The Pussification Of Men...

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barrettj said:
all i will say is you should b very happy there are still some who will stand up against certain shit cuz if everyone shared your view 2012 would b comin early
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I stand up for plenty. I'm standing up in this thread against intolerance. Is that standing up for any less than what you're standing up for? And standing up against gay things on TV will prevent apocalypse? (I assume thats what you meant by saying "2012"). Illogical comments by you.

@Rome - Indeed, we agree to disagree.
 
IanMathews said:
I stand up for plenty. I'm standing up in this thread against intolerance. Is that standing up for any less than what you're standing up for? And standing up against gay things on TV will prevent apocalypse? (I assume thats what you meant by saying "2012"). Illogical comments by you.

@Rome - Indeed, we agree to disagree.
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Some interesting stuff going on in this thread.

Ian,
your heart seems to be in the right place. but i have to tell you, they are working you. the media has blurred the line in such a way that there can be virtually no gray area in someones stance anymore.

the only way to not be considered homophobic anymore is to just flat out be gay. and its killing the gay movement.
Often times people who mean well try to take on someones movement and end up slightly (or in this case greatly) missing the point.
there are huge issues going on in gay rights that are greatly affecting that community in a negative way but we are forced to focus on the latest celebrity who said a mean thing about them instead of fixing real problems.
they did the same thing to black folks and we are still feeling the sting. you can pretty much be the biggest racist in the world against blacks (see rush limbaugh) as long as you don't actually get caught saying the N word because thats all people think is racist now.

you equating the TPOM movement; which is really just a bunch of guys that don't think being forcefed a culture into acceptance is right (which in turn is logical form of thinking) is an anti gay movement which it really isn't.
just for good measure

TUNE TOWN: MISSING THE POINT: How trying to appear cultured can make things worse
 
Ian Matthews has always acted like a girl though....

i constantly have to go head to head with him in the BREAKROOM

He still believes this world is nice.
 
and Ian,
NONE of that was a diss aimed at you or anyone for that matter.
 
Joey Tunez got it right. We (or our kids) shouldn't have to be subjected to their "preference". They need their own channel or they need to leave some things implied.

But nooo... they say "You're a dinosaur! You support hatred!"... I say "I disagree with what you're doing and there's no way I could be sure of your preference if you didn't throw it all up in my face".

It's almost the equivalent of wearing a T-shirt that says "I go downtown" to church.

"Hey, it's my T-shirt! It's just fabric! Why hate on fabric!"


... and all of the church people say "You don't get it"
 
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It wouldn't even be so bad if it was a genuine feeling or nothing, but as a marketer by trade i can smell a product being pushed through the media from a mile away.

There used to be this hillarious jim carey skit on the later seasons of in living color where he would go around telling everyone he was gay and premptively shun them for there intolerance, despite....them not being intolerant at all.

jim: im gay you know
guy: okay...... so
jim: so i wont let you get away with those homophobic remarks
guy: i didn't say anything at all sir, i don't know you
jim: well just in case you were thinking it!
Does it not seem weird at all that a medium like hip hop went from being hyper masculine to being uber fem in a manner of few years?
Does it not seem odd that every week there is a new celeb that has to come out of they're persona to retract statements even remotely viewed as "homophobic"? (most of the time its something taken out of context).

Kobe calling a ref a faggot is not exactly the Westboro church but you wouldn't know the difference by the way the media handles it.

also i am a little unnerved by the fact that the media has seemingly taken aim at its favorite target; hip hop as if we are the cause of the problems.
 
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and Ian,
NONE of that was a diss aimed at you or anyone for that matter.
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Not taking anything in here as a diss, that's for sure. But still, I really disagree with all that stuff you wrote up there. "They are working you." What does that even mean? Who? The media? I understand that you don't know me apart from any other handle on any other forum, but you are baselessly judging me because I expressed an honest opinion. "The only way not to be homophobic is to be gay?" Whaaaaaat? Again, in the media? Yo, i do NOT care about the media. You're getting me wrong, now.

And then you're gonna link me to an article like that? Again, you assume too much. I'm not missing anyone's point. I'm just not feelin some of the comments earlier.

"He still thinks this world is nice." - Absolutely wrong about me. I've just learned to handle the fact that it's NOT nice, and work within the wack-ass parameters, without freaking out about every little thing that doesn't even really matter in life. It's nice to have extra time to do fun things instead of posting vids about Barack Obama's birth cert. and trying to solve every little detail. Shit was wack before you. Shit will be wack after you.
 
IanMathews > Lurkers who won't post their thoughts

Props to Ian...

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The Kobe Bryant + Joakim Noah stuff was ridiculous...

That's that TOP DOWN power I was talking about. You can support Kobe and Joakim but now due to all the hoopla... they have tried to shut everyone up a little bit... and they succeeded. Dudes can't even be B Ball players like they want to.

Sort of like when they made them wear suits and stuff.

NBA "We tell you what to wear and what not to say... we'll fine ya gosh darn it!"


... a win for the "other" team.
 
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biggrome said:
Joey Tunez got it right. We (or our kids) shouldn't have to be subjected to their "preference". They need their own channel or they need to leave some things implied.

But nooo... they say "You're a dinosaur! You support hatred!"... I say "I disagree with what you're doing and there's no way I could be sure of your preference if you didn't throw it all up in my face".

It's almost the equivalent of wearing a T-shirt that says "I go downtown" to church.

"Hey, it's my T-shirt! It's just fabric! Why hate on fabric!"


... and all of the church people say "You don't get it"
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gotta disagree with ya rome. I don't think you support hatred at all and is just concerned with what you consider acceptable to your children. I have no problem with that at all. I just disagree with putting up a double standard based on a persons sexual preference. I'm just saying fairness to all. so if a woman and a man kissing is ok then so is a woman and a woman or a man and a man even though it would make me uncomfortable
 
joey tunez said:
the media has blurred the line in such a way that there can be virtually no gray area in someones stance anymore
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wow...does the media really got this whole shit on LOCKDOWN like that???

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i'm glad to see FP WA (state) in the building...dropping LOGIC and CRITICAL THOUGHT on cats....
 
Ian,
im saying "they are working you" (yes Ian, they being the media) because much of the thoughts that express as your own eerily fit the usual word for word montras of the people who are clearly "taken over". your right in that i don't know you from a can of paint, but your arguments sound very familiar.

as far as the "the only way not to be seen as homophobic is to be gay" line. yes again, the media.
i really doubt you read anything past the title of the blog entry because if you did you wouldn't be insulted. it goes on to talk about pretty much what this is about.

** the following is key **

people don't like to really dig in to things when it comes to knowing certain characteristics (such as racism).
there are a number of things that can be racist (redlining housing for minorities for example was a detramentally racist act that partly accounts for the existence of the ghettos today) but its much easier to label things for the masses in a way that can be identified without much consideration.
after a while, the idea of a racist person goes from someone who truly believes in racial heiarchy to simply someone who blurts the N word out over an open mic. when someone comes along with a TRUE moment of racism (like a local judge in seattle who wrote about how all blacks have a crime problem) it gets passed over.

this happens in the gay rights movement as well.
instead of talking about the evils of prop 8, dispelling myths about gays in the military, or anything else substantial to the movement, we get hillary duff and wanda sykes telling us not to use the word gay to describe stuff.

please tell me you get me now.
don't think i was making any assumptions on you, wasn't the case. i was just going against your argument.
the bottom line is you can't fight what you percieve as intolerance (which is really just dislike) with "Tyranny Tolerance", its the equivalent of forcing two kids who don't like each other to shake hands, it won't fix anything.
 
KelevraOne said:
so if a woman and a man kissing is ok then so is a woman and a woman or a man and a man even though it would make me uncomfortable
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Wouldn't you rather the uncomfortable stuff not pop up in the middle of the comfortable stuff without warning?

Shouldn't the uncomfortable stuff be on it's own channel and shouldn't I be given a certain level of control over it.

Like the TV shows will show you some letters and a rating that says "This show contains blah blah" but the commercials don't. They should add some more letters and filters that say "This show may contribute to TPOM" <--- and it should say that exactly, nothing politically correct.
 
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and Kev,
you right. i hate to see pretty much ALL public displays of affection.
a peck on the cheek or lips or something or holding hands is fine. but i would have a difficult time taking my nieces out if i knew they would see folks full on making out in front of them. thats nasty straight or gay.
 
I'm gonna be done with this thread. lol

Just gonna leave you with this. Lots of poeple on here keep sayin, "The media this, the media that," and you're linking stories off the internet to back your point. What do you think the internet is? NOT media?? They are pandering to the other side of the coin - you. They know you're out there. And you're being trained by it the same way the sheeple are being taught by CNN. That's all I'm sayin.
 
Ian raced home to watch the TeleTubbies...


j/k


Ha - thread turned out to be decent after all.

Props to everyone expressing opinions. On either side.
 
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editted as i realized he was talking to others.

lol @ being a homophobe if you say faggot but no one is getting the lil b is using the gay movement to make money with his new album and says faggot on a daily basis. oh the irony
 
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I also doubt if Kobe Bryant was the first player in the NBA to use the "slang"... it's just more proof that TPOM is real. In 2011, the "slang" will cost you $100,000 in fines.

Sends a shocking message to the youth. The N word is a term of endearment and everyone should be able to say it, the F word will get you raked across the coals.
 
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