don't have to let a cop into my home. This pissed him off and he decided to use force. If I wasn't white I could easily claim this to be racially motivated. Along with the many other times I've had confrontations with police officers. You say I spit in the face of those who have suffered injustice? Those who claim injustice when in fact it isn't injustice are the ones spitting in face of those who have suffered. I posted this before. I was jumped by a group of 5 or 6 dudes for standing up for a fast food employee they were harrassing. Not that it matters but they were black and so was the employee. What does matter is that when they got caught by police, in which I didn't even call, they claimed it to be racially motivated. They claimed I had used racial slurs against them and that's the reason they jumped me. Now to me that's really spitting in the face of those who have actually had to suffer racial injustice. That kinda sh*t occurs more than you think.

I breifly searched for the the Sean Bell story but I will have to read into it more. The conflict is this. There is another side to this story claiming that Sean Bell twice tried to run down the undercover officer after he had identified himself. Sean Bell and all the other men with him had all been arrested for illegal possession of weapons in the past. Now this is just another story and I can't make any kind of judgement unless I know exactly what happened. You read one side of the story and automatically assume it was racially motivated. The fact is you don't know and neither do I. Our justice system is f*cked and I know that but I also know that not everything is racially motivated.

Like I said before though. You're an extremist. You calling me an undercover redneck is no better than me using a racial slur against you. The difference is. I'm above that. As badly as you would like to make me out to be a racist, redneck or someone who hates "brown folk". It's not going to happen because it's not in me to dislike or hate an entire group of people based off the actions of some jackass on a message board. This isn't anger speaking. This is just me telling it how it is. You are a weak minded, easily influenced, imbusul. You set back "brown folk" more than I could ever set "brown folk" back. When are you going to wake the f*ck up and realize how much damage you are doing? People liked hearing what Deranged had to say because it's a story of triumph. He basically explained that he wasn't going to let anything hold him back. F*ck you for not acknowledging that as accomplishment. You're an ass and you are making yourself look that way. You don't represent "brown folk" so don't try to. You're a jackass who happens to be an african american. Nothing more.



Could be or maybe he just felt like being an as*hole.

If it makes me an extremist because I don't adhere to your narrow understanding of issues of race and race relations then, YES, I am an extremist. So if I appear upset to you it is because you are so at ease the current state of things.

Sean Bell, unarmed, shot 50 times by the police. 50 times! Your right they jus didn't like his baggy pants.

I think your mistaken, a redneck implies that your are ignorant, white and racist, and usually poor and from the south. When I call you an undercover redneck I am implying that you white, your ignorant, and your racist, however you carry on as if your not. pssss...[he thinks the Sean Bell incident was not racially motivated]



All ya'll see this right????

Everyone is so proud that you did not stoop to my level. You have so much dignity and it shining through. LOL Please...


He calls me an "extremist" like thats supposed to mean something to me LOL. DeRanged makes you feel comfortable that's why you like his statements, he stays in his place. I don't recall a story of "triumph" just a cat giving his opinion. Ofcourse you would like to hold him up as the "model black man." He perscribes to your same mainstream views. However if we continue on with things as usual more black men will be in prison by 2020 that were ever in slavery. But we all jus need to "get over it."

Your so wack its pathetic. That is why Brother Ali probably went off, he realizes that most of his fanbase is white (as is most of those who follow Rhymesayers) and they don't even really understand what it is he is saying. LOL They, like you think everything is cool. (thats why they dont think the n-word is such a big deal). When he steps out that comfortable box that makes you feel good, you write a letter about how "conflicted" you are now. LOL awwwww

Then you try to cover it by saying that your real issue is that he lied about his ethnicty. HUMMMMMMM

Let's be for real. He said something that made the undercover redneck reveal his true colors. That's all. That's what you whole letter was about. Brother Ali said some real $hit that didn't fit into your perception of the world...