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wraith302
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i just jizzed in my pants
propellerheads are soon gonna announce something new/ The Reason 5 thread
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i just jizzed in my pants
kb420
Old School Old Head
In Live, whatever track is selected is the one being controlled. Therefore, if a Reason device is on track one, and I have track one selected, my midi controller will control the Reason device.
Another way I integrate Reason, Live, and vst's is by using Live's instrument racks. With that I can layer sounds like crazy. I can take one of Live's Operator patches, and add in Cakewalk Rapture, and then find a Reason Combinator patch and Live will treat them all like one instument. I will have volume control over each and put seperate effects on each part of the layer, and the effects can either be Live's effects or vst's.
Another way I integrate Reason, Live, and vst's is by using Live's instrument racks. With that I can layer sounds like crazy. I can take one of Live's Operator patches, and add in Cakewalk Rapture, and then find a Reason Combinator patch and Live will treat them all like one instument. I will have volume control over each and put seperate effects on each part of the layer, and the effects can either be Live's effects or vst's.
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neverenoughfunk
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the actual samples are nice but what that kontakt 4 sampler can do is the key (scripting and keys switching)...
now, imagine having a sampler like that in reason...
then the game would be over...
until then Record/Reason is just another "nice" tool in your arsenal...
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DaNOC
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Nah man if I sell the MPC guess who is going to buy it? YOU :rofl: and you're going to give me $600 hunnit for it my dude or else! lol :rofl:
From all the excitement I feel burnt out, I am going to lay down and watch Gold Member lol Props is literally filling my veins with digital drugs lol
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mars
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I will just wait and see what propellerheads reveals tomorrow
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beats are us
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[F_or_DEAF]
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ok...i'll try it...but that sounds too easy!!!
Darko
Reanimator
Yeah, I'ma wait til friday, and I signed up for beta testing yesterday, but there comes a point when it's "what else do you really need?".
Only thing I really want in Reason is for some kurzweil K2K - like modulation options and I doubt they did that.
Seems there's a lot of people who want to use one program that has it all. That's fine for them, I'm happy to get a change of pace/scenery once in a while.
Perhaps he's developed a new sound bank or set of presets. The betas usually don't include the whole sound set.
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[F_or_DEAF]
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i'd like to see this proven...
not saying that it can't be done...i'd just like to see it be done...
Darko
Reanimator
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/articles/livetech_0107.htm
not as exciting as a video, but it's proof
kb420
Old School Old Head
I do it all the time. It's Live.
It's an instrument rack. If you want to try it yourself, just download the demo of Live. Drag an empty instrument Rack into a midi track. Once you do that, You can make instrument chains. In the example I just gave, I opened Operator on chain 1. Then I opened an instance of Rapture on chain 2. On chain 3 I opened the External Instrument feature. Then you open Reason and route the midi in Live to the Combinator in Reason and set the outputs.
Thats it. It's not hard at all.
[F_or_DEAF]
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hmmm...that article was published 3 years ago and ain't no one dropped a video yet of it being done???
hmmm...
...still gotta see it to believe it.
i mean really, ya'll makin' it sound like you can basically have a combinator (Reason Combinator) INSIDE of a combinator (Ableton Rack)...all in ONE track.
kb420
Old School Old Head
Yes you can. I do it all the time. I'm not set up to do video, but instrument Racks has been around since version 6. I forget which version they introduced the External Instruments plug in, but it's there now.
One more thing, instruments in a Live Instrument Rack are called chains. Each chain can be a Live Device, a vst, or a Reason instrument or combinator. There is no limit on the amount of chains you have in a Instrument Rack. As a matter of fact, you can actually drag and Instrument Rack into an Instrument Rack.
Yes I said it. In Live, you can have Racks within Racks.
Each chain in an Instrument Rack can have it's own effects, and you can also set it up where the entire chain list has what I like to call group effects set up just like busses.
And yes, not only can you have seperate effects, you can also have Effects Racks. Basically, anywhere you can add an effect, you can add an Effects Rack.
And Effects Racks can contain Live's own effects, and vst effects.
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mrgibbs
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i prefer reason combinator but that's just me i can't get with live like that.
kb420
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One more thing, you can also have Effects Racks within Effects Racks too.
DiaboliC
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I like lives flexibility but the seq wasn't for me I was using vr 4 then wonder what 8 is like
kb420
Old School Old Head
They did improve the seq in Live 8. I'm so use to using it now that I really just can't understand how can people can have difficulties with it.
Live's routing is every bit as flexible as Reason's. The only real difference is that Live doesn't have anything like CV routing.
Live's routing is every bit as flexible as Reason's. The only real difference is that Live doesn't have anything like CV routing.
[F_or_DEAF]
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i like Reason's Combinator too...BUT, if Live can STACK one OR more Combinator's AND MULTILE VSTi's in the SAME TRACK, that's INSANE...as far as...just think of the sound design potential...that's GOTTA be UNRIVALED...
if it works like these guys are saying it does, then Live is leaving other DAW's in the DUST when it comes to a sound-design workflow.
everyone wants Reason's instruments and VSTi's TOGETHER...
Live is giving us BOTH...IN ONE TRACK!
STILL, i gotta see it to believe it...
shit sounds too damn good to be true.
mrgibbs
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if live doestn have cv control then i have no use for it. that's the hidden secret to reason.
kb420
Old School Old Head
Trust me, I'm not lying. I wouldn't lie about something like that. Believe me. A few years ago, I was reading something about Live, and someone said that they look at Live like an instrument.
And I understand where they are coming from. In a hardware keyboard, most of your presets are actually layers. With Instrument Racks, you can make your own layers out of anything, whether it's a Live device, Reason device or Combinator, or vst's.
I'm only really scratching the surface of the capability. You can set up the keyrange and velocity of each chain. Let me put it to you like this:
If you have an Instrument Rack with a vst, a Live device, and a Reason Combinator, you could set the key ranges so that only the lower half of your keyboard plays the vst. The middle plays the Live device, and the top plays the Reason Combinator.
You could also set it up where if you hit the keys hard, only the vst will play. If you hit moderately, only the Live device will play, and if you hit gently only the Reason Combinator will play.
You can set it up however you want it.
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Well, global lfo's have been a requested feature for a long time now. Actually, you can do that and much more with Max4Live, but I'm not hype like that.
But, I'm still a Reason user, so I still have access to everything that Reason can do and I can combine that with Live and any vst's that I want.
And I understand where they are coming from. In a hardware keyboard, most of your presets are actually layers. With Instrument Racks, you can make your own layers out of anything, whether it's a Live device, Reason device or Combinator, or vst's.
I'm only really scratching the surface of the capability. You can set up the keyrange and velocity of each chain. Let me put it to you like this:
If you have an Instrument Rack with a vst, a Live device, and a Reason Combinator, you could set the key ranges so that only the lower half of your keyboard plays the vst. The middle plays the Live device, and the top plays the Reason Combinator.
You could also set it up where if you hit the keys hard, only the vst will play. If you hit moderately, only the Live device will play, and if you hit gently only the Reason Combinator will play.
You can set it up however you want it.
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Well, global lfo's have been a requested feature for a long time now. Actually, you can do that and much more with Max4Live, but I'm not hype like that.
But, I'm still a Reason user, so I still have access to everything that Reason can do and I can combine that with Live and any vst's that I want.
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