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hansk
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Any suggestions about the single dj cd player from american dj pro scratch one. Is it any good? How does it compare to the omnitronic DJS 1100 Scratch Workstation?
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captdoobij
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i was on hold while calling pssl.com and heard a demo session with the various features of it. The effects are pretty cool and work nicely. the scratching is also pretty realistic but doesnt have that edge that vinyl givves you. sounded good over the phone, dont really know much about cdj's so dont hold me to it without trying it out for yourself
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homegrown
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heres an idea, buy a turntable, and learn how to scratch properly instead of using some artificial crap
if u do it properly, then you are a credited dj, dont expect to have it automatically done for you on some fagot *** cd deck.
this is thinking in microwaves, everything has to be done now
try using an oven for a while, and wait a little bit longer, and get a better result
if u do it properly, then you are a credited dj, dont expect to have it automatically done for you on some fagot *** cd deck.
this is thinking in microwaves, everything has to be done now
try using an oven for a while, and wait a little bit longer, and get a better result
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reetardo
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get some 1200's
rergardless what they will tell you they are never going to be as good as vynal, scratching is for vynal not for compact disk
rergardless what they will tell you they are never going to be as good as vynal, scratching is for vynal not for compact disk
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hansk
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hi there
i got two 1200s and a pioneer 500S.
so I am already in the stakes . I just wanted to know if anybody has experience with the make. The scratching doesnt bother me. Its the effects, the loop and the sampling sections that i am interested in.
bye
i got two 1200s and a pioneer 500S.
so I am already in the stakes . I just wanted to know if anybody has experience with the make. The scratching doesnt bother me. Its the effects, the loop and the sampling sections that i am interested in.
bye
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skelz-E-
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I am looking at buying some cdj's for mixing, but I was looking at getting some Pio 100s coz I heard they're really reliable, and I was also looking at a 3-4 channel mixer with crossfader curve and adding a turntable to the setup so that I can scratch over my mixing...
sound any good?
sound any good?
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Franzino
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After hearing some opinions about American DJ it seems that this brand isn't playing with the big boys. If we are talking about DJ CD player there are 3 major brands: Denon, Pioneer and Tascam. They produce real high- end material used by professionals. For example Tascam is well known for its studio equipment and there are now making DJ stuff with the same high standard. If a club has some CD players it will be mostly be a Denon or Pioneer and the Pioneer DJM-600 is a mixer that's seems to replace the well know Rodec MX-180 in the clubs. American DJ is IMO in the same area as Gemini, JB-systems, etc. You won't find these brands in any club or used by real pro's. I'm not saying those brands are crap, but IMO those products don't have the same quality. That's what I experienced with Gemini and JB-systems.
Also don't let the main reason for buying a DJ CD player be in some cases the ability to scratch. Ok the American DJ Pro Scratch 1 looks cool. Because it seems like the whole CD player is designed to scratch. With the big jog dial resembling a platter from a TT. It looks nice, but looks aren't that important. Your audience won't give damn how cool looking your CD players are. It's how good the produced sound is, that will get there attention. Whatever CD player you buy, keep in mind that scratching on a CD player is limited in use. Also the delivered scratching sound is different from player to player. The best scratching is still done on a TT and will probably stay so for a long time. I have a Tascam CD-302 and spin mostly house and trance. Occasionally I use the scratch function and it sounds pretty good. I also have 1 Technics in my setup but I am not so much into vinyl.
In this thread there's an opinion from Alex TC concerning the American DJ Pro Scratch 1.
http://www.onlinedj.com/board/showt...p?threadid=1498
Also don't let the main reason for buying a DJ CD player be in some cases the ability to scratch. Ok the American DJ Pro Scratch 1 looks cool. Because it seems like the whole CD player is designed to scratch. With the big jog dial resembling a platter from a TT. It looks nice, but looks aren't that important. Your audience won't give damn how cool looking your CD players are. It's how good the produced sound is, that will get there attention. Whatever CD player you buy, keep in mind that scratching on a CD player is limited in use. Also the delivered scratching sound is different from player to player. The best scratching is still done on a TT and will probably stay so for a long time. I have a Tascam CD-302 and spin mostly house and trance. Occasionally I use the scratch function and it sounds pretty good. I also have 1 Technics in my setup but I am not so much into vinyl.
In this thread there's an opinion from Alex TC concerning the American DJ Pro Scratch 1.
http://www.onlinedj.com/board/showt...p?threadid=1498
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homegrown
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skelz-E-
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Franzino,
Does this mean that you have two cd dj's and a tt, coz thats what I'm looking at getting (Technics 1200 for scratching and two pio 100s) and I was wondering if that is a good setup?
Does this mean that you have two cd dj's and a tt, coz thats what I'm looking at getting (Technics 1200 for scratching and two pio 100s) and I was wondering if that is a good setup?
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Franzino
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I have 1 Technics SL MKII, 1 Tascam CD-302 (twin CD player) and a DJM-300. But I spin mostly CD's. I can handle the two media types vinyl and CD. Don't know why but I like spinning with CD's over vinyl. Some people like to have the stuff (vinyl) in their hand. I don't. And thrust me I don't spin top 40 music. If you think you are limited in mixing with the use of DJ CD players. That's not true. With the Tascam you can do everything you can do with a TT. If you are able to do it, but the equipment is up to it. Only extensively scratching is always better done on a TT.
For me it is just a small adaptation when mixing with vinyl. When I go visit my friend, whose is a 100% vinyl DJ we spin on his TT's and It takes some getting use to. But in the end it is the same. You have a pitch control slider and the ability to pitch bend with both vinyl and CD. And that are the mean things in mixing, I don't see the big deal some people make about this CD vs Vinyl. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Still there are some people who have some prejudice about CD dj's. But what the hell, **** them.
For me it is just a small adaptation when mixing with vinyl. When I go visit my friend, whose is a 100% vinyl DJ we spin on his TT's and It takes some getting use to. But in the end it is the same. You have a pitch control slider and the ability to pitch bend with both vinyl and CD. And that are the mean things in mixing, I don't see the big deal some people make about this CD vs Vinyl. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Still there are some people who have some prejudice about CD dj's. But what the hell, **** them.
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Franzino
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By the way, I am not so much into scratching. I don't use that TT for only scratching. I think I use the scratch function of the Tascam more the doing it with the TT 
. I spin House & HardTrance and I use this extra TT to spin my older vinyl and hard to find on CD stuff. But in your case it would be very nice to have an extra TT to do some scratching.
. I spin House & HardTrance and I use this extra TT to spin my older vinyl and hard to find on CD stuff. But in your case it would be very nice to have an extra TT to do some scratching.
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Angelic DeeJay
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Franzino said:
AMEN!!!!
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Tricky
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double amen
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Alex TC
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Make it triple!
But back to the topic, the guy was just asking about the AMDJ Pro-S, so here's the lowdown for me: It's a Pio CDJ100S copycat w/ some added (and rather usefull to be 100% honest) features.
Very intuitive and easy to get the grips with. The effects, that's pretty basics these days coming to digital technology so it MUST be sorted out at least decently. That's what u get w/ the Pro-S, BUT if u're lloking for efx I'd suggest go get a decent effector and some basic but reliable digidecks like some CDJ's so u can effect ALL your music.
The AMDJ loop is not as precise as Pio's, but then no other cd decks is for that matter (believe me, I should know what I'm talking about 'cos I own a Tascam 302 and I keep my words on the issue!), but one could get used to it pretty quickly.
The scratch, hmmm... it's too "digital" IMHO, sounds like robotized music. Tascam is still leading the game here bar none, as Denon's scratch is an useless joke. But it was amply discussed here, if scratch is your game then go for the real thing (ie vinyl turntables).
Overall, it's an advanced deck but it costs a good lot and u need 2 of'em - and I'm not sure about the reliability records on the thing. IMO reliability is VERY important coming to digital performance, vital if u will.
I'm not trying to patronize anyone here, I'm just honest and straight as I can, and only about stuff I've tried or heard for myself in action. I've never used or heard the AMDJ in action at a club or gig - maybe that says something about it, but maybe not - but I've had it a hand on the shop and that's how it sounded to me at the time. So I suggest a personal visit to the shop and a quickie on the rig.
Peace
But back to the topic, the guy was just asking about the AMDJ Pro-S, so here's the lowdown for me: It's a Pio CDJ100S copycat w/ some added (and rather usefull to be 100% honest) features.
Very intuitive and easy to get the grips with. The effects, that's pretty basics these days coming to digital technology so it MUST be sorted out at least decently. That's what u get w/ the Pro-S, BUT if u're lloking for efx I'd suggest go get a decent effector and some basic but reliable digidecks like some CDJ's so u can effect ALL your music.
The AMDJ loop is not as precise as Pio's, but then no other cd decks is for that matter (believe me, I should know what I'm talking about 'cos I own a Tascam 302 and I keep my words on the issue!), but one could get used to it pretty quickly.
The scratch, hmmm... it's too "digital" IMHO, sounds like robotized music. Tascam is still leading the game here bar none, as Denon's scratch is an useless joke. But it was amply discussed here, if scratch is your game then go for the real thing (ie vinyl turntables).
Overall, it's an advanced deck but it costs a good lot and u need 2 of'em - and I'm not sure about the reliability records on the thing. IMO reliability is VERY important coming to digital performance, vital if u will.
I'm not trying to patronize anyone here, I'm just honest and straight as I can, and only about stuff I've tried or heard for myself in action. I've never used or heard the AMDJ in action at a club or gig - maybe that says something about it, but maybe not
- but I've had it a hand on the shop and that's how it sounded to me at the time. So I suggest a personal visit to the shop and a quickie on the rig.Peace
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hansk
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omnitronic djs 1100 scratch ws
well thanx
interesting is also the fact that nobody mentions the omnitronic djs 1100 cd player which also boast more or less the same features as the ADJ Pro S1 . It also must be more of a toy than a serious professional tool bot maybe I am wrong. So I ask if anybody has experiences with the other cd player to compare than i would be grateful
I have already two 1210 and a pioneer 500 S. so thats not the point, i dont care for scratching with cds either. but i need a second cd player with loops and effex which is reliable..
hans
well thanx
interesting is also the fact that nobody mentions the omnitronic djs 1100 cd player which also boast more or less the same features as the ADJ Pro S1 . It also must be more of a toy than a serious professional tool bot maybe I am wrong. So I ask if anybody has experiences with the other cd player to compare than i would be grateful
I have already two 1210 and a pioneer 500 S. so thats not the point, i dont care for scratching with cds either. but i need a second cd player with loops and effex which is reliable..
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Alex TC
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Well Hansk, I'll insist on my point: IMO u have some great equip already, can't go much better than w/ the 500's (I won't even mention the 1210's ), and again IMHO if u want to add effetcs then get a dedicated unit (like a Pio EFX500, Kaoss pad or an Electrix rig...), 'cos doing so u'll be able to effect all your music, be it from your cd's or TT's.
Effects on cd decks are a bonus, biased more to gimmicky than to act as serious tools (although some digedecks have really usefull and rather pro effectors added).
Don't ever downgrade on the basics of an equipment (and IMO yours is the best) to get gimmicks is my advice for you. Like, when choosing a mixer, look for good mixing qualities instead of focusing on efx and the stuff. Same goes for cd's, don't be fooled by manufacturers that make such things as selling points and skimp on the real important features...
), and again IMHO if u want to add effetcs then get a dedicated unit (like a Pio EFX500, Kaoss pad or an Electrix rig...), 'cos doing so u'll be able to effect all your music, be it from your cd's or TT's. Effects on cd decks are a bonus, biased more to gimmicky than to act as serious tools (although some digedecks have really usefull and rather pro effectors added).
Don't ever downgrade on the basics of an equipment (and IMO yours is the best) to get gimmicks is my advice for you. Like, when choosing a mixer, look for good mixing qualities instead of focusing on efx and the stuff. Same goes for cd's, don't be fooled by manufacturers that make such things as selling points and skimp on the real important features...
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hansk
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hi alex
thanx for your reply.
the thing is i need a tool for playing loops beside my pioneer 500S and my mixing desk (also a pioneer 500 DJM)
i also got the kaoss pad, i just need a cd player which does exactly the thing i need. playing loops, applying effects to it , thats it. I only do sound collages and a bit of dj mixing but not in the ordinary way. I am playing indian remixes , bhangra and stuff like that, which mostly is only available on cd.
bye
hans
thanx for your reply.
the thing is i need a tool for playing loops beside my pioneer 500S and my mixing desk (also a pioneer 500 DJM)
i also got the kaoss pad, i just need a cd player which does exactly the thing i need. playing loops, applying effects to it , thats it. I only do sound collages and a bit of dj mixing but not in the ordinary way. I am playing indian remixes , bhangra and stuff like that, which mostly is only available on cd.
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Alex TC
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Ok, I think now I got your business!
Considering that I'd say the AMDJ might be to you, but before going for the shop I strongly reccomend that u take a look at the Tascam 302 (I own one myself), 'cos it's a very capable and feature-filled cd deck, very intuitive (therefore usefull) and complete for studio/live mixing purposes. Plus it's quite precise and fast, is amply programmable even on-the-fly and has some trick up its sleeves.
It has loop and 10 sec. sample on each deck (the sample has reverse and loop features, all ajustable as to pitch, tempo, etc...), just to name a few. It has no effects but since u have a Kaoss pad I figure u won't be doing double-fx on your music - or would u??
Considering that I'd say the AMDJ might be to you, but before going for the shop I strongly reccomend that u take a look at the Tascam 302 (I own one myself), 'cos it's a very capable and feature-filled cd deck, very intuitive (therefore usefull) and complete for studio/live mixing purposes. Plus it's quite precise and fast, is amply programmable even on-the-fly and has some trick up its sleeves.
It has loop and 10 sec. sample on each deck (the sample has reverse and loop features, all ajustable as to pitch, tempo, etc...), just to name a few. It has no effects but since u have a Kaoss pad I figure u won't be doing double-fx on your music - or would u??
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Alex TC
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BTW, here's the pic of the new Omnitronic CD Scratch Workstation (sampler, DSP effects, interactive scratch _ whatever that means... - slot in system (hmmm, yummy
notice the emphasis on the scratch feature...) and the whole lot we're used to. Looks a lot like the Sony MD DJ station. Don't ask about the perofrmance, I've never seen, heard or played one (yet).Damn, I'vr got the pic but where's the image??? Where are u guys hosting the pics to be posted? Any help? (It's woth it... I promisse)
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hansk
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hi alex
i also got the sony md dre 1 (its the dj minidiskplayer ) with big jog wheel and stuff but its not so great. the feature of recording and playing back from the same disk is ok though. I use it now until i got the new cd player....
i also got the sony md dre 1 (its the dj minidiskplayer ) with big jog wheel and stuff but its not so great. the feature of recording and playing back from the same disk is ok though. I use it now until i got the new cd player....