propellerheads are soon gonna announce something new/ The Reason 5 thread

[mrgibbs]

yeah i remember when i played that song on my very first computer ,which was a amd athlon 64 3200+ and it had it in submission.lol since then i updated to some hardware that eats the song for breakfast even tho most of my resources go unused being that reason cannot fully take advantage of a quad plus reason is not 64 bit ,but with reason 5 i feel a bit underwhelmed about it because the update was minimal to me ,because i now use vsts with reason rewired and the features added been in fl studio for years.smh

well first off i you had reason 4 and your computer wasn't up to par as far as the minium specs then that was your computer not reason.

 

[dabeatdoctor1989]

Once again this isn't for rewire clients
This is for Reason Users

Smh @ this logic ,Rewire Clients for the most part = Reason users , I swear prop fans are delusional when it comes to releases ,they release a few features that have been available forever and people are praising them for it instead of placing the need for them to get with the times ,I was using Reason Standalone for years up until now ,it was killing my creativity because you had to do a bunch of workarounds just to do things that are easy in other sequencers...smh they fell off hard as far as I'm concerned ,they are busy trying very hard to be "different" but at the same time not realizing that they are behind the pack now ,what are they making production software for?? their brand name or musicians? they need to start listening to some of these requests that people have that are reasonable(no pun) instead of doing their own thing.

 

[mrgibbs]

Smh @ this logic ,Rewire Clients for the most part = Reason users , I swear prop fans are delusional when it comes to releases ,they release a few features that have been available forever and people are praising them for it instead of placing the need for them to get with the times ,I was using Reason Standalone for years up until now ,it was killing my creativity because you had to do a bunch of workarounds just to do things that are easy in other sequencers...smh they fell off hard as far as I'm concerned ,they are busy trying very hard to be "different" but at the same time not realizing that they are behind the pack now ,what are they making production software for?? their brand name or musicians? they need to start listening to some of these requests that people have that are reasonable(no pun) instead of doing their own thing.

well maybe for your workflow it wasn't working for you but i never had any problems with reason nor record it worked for my workflow. but thats just me everybody is different. i feel they relased feature that may have been available in other daws but how many vsts did you buy just to achieve what can be done in reason. the problem that i feel with a alot of people is that they try to make reason into a daw. time and time again reason is not a daw. pro tools cubase and logic are daws. reason is instrument device rack with a sequencer and effects. record was made due to the high demand of audio in request. and also hope you guys realize props development team is about 40 employees thats it. propellerhead is very small company that make stable products.

 

[dabeatdoctor1989]

well maybe for your workflow it wasn't working for you but i never had any problems with reason nor record it worked for my workflow. but thats just me everybody is different.

I mean It works for me better than most software but there are small annoyances that ruins things for me ,like no time stretch ,no sample chopping unless you get recycle and the fact you could not reverse a sample in redrum ,not only that but they need more effects instead of making the user create effects in a combinator plus I want midi out,I love Reason like alot of people but at the same time I gotta be honest ,they need to step it up ,I just hope that new drum machine can time stretch ,chop ,reverse a sample.......everything all in one instead of loading a different device because thats one of the main things that bugged me about reason.

 

[DiaboliC]

That's all been added
And if u wanna reverse a sample in reason nnxt was the device to do it
And time stretch is whatever never used it
Reason is behind very true but there coming around and its amazing
Reason is only growing its slow but its growing
FL is on 9 logic on 9 sonar coming to 9 live almost 9
That's cool and all but look at reason is amazing tool that is doing what's ready
Out there but doing it Right !!!

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and what was wrong with nnxt chopping ?
It works just like the mpc 3000 and ASR 10
It reverses samples too
Some kids are spoiled with software guess u gotta be a
Older hardware cat to appreciate what we have with programs
It would cost thousands to do what reason can now
In hardware

 

[DaNOC]

IT'S OFFICAL THIS THREAD HAS WENT DIAMOND! DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!


There's a lot of love for Prop! lol

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Mr Gibbs, can Reason sampler now, not just sample but can it chop, reverse, time stretch a sample with ease?

 

[_SG_]

Mr Gibbs, can Reason sampler now, not just sample but can it chop, reverse, time stretch a sample with ease?

It doesn't seem like it can timestretch, at least I get that impression from the video, and I dont think it can chop, that's what they sell you recycle for, unfortunately.

 

[chelemasty]

It doesn't seem like it can timestretch, at least I get that impression from the video, and I dont think it can chop, that's what they sell you recycle for, unfortunately.

Ok, I'll let it out now so that people will stop asking.

Timestretch now is just as easy as, CTRL+DRAGGING the Audio. You can even do it with MIDI. That's it, simple as that.

 

[_SG_]

Ok, I'll let it out now so that people will stop asking.

Timestretch now is just as easy as, CTRL+DRAGGING the Audio. You can even do it with MIDI. That's it, simple as that.

That's good then, they should of shown that off in the video. What do you mean can do it with midi? Do you mean an audio sample triggered by a midi note will still be timestretched?

 

[chelemasty]

That's good then, they should of shown that off in the video. What do you mean can do it with midi? Do you mean an audio sample triggered by a midi note will still be timestretched?

No, just pure MIDI notes. Not the sample it triggers. That's too much...LOL But that's not important, timestretching audio easy as that, is already enough for me. Then bounce it to disk, it will then show up on the Tool Window, then load it on NN-XT. Then, HAVE FUN...LOL

 

[Xabiton]

Smh @ this logic ,Rewire Clients for the most part = Reason users , I swear prop fans are delusional when it comes to releases ,they release a few features that have been available forever and people are praising them for it instead of placing the need for them to get with the times ,I was using Reason Standalone for years up until now ,it was killing my creativity because you had to do a bunch of workarounds just to do things that are easy in other sequencers...smh they fell off hard as far as I'm concerned ,they are busy trying very hard to be "different" but at the same time not realizing that they are behind the pack now ,what are they making production software for?? their brand name or musicians? they need to start listening to some of these requests that people have that are reasonable(no pun) instead of doing their own thing.

most of these features are things that have been requested on their forums numerous times. People have been requesting audio in Reason since I started using it 7 years ago. People on the forum have been asking for autotune since Record came out. Ive always wanted a module like Kong personally. Ive always wanted Reason to have a pattern sequencer. All of these things have been requested at the propellerheads forums some of them for years. If you think they can do better go there and ask them to add your feature or stop complaining about them not having what you need. Honestly this update is more about workflow inside of Reason standalone. If you rewire Reason most of these things would be useless for you and chances are your program you are using now does it anyway. So why complain? What do u really want new from reason?

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whats so great about time stretch. To be honest I never took the time to use it or learn it even when I had the capability to do so.

 

[chelemasty]

whats so great about time stretch. To be honest I never took the time to use it or learn it even when I had the capability to do so.

It is great for stretching the sample while retaining it's original pitch. Great for samplers, intros, outros, buildups, or just plain stretching the sample to slow it down. And the great thing about it, in Record, is that it timestretch it perfectly unlike in Ableton and Cubase where you'll hear artifacts if it's timestretched heavily.

 

[DaNOC]

whats so great about time stretch. To be honest I never took the time to use it or learn it even when I had the capability to do so.

Time stretch is a needed tool to match BPM music that don't match, with time stretch you can mess them together as one.

example lets say I have this hot drum pattern that I made and it's 96 bpm. Then I catch this hot loop of a bass which is 78 bpm, if you try and play these together they will not match and probably sound like someone is banging on pans without rhythm.

Time stretch will allow you to take the main source which would be my drums at 96bpm, and take that bass loop at 78 bpm and stretch that over the drum loop so it will fit right in with the drum loop and sound as one and on time with that drum loop. Now I know wouldn't you like something like that? I hope the NNXT or that Kong thingy does that, that would be dope. Record does time stretch in the sense it can make the whole track slow down without artifacts or speed up without changing the pitch. If you have a track in Record and say you need some bongos and the Record track is 94, but the bongos are 88, you can import those bongos into Record and they will play with the source/original tempo 94 that Record has, and that's dope. But I know what dudes are looking for that time stretch in NNXT editing when bringing a sample. I hope you understood what I was saying.

Peace

 

[Xabiton]

also to ease some minds you can chop inside of Reason 5 but the method is old school. Any former asr10/EPS users will know what I mean. basically u have to duplicate the samples then u load each sample to whatever module you want to use. I have also posted an example. Once u duplicate the sample u set the start and end points in the sample edit screen for each sample. its really easy to use I figured out most of this update in a matter of minutes

 

[Xabiton]

Time stretch is a needed tool to match BPM music that don't match, with time stretch you can mess them together as one.

example lets say I have this hot drum pattern that I made and it's 96 bpm. Then I catch this hot loop of a bass which is 78 bpm, if you try and play these together they will not match and probably sound like someone is banging on pans without rhythm.

Time stretch will allow you to take the main source which would be my drums at 96bpm, and take that bass loop at 78 bpm and stretch that over the drum loop so it will fit right in with the drum loop and sound as one and on time with that drum loop. Now I know wouldn't you like something like that? I hope the NNXT or that Kong thingy does that, that would be dope. Record does time stretch in the sense it can make the whole track slow down without artifacts or speed up without changing the pitch. So it's like to different time stretches. I hope you understood what I was saying.

Peace

idk if i had that same loop id chop it on the down beats and make it fit. Thats just me.

 

[DaNOC]

It is great for stretching the sample while retaining it's original pitch. Great for samplers, intros, outros, buildups, or just plain stretching the sample to slow it down. And the great thing about it, in Record, is that it timestretch it perfectly unlike in Ableton and Cubase where you'll hear artifacts if it's timestretched heavily.

Props Record has the BEST time stretch on this planet right now. Easy to use, and no hassle just turn down the tempo and watch it work! No fiddling around with wrap and taking minutes to get it right, it does it on the fly! Ive dealt with the Akai 2800 and those days and I say this, Record has the BEST time stretch! If a client say "can you turn it down from 98 to about 88, you can do it on the fly right there just by tapping the down button on the tempo, and go right back up with ease. That was one of the biggest features I saw and what made me get Record without even thinking about it. when I did it myself I almost peed in my pants! Three reasons why I got record
1. To record vocals, instruments, my hardware
2. SSL 64 bit buss mixer
3. Time stretch.

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idk if i had that same loop id chop it on the down beats and make it fit. Thats just me.

X oh I definitely hear you, on that, I use to do that when I use to sample, because at that time I couldn't afford an Akai 2800, so we had to chop and make it fit, we were like our own Recycle lol

But those days are gone where you just can get the drums set the tempo get the other loop and stretch it over the drums and bammmmmm it's done quick fast in a hurry. You know as well as I do, chopping to make it fit took time.

 

[chelemasty]

also to ease some minds you can chop inside of Reason 5 but the method is old school. Any former asr10/EPS users will know what I mean. basically u have to duplicate the samples then u load each sample to whatever module you want to use. I have also posted an example. Once u duplicate the sample u set the start and end points in the sample edit screen for each sample. its really easy to use I figured out most of this update in a matter of minutes

Well, you can do that. But in Kong and NN-XT, you can now just load a single Long Sample, copy it, edit the first sample and set some slices using the Editor. After that in NN-XT, you create a new zone(in Kong just paste it directly on the pads), and just paste the sample that you've copied and it will create a new copy of sample which will not be referenced to the original sample. So basically, no need to duplicate on the Tool Window and load it using the Browser, you'll just have to continue slicing and pasting on NN-XT or in Kong.

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Props Record has the BEST time stretch on this planet right now. Easy to use, and no hassle just turn down the tempo and watch it work! No fiddling around with wrap and taking minutes to get it right, it does it on the fly! Ive dealt with the Akai 2800 and those days and I say this, Record has the BEST time stretch! If a client say "can you turn it down from 98 to about 88, you can do it on the fly right there just by tapping the down button on the tempo, and go right back up with ease. That was one of the biggest features I saw and what made me get Record without even thinking about it. when I did it myself I almost peed in my pants! Three reasons why I got record
1. To record vocals, instruments, my hardware
2. SSL 64 bit buss mixer
3. Time stretch.

But now, it's better!!!!! Coz you can manually stretch with your mouse.LOL

 

[Xabiton]

Props Record has the BEST time stretch on this planet right now. Easy to use, and no hassle just turn down the tempo and watch it work! No fiddling around with wrap and taking minutes to get it right, it does it on the fly! Ive dealt with the Akai 2800 and those days and I say this, Record has the BEST time stretch! If a client say "can you turn it down from 98 to about 88, you can do it on the fly right there just by tapping the down button on the tempo, and go right back up with ease. That was one of the biggest features I saw and what made me get Record without even thinking about it. when I did it myself I almost peed in my pants! Three reasons why I got record
1. To record vocals, instruments, my hardware
2. SSL 64 bit buss mixer
3. Time stretch.

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X oh I definitely hear you, on that, I use to do that when I use to sample, because at that time I couldn't afford an Akai 2800, so we had to chop and make it fit, we were like our own Recycle lol

But those days are gone where you just can get the drums set the tempo get the other loop and stretch it over the drums and bammmmmm it's done quick fast in a hurry. You know as well as I do, chopping to make it fit took time.

i have an s3000 i know what u mean. I just like to chop samples. i wasn't doing it really to make the loop work I like to totally rearrange loops and play the loop like a keyboard patch

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Well, you can do that. But in Kong and NN-XT, you can now just load a single Long Sample, copy it, edit the first sample and set some slices using the Editor. After that in NN-XT, you create a new zone(in Kong just paste it directly on the pads), and just paste the sample that you've copied and it will create a new copy of sample which will not be referenced to the original sample. So basically, no need to duplicate on the Tool Window and load it using the Browser, you'll just have to continue slicing and pasting on NN-XT or in Kong.

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But now, it's better!!!!! Coz you can manually stretch with your mouse.LOL

u can set slice points in the editor? are you serious?

 

[DaNOC]

But now, it's better!!!!! Coz you can manually stretch with your mouse.LOL

See by telling me that you are getting me excited again man lol hahahah THAT'S WHAT'S UP! That is hot. Man it sounds yummmmmmmmmmmy!

 

[chelemasty]

u can set slice points in the editor? are you serious?

No, but there's a start and end marker that is movable. So by creating lots of copies of a sample, and setting their markers is just as good as distributing slices of samples on the keyboard or pads.