WTF! Texas Board Of Education Declare Hip Hop Is Not A Cultural Movement

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Deranged, the reason I say your way of thinking is selfish is because...IT IS. When you only care about your immediate and not the society as a whole, you're being selfish.

Ironically, disregarding what happens in society can come back to bite you in the ass, so it defies the logic of only worrying about yourself.

Absolute nonsense promoted by further nonsense. That's like saying carbon monoxide is dangerous, so rather than seeing it as me taking precautions by putting a detector in my house to provide my family safety, you see it as me being selfish by not worrying about if every home on the planet has a detector when i can't do sh*t about it if theyu don't.

Real questions(not being smart, just wanna know so I can properly route this conversation), do you have kids? A family to support? People who hourly rely on you to solve every problem they have in life from not being able to turn on their "Princess Frog" DVD to waking up in the middle of the night with a cough and fever when they haven't had vaccinations because of risks you factually know exsist?

I'm aware of the world we live in. "Better" is an opinionated word, but americals got more than enough sugar lying around to make the lemons into lemonade. It's hot outside, I spent to many years worrying about everything around me, I'm on "family vacation sipping lemonade' right now.

If the world ends while I'm vacationaing, it was fun. If it don't, I can get back to work worrying about everything that effects everyone else after taking care of home.

My kids will be taught whether it was in their curriculum or not. I'll worry about others when mine are took care of. If everyone else dedicated their lives to the same, alot less kids would be running around without guidance.

But I'm selfish? WTF are these people who allow their kids to run around with no guidance? Parents dead? In jail? Nuthouse? Overseas in Military? At work? They were too selfish to appoint godparents or guardians who would be responsible. They were selfish enough to prematurely create a family when they weren't ready for the responsibility.

That's how you get people to rely on a classroom setting to teach their kids. I skipped school majority of the year my entire life(you can tell by my grammar I'm sure). Still smarter than most who went every day, still kept a 2.8(on my bad years)avg. rarely turning in homework(most of the guys I ran with made straight Fs, can't read or write most words over 5 letters long, and went to school more than me). I can honestly say school hasn't taught me anything. Appreciate my parents for keeping my nose in books and showing me how to survive in this world. You should've been aware of that from my prior post where I named multiple things left out of the 2 page chapter on black history in my school book.

I'm not the problem, I'm the solution. A parent who actually parents, and don't worry, my childrens friends effect my children, so kids who play with them and lack guidance have a "parental figure"(me) in their life now as well if they didn't before. One household at a time, bruh. BTW what are you actually doing for us all? Oh, informing us? Right. :cheers:
 
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I won't bring kids into this world until I have my shyt together. Besides that, I've helped raise other ppls kids. My house was constantly filled with 5 kids, ages 1-5, for years. I know what it's like to take care of children. Because I've seen such a variety over such a long period of time, I've picked up patterns and some things have become like a science to me.

For example, from my sample size of kids ages 1-5 over 12 years of time, I've realized that most parents have no clue how to raise children and simply wing it.

Then you have people, like these politically motivated individuals on the Texas board, screwing up the education system.

Ok, so parents who have no clue + bad education = ???

See, Deranged, you taking care of your kids is all well and good. Nobody is saying that's a bad thing. That's what you should do and they should be your #1 priority...but what about everyone else? Fvck em? Who gives a shyt, right?

And about what I'm doing about it....a helluva lot more than you, considering I'm Canadian and this affects me less than it does you, yet I seem to care more. Maybe your life experiences haven't brought you up to think this way, but I've been the beneficiary of so much good will and selflessness that I find it inexcusable to stand idle while everything around you goes to shyt.

I'm sure you're familiar with this poem, but it fits:

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."


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I'm not the problem, I'm the solution. A parent who actually parents, and don't worry, my childrens friends effect my children, so kids who play with them and lack guidance have a "parental figure"(me) in their life now as well if they didn't before. One household at a time, bruh. BTW what are you actually doing for us all? Oh, informing us? Right. :cheers:
I just re-read your post and I agree with this. All I'm saying is take it one step further and allow others to do the same as you. If you don't, the wisdom you've gained over the years dies with you when you're gone.
 
Voss, GST, F_or_Deaf... the ones out there like yall, yall get it. Yall GET IT.

Asking something like "What are you doing to change things?" is anti-progressive. It would be much better to say something like "lets do something to change things".

In the meantime, drugs & violence, AIDS & herpes, jails & court fines, whips & chains.

Singles & videos.

Zeitgeist take 3!
 
I won't bring kids into this world until I have my shyt together. Besides that, I've helped raise other ppls kids. My house was constantly filled with 5 kids, ages 1-5, for years. I know what it's like to take care of children. Because I've seen such a variety over such a long period of time, I've picked up patterns and some things have become like a science to me.

For example, from my sample size of kids ages 1-5 over 12 years of time, I've realized that most parents have no clue how to raise children and simply wing it.

Then you have people, like these politically motivated individuals on the Texas board, screwing up the education system.

Ok, so parents who have no clue + bad education = ???

See, Deranged, you taking care of your kids is all well and good. Nobody is saying that's a bad thing. That's what you should do and they should be your #1 priority...but what about everyone else? Fvck em? Who gives a shyt, right?

And about what I'm doing about it....a helluva lot more than you, considering I'm Canadian and this affects me less than it does you, yet I seem to care more. Maybe your life experiences haven't brought you up to think this way, but I've been the beneficiary of so much good will and selflessness that I find it inexcusable to stand idle while everything around you goes to shyt.

I'm sure you're familiar with this poem, but it fits:



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I just re-read your post and I agree with this. All I'm saying is take it one step further and allow others to do the same as you. If you don't, the wisdom you've gained over the years dies with you when you're gone.

1. You don't know what I "have done" in the past or "what I currently do" to say "you're doing more than me'. All you know is I put my family ahead of everything else. That don't mean I'm not still dedicating time and support to my community(actually the community I'm from, and one's I relate to, not even the privaleged suburban one I currently live in as much). Nice attempt at an "assumption" of who I am and what I do.

2. You never said 1 thing you "did". Just stated you did more than me.

3. I've raised cousins, nephews, kids of young friends and women I dated in my teens. I've been "raising kids since I can remember. When I was bnarely out of diapers myself, lol. None of that equates to raising your own child which you know sh*t about until you're doing it yourself. Similar to you knowing sh*t about my nation, but thinking you smart enough to make assumptions, I can do that as well, Canada has too many Bears, Mountains, Fish and people who pronounce "about" wrong. You also leave your doors unlocked and have no weapons. You're all white, rich, and speak french. Did I hit that on the nail?

Of course not, I been to Canada. My passport's good in case sh*t pops off. Instead you worried about us, like your gov't ain't overshadowed by the same things you soapbox preach of ours. One is convincing you canadians everyone else has problems you can fix, y'all ain't no better or more blessed than anyone else. We all in the same toilet when it flushes we all go down the same f**king drain.

Get a life. I'm sure that's hard to do when all you see out your window is mountains, trees, and rivers(I joke, what part of canada you in?). Lol, is hip hop in your country's school books? If so, what's discussed? Eternia and Kardinal? In the newer issued ones Drake?

I got a poem for you I just wrote.

My neighbors house caught fire, I fought valiantly and put it out, but the fire had spread to another neigbors house.
I fought valiantly and put that one out as well. But it had spread to the neighborhood store, I ran in, saved a buncha lives, then fought valiantly to put out that fire.
Went home tired to find out my house was the source of the fire...my unattended kids were playing with matches, the house was burned to the ground and the kids were dead...but I took care of everyone else, so I'm somehow a winner. :cheers:
 
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What are you accomplishing right now Deranged? How does this argument benefit you in any way? All you're doing is acting like a crab in a bucket.

And I never said don't take care of your own. That's a straw man argument and you know it.

Yes, of course, take care of your own, but ignoring society and slimy politicians is how the middle class is getting destroyed and the divide between the rich and poor is slowly growing. It's how the military industrial complex has a stranglehold on the politics and economy. It's how healthcare has never been a human right in your country.

These types of things aren't as big a deal in Canada because we care about more than just ourselves. Ask our CONSERVATIVE politicians if they think public healthcare is a good idea. We have a conservative government right now, yet we still have public healthcare and contrary to what Fox News would have you believe, it works pretty damn well. Our banks didn't go under in the recession and we didn't have a housing crash. Our education system, with it's flaws, is miles (kilometers...metric system lol) above the sorry excuse in Texas. We don't shoot eachother as recklessly as you do. We're more peaceful in general. We promote multiculturalism instead of a melting pot. And the list goes on...

And btw, if you're going to mock me for talking about the US as if I'm ignorant, it doesn't help your cause to list off some stereotypes. Has anything I said been a stereotype or has it been based on facts and analysis?

But fvck all that...wipe the slate clean.

You know the biggest problem in politics? It's corruption. Corruption of lawmakers by lobbies due to campaign finance laws. We had a scandal with our Liberal government a few years back and once the details came to light, we got them the fvck outta office and worked to clean up the corruption (as much as possible, it's still a very real problem, but not to the extent that it was).

That's the power of people caring about more than just themselves.

Now look at the US. You have horrible corruption and believe it or not, you don't even live in a democracy, but rather a CORPORATOCRACY. What you call "special interest groups" pay lobbyists and fund campaigns in exchange for those particular politicians to play ball. If they don't, the next election, they simply don't fund your campaign and fund your opponent so you're out of office.

ALL the Republicans, minus Ron Paul, are corrupt in this way and most of the Democrats are as well. People like Alan Grayson are a few honest Democrats. Even Obama is corrupt. Why do you think the healthcare issue has been such a clusterfvck?

On January 21st 2010, your Supreme Court deregulated campaign finance laws and is going to make corruption even worse in the US. Your politicians will be bought even MORE than before. In a few decades, it will cease to be a democracy entirely and will only be a government COMPLETELY controlled by corporations, foreign or domestic.

How you could let something like that that go is beyond me. Shyt like that wouldn't fly up here.

Lastly, Deranged, please understand that it's not a choice between family or society. I'm not saying neglect one for the sake of the other. Family first, of course...but don't neglect society.

It's kind of sad that the loudest dissenters is the Tea Party group. Their heart is in the right place, but they are just so misinformed that they are fighting the very thing that will help them. As much as I dislike Fox News and the Republicans, they are geniuses in they're own twisted way.

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Voss, GST, F_or_Deaf... the ones out there like yall, yall get it. Yall GET IT.

Asking something like "What are you doing to change things?" is anti-progressive. It would be much better to say something like "lets do something to change things".

In the meantime, drugs & violence, AIDS & herpes, jails & court fines, whips & chains.

Singles & videos.

Zeitgeist take 3!

:cheers:
 
Yaknow whats funny? yall talk about Klansmen and the white man, but look at what your saying, judging all white people by the actions of the few. The white man this, the white man that.. Its no different than a Klansman talking about how all black people are slow or drug dealers or something..

Just sayin, its funny to me. Regardless of colour a lot of people think the same way. It disappoints me. But I'm drunk so...

EDIT: read what deranged said ignore my white ass.


Isn't it strange we get to learn about them in school text books but somehow we don't need to learn about hiphop culture in same said books. Things that make you go Hmmmm.
 
That's a good point, newuser1. At the same time, they remove civil rights leaders from the curriculum. Why?

All these things are a part of history and they should all be taught. But anything that doesn't make the Republicans look good gets the boot.

Have you guys heard of the "Conservative Bible"? These right wingers actually have the audacity to rewrite the Bible and take out or change anything that doesn't reflect Republican values. I mean, I'm an atheist, but even I find that ridiculous.

http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible
 
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Originally Posted by Voss25
- Include country music as an important cultural movement, while dropping hip-hop (racism)



Country music was derived from the blues which had it's origin in the black culture. The blues and hip-hop is essentially the same thing. A description of the conditions in a deprived culture ie the black culture. Let's not beat around the bush. This whole discussion about hip-hop is really a discussion about the black culture. It is this culture which conservatives don't want taught anywhere, let alone in America’s school...So to teach "country music as an important cultural movement" is actually white folk stealing a whole cultural movement from black people and making it their own as they have done with so many other movements and inventions throughout history.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8579352.stm

Congrats! You just got healthcare.

EVERY SINGLE Republican voted against this bill...which begs the question, why didn't the Democrats just pass the original version with the public option?

The answer is in a post I made earlier. They had to meet demands from the healthcare and insurance industries. It is that, not the Republicans, that stood in the way (ZERO Republicans voted for it anyway lol). That's why I said corruption is the biggest problem in politics.

Regardless, this should help a lot of people, so overall it's a good thing.

Side note: this is where Canada was in the 60's.



I don't dislike Ron Paul as much as the rest of the Republicans, but here's his take on this (he lies a few times btw, don't believe everything he says):

 
this should help a lot of people, so overall it's a good thing

what are the drawbacks of the bill? (if any)

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In the meantime, drugs & violence, AIDS & herpes, jails & court fines, whips & chains.

word man...

it's a shame that the people that are most affected by the system have the least to say about it...

see...the problem w/ hip hop is that a lot of cats try to serve two masters: they wanna talk a whole bunch of bullshyt 90% of the time, and kick real shyt only 10%.

in other words...too many artists are out there barely speaking out against the same things that they are promoting...they only speak out against these "traps" every blue moon...hardly ever kicking the truth...directly AND indirectly REINFORCING the pollution of their people...and their peoples communities...

$.02

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You have horrible corruption and believe it or not, you don't even live in a democracy, but rather a CORPORATOCRACY.

quoted for truth...

Even Obama is corrupt.

exactly...

and that's the problem w/ a lot of black people...too many of us think that Obama is the best thing since Air Jordans, Cadillacs, and chicken / beer...but really, truth be told, muthafukcaz is IGNORANT and need to do their homework before they just blindly give someone props just because he is black & "successful"...things aren't always what they seem...

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to teach "country music as an important cultural movement" is actually white folk stealing a whole cultural movement from black people and making it their own as they have done with so many other movements and inventions throughout history.

true...

but WHY do they do that shyt?!?!

and why have they always did it and KEEP doing it??!
 
I got this one.

Because it's not a white black thing. Think Rockefeller... not Roc-a-fella (even though the irony is side-splitting). It doesn't have a damn thing to do with color. And some decades from now, when $hit is REALLY hitting the fan, everyone on the bottom levels of that PYRAMID are really gonna realize that racism never really existed, just THE EVILS OF CAPITALISM... IMPERIALISM... etc.

Black people weren't the only slaves out there.

..............

To keep it moving though, part of it is a systematic brainwashing that's been taking place over THOUSANDS of years.

See, all those videos online may be somewhat extreme in one sense or the other, but the important thing is that THEY ALL INCLUDE SOME TRUTH TO THEM. Between the Illuminati, the New World Order, the Electoral College... the Federal Reserve being privately owned... lol... yeah...

SOME $HIT IS GOING ON.

I personally don't understand why it's so hard to believe that we're all basically slaves and that our own governmentS don't give a rat's ass (at least in the US) about us... or basically that the people IN the government only work for the people that REALLY run $hit behind the scenes.

All you have to do is put two and two together to realize it's pretty obvious.

Now, snap ya fingers to that. I won't front, I'm still bumpin "On To The Next One".
 
I personally don't understand why it's so hard to believe that we're all basically slaves and that our own governmentS don't give a rat's ass (at least in the US) about us... or basically that the people IN the government only work for the people that REALLY run $hit behind the scenes

people DON'T WANT TO believe it...

but the evidence is all over the place...throughout history, it's been there...

most people think they can just pull one of these:

ostrich-head-In-Sand.jpg


...and just approach life w/ the old, "NOT MY PROBLEM" way of looking at the world we live in...THEY THINK THAT ADDRESSING THE ISSUES IS JUST GOING TO MAKE THEIR SITUATIONS WORSE.

OR...they wait around and let SOMEBODY ELSE do the THINKING FOR THEM.

they think that only "EXPERTS" can connect the dots...

and not only that, but MAINSTREAM MEDIA has programmed them to the point that they think everything is ok...and the things that ARE NOT ok, somebody else (.gov) is gonna take care of it and make things ok.

85%/10%/5%...

so there you have it...

GUESS WHO'S GOING TO PROTECT YOU?

GUESS WHO'S GOING TO THINK FOR YOU?

GUESS WHO'S GOING TO CONNECT THE DOTS FOR YOU?
 
These types of things aren't as big a deal in Canada because we care about more than just ourselves.
Stereotypes indeed. Lol. So you're saying different of Americans and don't even realize how stereotypical you're being. There's slums in Canada, bruh, you should visit some and see how selfish your people living in mini mansions are to leave folk stacked on top of each other in buildings living off scraps month to month. Then you can focus on that instead of making up out of thin air what goes on here.


What are you accomplishing right now Deranged? How does this argument benefit you in any way? All you're doing is acting like a crab in a bucket.

I can ask the exact same of you and assume I know you to say the same. All you're doing is acting as a "crab in the bucket" by pulling me back down with assumptions of what I do and preaching against what you think I represent without having a clue of who I am. I've yet to do the same to you, guess canadian schools don't teach you to recognize the synicism I used in my last post to make a point. Guess my "ol' uneduacated American taught smarts" are so beneath you?

You've yet to say what you're "doing". Seems to me you looking from the outside in thru CNN and interweb data and think to throw the dogs a bone before seeing the sign that blatantly tells you not to feed them. You off course, get a compass and a clue, you know nothing of my nation and you know nothing of me or my work.

Do you know where my seasonal penthouse is? Where I go on vacation with my family? Toronto. You know where majority of my music money has come from? Scoring english versions of Anime. Where they do that at? Vancouver/Toronto.

My point is, you don't know me, before you bark, know who the f**k you gettin at, I can tell you bout your backyard from walking thru it, you can't tell me sh*t about mines except what you hear and assume from media coverage that's gonna be scetchy to keep you entertained.

How dare you say Ron Paul isn't corrupt? How dare you make yourself beleive only the Republicans are corrupt? Democrats are put in office so we think we in control when they turn this bich to berut. Check ya history books. I know where the f**k I'm at. I been here 30 years, thru riots, hangings, draggings, personally have experienced police brutality, racial profiling, victimization because of lack of finances. I deserve every penny I've made and every opportunity I had to get away from that. My kids deserve my undivided attention to keep them away from that. F**k others going thru it, they need to get their sh*t together like I did.

You keep giving a f**k about everyone who can't take care of themselves after being given all the same opportunities you were. I take mines off the top and plot to survive by being fittest. It's the American way. Anyone here telling you otherwise ain't surviving or have had a silver spoon in their mouth since birth. Including you.

But I ain't never passed a man and his family living out a car or sitting in front a bridge hurting so bad I gave him a $100 bill while out Canada. I can't count how many times I've given folk rent money out here. And yeah family come 1st. i wouldn't be paying some other bum's lightbill if my power was anywhere close to being cutoff.

When the last time you filled someone's house with groceries cause their kids were starving? When's the last time you even gathered up a group of homeless guys in front a McDonald's beggin and spent $60 getting them all value meals so they could sit inside and be treated like human beings for an hour.

Lol. Niggas and their big talk little action. i'm giving you my everyday activities and you've yet to say "what you're doing" that makes you so much more for a cause in my country you don't even inhabit than I am for my immediate surroundings that I can help that you confuse with selfishness because I don't stretch outside my eyes reach.

I did feel bad for only donating $25 to Haiti knowing only like $7 actually got to them. But that's the best I could do, my kids don't allow me to hop a plane out there to help folk I don't know. Your lack of responsibility does. So why the f**k are you on the net arguing with me about what you don't even know I'm doing or not doing, when you should be running around the world being the "Captain Save A Ho" you trying to convince my married with children who I attend to daily and put ahead of everything else azz to be?

But I'm selfish for placing all my attention towards a few souls I lead daily rather than spreading thin and reaching no one like you're ultimately doing with your rants in this thread. All you gettin is the same cosigns from f**kers who think they know sh*t, and the same "whatevers" from naysayers. Step ya game up.

Keep it real with yourself. I ain't buying ya bullsh*t, and you know that's what it is. Save it for when you go sign up for the peace corps and they ask you why you want to be there. Nah, lol, you won't do that...that'll actually involve doing something physical rather than typing me about what I'm not doing.

And if you up on ya dean, you know better than to waste ya breath on the 85 that's blind, and know the other 10 is against you, so even that's telling you to get your house in order. Getcha sh*t straight before you try to "spread knowlege". Ya teaching tell you to stick your head in that dirt until you talking to another with knowlege of self. Get on ya high horse and STFU. This ain't an FP discussion, it should be held amongst ya cosigning public on their gathering sites. Not forced in our face when we come to talk about music. WE'VE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE.

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I got this one.

Because it's not a white black thing. Think Rockefeller... not Roc-a-fella (even though the irony is side-splitting). It doesn't have a damn thing to do with color. And some decades from now, when $hit is REALLY hitting the fan, everyone on the bottom levels of that PYRAMID are really gonna realize that racism never really existed, just THE EVILS OF CAPITALISM... IMPERIALISM... etc.

Black people weren't the only slaves out there.
Let's keep it real. Let's shoot the 100. You must be beachboy/beatles white and wanna fit in with "the struggle". Nice try. :cheers:
 
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some decades from now, when $hit is REALLY hitting the fan, everyone on the bottom levels of that PYRAMID are really gonna realize that racism never really existed

how many people (especially BLACK PEOPLE) in their right minds would ever agree w/ that statement!?!?

would these guys agree w/ that statement:

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just THE EVILS OF CAPITALISM... IMPERIALISM... etc.

racism, capitalism, imperialism are not mutually exclusive.

you can have one, the other, or all three, AT THE SAME TIME.

the question is, WHAT GROUP OF PEOPLE DO THOSE THREE ELEMENTS BENEFIT? (use the pic for a clue)

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Dang this thread gets better by the post. lol

I can see where both voss and deranged are coming from. You gotta think big picture for anything to really change, but how can you even begin to think big picture if your personal responsibilities are not being attended to?

You help yourself, you help your friends and family, you help your immediate community out of necessity because you're looking after your own interests first. It just so happens that by doing so, your actions have ripples that reach out further than you may realize.

If everyone were a "good parent", there wouldn't be a need to help out society...

Oh and textbooks....them things are already too damn heavy as it is. The less pages the better. Kidding, geez.

I never thought a board of education could edit the books. They purchase them from a publisher. To change the content of the books, they would have to go through the publisher, editor, and writer. Besides, its not like there is only ONE history book that can be used in schools. There's tons of different history textbooks out there that a school district can choose to use. They can't edit all of them even if they do have that authority, which I doubt. Admittedly I know nothing of how textbooks are conceived and implemented, but I don't see how this could fly in the rest of the country just because texas ran out of things to shoot.

Anybody living in the area of Texas that this is taking place should attend the public forums to discuss these "amendments" and voice your opinion. Would do a lot more good than complaining on an internet message board.

Peace!
 
maybe i made a big mistake. racism does exist everywhere. but the problem is bigger than "my race is better than yours"...

damn, is that so hard to see? they've won already!

F, i was agreeing with you before. but damn, open your mind. you REALLY think this is about white people being better than black people? that's some two-year-old ****!

no, it's about a group of people who FOOLED THE WORLD into thinking that there was a difference between races. a group of people that FOOLED THE WORLD into thinking that blacks and whites are DIFFERENT, indians and chinese, jews, hispanics, etc......

like, just stop all the RACIALLY FUELED bull$hit and just think about it.

intermission: deranged, i'm black. from a hood in NY. haitian blood. single mother. take that with your watermelon.

back from commercial break:

all i'm sayin is think about things. in the end, there won't be any separation between the POOR WHITE PEOPLE of today and the POOR BLACK PEOPLE of today.

UNITY IS THE ANSWER. and because of arguments like the ones going on in this thread, well, we're all damned. so good luck when they start tossin out martial law.

P.S. has it ever occurred to any of you that they actually also TEACH certain things and REPRESS other things to STRENGTHEN the gaps between races? which also leads to the resulting situations where the SEEDS of RACISM that were PLANTED ON PURPOSE are STILL GROWING TODAY?

yeah, bet none of yall talk much $hit at all about the Africans that sold their families and friends to those EUROPEAN foreigners........ don't act like the $hit didn't happen.

and i've already been called white cuz of sayin something knowledgeable. kinda pissed now. racism is bull$hit, it's a f$ckin FRONT and NOBODY sees it. that's some of the $hit that pisses me off.

we can rap about white girls but when it comes to this... wow f$ck it, why do i even defend my own culture. most of us ended up tap-dancing anyway... whips and chains... hmmm...
 
F, i was agreeing with you before. but damn, open your mind. you REALLY think this is about white people being better than black people? that's some two-year-old ****!

no, it's about a group of people who FOOLED THE WORLD into thinking that there was a difference between races

EXACTLY.

see, the thing about my posts is that when i address "racial" issues, i try to go back to the source on this shyt...

like, what RACE were those people THEN that "fooled the world" in the first place?...and (on topic) w/ this Texas bullshyt, WHY THE FUKC are they STILL trying to "fool the world"?!?!

what good is knowing your history if you don't even know the facts about who did what, and why?

and really, the best way to get past race issues, (or any other problem for that matter) is to address it head on...focusing on the who, what, where, when, and why's ALONG WITH statistics AND proposed solutions...

this shyt CAN change, eventually...SOMEHOW; but just keep in mind that keeping it the same, will keep the same people in power...which is exactly what they want...but as time goes on, they want more and more, until they got it all...and if you don't think that the thought about having it all ain't even crossed their minds, then you are fooling nobody but yourself.
 
my dude, it's so far beyond us i fear for the future. not sure there's much we can really do to change anything at this point.

the dudes who started this infested cycle of ignorance are dead, deceased and decayed by now, and rolling in their graves laughing at us. it all worked to a T, and the small percentages of us that actually wanted to fight the power throughout the years got snuffed out repeatedly by the vast majorities of sheep and ostriches with their heads in the ground.

oh yes, i know they want it all, and it can't happen overnight, but the thousand-year plan is damn sure working more than it isn't. look how far dumbed down our society got.... i could stop right there.

it's like some Da Vinci Code $hit... way back at the beginning, there was a reason for empires to come together and be like, "one day, our descendants will walk on the backs of others" and then they implicated plans to take over straight up.

Imperialism 101? maybe... it involves religion, however real or fake religion is, it involves whole civilizations, and it only came down to the Americas in the last like 600 years. that slave trade was going on way longer than the American Civil War.

i was saying that racism wasn't an absolute source for slavery, or better yet, to rephrase, it wasn't a real challenge for them old Europeans or whatever you wanna call it to look at whole ethnicities of people, whole nations, and be like "ooh look, mules :D"

bull$hit to me, but that racism basically went farther than "my race is better than yours"..... it was like "you're my property and i can do what i want with you, you have no say"

and they still think that way of alot of us, they're just ACCOMMODATING for the general public, that BELIEVES that racism is "a thing of the past"......... it's bigger than racism, it's outright bigotry. hell it's bigger than that.

and most of us on this level aren't doing much of anything to prove them wrong.

our ancestors might as well have handed the world over way back when. they pretty much did.

cuz back when our ancestors were playin konga drums out in the forest and playin with animals, back when dudes were messin with like 4 wives, back when the ABORIGINAL PEOPLES were having rain dances and shaman stuff was going on, back when the chinese were foot binding their women and gettin down with rice.......

...... the "white man's" ancestors were playing real-life RISK. anyone ever heard of that board game?
 
intermission: deranged, i'm black. from a hood in NY. haitian blood. single mother. take that with your watermelon...

Lol, stand corrected. Still fuels my earlier point that no one knows what anyone up here is "doing" to tell them what the need to be "doing". :cheers:

Sidenote. That was me being crass, I hope no one takes me as being extremely serious in this thread. I'm seeing picks of dudes hanging and realizing how serious some of you take the world.

It's just life. You only get one. Live the whole thing stressing and you still die without changing much(most likely will die younger and definetly less happy).

Fight for your causes, brothers. I'd be less offended being mistaken for white, all they seem to ever do in these discussions is mistake me for an Uncle Tom or Sambo. :cheers:
 
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Deranged, the reason I say your way of thinking is selfish is because...IT IS. When you only care about your immediate and not the society as a whole, you're being selfish.

Ironically, disregarding what happens in society can come back to bite you in the ass, so it defies the logic of only worrying about yourself.

Big Rome, you're blowing things outta proportion. I highly doubt they're gonna sit the kids down and tell them their homework is to watch "Shake Ya Ass" by Mystikal and write a paper on it.

They had mentioned in their textbooks that hip-hop was a cultural movement. Now, they are going to remove references to hip-hop and instead include references to country music. Why do something like that? Why not include both? Judging by the rest of their amendments and the character of the people on the board, this particular vote was racially motivated.


exactly..it always does..some actually get by just playing the cut but it never hurts to take interest or get invovled

I got this one.

Because it's not a white black thing. Think Rockefeller... not Roc-a-fella (even though the irony is side-splitting). It doesn't have a damn thing to do with color. And some decades from now, when $hit is REALLY hitting the fan, everyone on the bottom levels of that PYRAMID are really gonna realize that racism never really existed, just THE EVILS OF CAPITALISM... IMPERIALISM... etc.

Black people weren't the only slaves out there.

..............

To keep it moving though, part of it is a systematic brainwashing that's been taking place over THOUSANDS of years.

See, all those videos online may be somewhat extreme in one sense or the other, but the important thing is that THEY ALL INCLUDE SOME TRUTH TO THEM. Between the Illuminati, the New World Order, the Electoral College... the Federal Reserve being privately owned... lol... yeah...

SOME $HIT IS GOING ON.

I personally don't understand why it's so hard to believe that we're all basically slaves and that our own governmentS don't give a rat's ass (at least in the US) about us... or basically that the people IN the government only work for the people that REALLY run $hit behind the scenes.

All you have to do is put two and two together to realize it's pretty obvious.

Now, snap ya fingers to that. I won't front, I'm still bumpin "On To The Next One".

I hear you bruh but if I remember correctly,it wasn't Jews or Asians in those cotton fields and it damn sure wasn't cowboys with guitars either..blacks slaves literally built the economic structure of this country,then after slaves were freed,we were no longer beneficial to the economy so instead of sending us back there were numerous ways to try and exterminate us physically from America..that didn't work and until this day the target is no longer us physically but mentally and psychologically...break the soul and you've broken the man..it's almost like they're tryna launder blood money.when it comes to black/white specifically,it's race,my brother..countless events of what could be considered 'tampering with evidence' or some shyt like that if mofos wanted to bring America up on charges like we do other countries..


how come the taboo is black man/white woman but not white man/black women ? how come white man can have any women and it's not a taboo? I don't give a fuk,I'm just asking..shyt is race,man

to speak on the topic specifically,I go back to the cowboys and guitars..like,what part of history do they play ? how have black folks benefited from Willie Nelson ? thas my dude but really ?

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EXACTLY.

see, the thing about my posts is that when i address "racial" issues, i try to go back to the source on this shyt...

like, what RACE were those people THEN that "fooled the world" in the first place?...and (on topic) w/ this Texas bullshyt, WHY THE FUKC are they STILL trying to "fool the world"?!?!

what good is knowing your history if you don't even know the facts about who did what, and why?

and really, the best way to get past race issues, (or any other problem for that matter) is to address it head on...focusing on the who, what, where, when, and why's ALONG WITH statistics AND proposed solutions...

this shyt CAN change, eventually...SOMEHOW; but just keep in mind that keeping it the same, will keep the same people in power...which is exactly what they want...but as time goes on, they want more and more, until they got it all...and if you don't think that the thought about having it all ain't even crossed their minds, then you are fooling nobody but yourself.

chuuch

the problem is when it comes to discussing race,it's like certain parts are too sensitive or w/e the fuk it is idk,so it never really gets dealt with..bring up slavery and 'we weren't the only slaves' or 'that was 200 years ago' so that part of the discussion gets distracted..bring up jim crow and it's 'well,that was really just the south'...bring up the many things that are still happening now and it's 'well,I don't think it's that bad' and you're like 'muthafukka what you mean you don't think? IT HAPPENED TO ME!!'
 
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