Rick Ross x Chrisette Michele “Mafia Music Pt. 2″ (Ross is a problem)

[Live a Dream]

This guy is so busy building a delusional image and in between all this "richness" he can't even take care of his own kids, how can you even respect a guy like this?

You living a pseudo-lifestyle while the mother of your kid is struggling to take care of your own kid, this ain't no mafia boss, this is a insult to the Italian culture, in Italy it's all about family and being there for each other. Real Italian mafia bosses build empires to serve for their kids and the kids of their kids.

All Rick Ross has is hot music, take the music away and you got a b*tch ass motha****a.

I'd still produce for him tho, business is business...

I'ma see if I can submit some tracks LOL jk

 

[MUSIKFIEND]

LOL @ all the Ross haters. We get it he's not selling records, he fabricated his past & severely embellishes. People who are still fans are fans of Rick Ross THE RAPPER, all the other sh*t is frivolous b/c rich or broke real or fake he aint puttin no bread in any of our pockets unless you're selling him tracks. Just listen to the songs (or dont) comment on them, & keep it movin Jesus, lol.

 

[Isk2009]

Sometimes I think Ross truly believes he actually was a mob boss at some point in his life. I don't know why be he just irritates me.

 

[youngregin]

His beard is a problem.

 

[IAMSOSA]

Ross look like he losing weight

 

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

LOL @ all the Ross haters. We get it he's not selling records, he fabricated his past & severely embellishes. People who are still fans are fans of Rick Ross THE RAPPER, all the other sh*t is frivolous b/c rich or broke real or fake he aint puttin no bread in any of our pockets unless you're selling him tracks. Just listen to the songs (or dont) comment on them, & keep it movin Jesus, lol.

But are there really "Ross Haters" or simply the "Ross Informed". Coming from a dude who has "gotten money(hence the quotes)with him and moved on because there was really nothing to get.

I may come off as a "hater" because I speak truth against the nonsense he promotes...but you really think he's "making the company Maybach money?"

You really think he's "wealthy/anything beyond hood rich?" He ain't doing anything any other rapper 2-3 albums that avg. to 500k US units each is doing. Yukmouth? AZ? Pastor Troy? Keith Murray? Da Brat? Avg. rapper has "Ross money". He the only one pretending avg. rap money stretches like that. Dude act like he seen money 50, Jay and Wayne getting. He'll never even see the money dudes like Fat Joe, Game or Busta got at the rate he going.

But I'm a hater for telling you the piss he trying to sell you ain't lemonade.

I wish him the best, just amazes me that folk can't see the obvious even more than it amazes me that he fabricates at such an alarming rate. Plies got Ross money. Trina got Ross money. Drake got Ross money without an actual album out, lol.

Not directed @ you, reread the points I hit on in this thread and what posts even started me to talking. Dudes just say "the song is hot" and there's nothing left to be said. You acting like dudes in here ain't overlooking a few lies to beleive the others.

Don't drink the lemonade, folk.

 

[F00T]

That blue and white get-up with the red shades was not a good look....I couldn't even listen to the song because I kept thinking this:

was rapping.

 

[TBONENSB]

song and video is hot

 

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

That blue and white get-up with the red shades was not a good look....I couldn't even listen to the song because I kept thinking this:

was rapping.

Since trap music came out, I been waiting for some weed anthem white slinging southern artist to come out and call himself "Stay Puff da Marshmallow Man". I'm sure someone would blow just from naming themselves that.

 

[MUSIKFIEND]

But are there really "Ross Haters" or simply the "Ross Informed". Coming from a dude who has "gotten money(hence the quotes)with him and moved on because there was really nothing to get.

I may come off as a "hater" because I speak truth against the nonsense he promotes...but you really think he's "making the company Maybach money?"

You really think he's "wealthy/anything beyond hood rich?" He ain't doing anything any other rapper 2-3 albums that avg. to 500k US units each is doing. Yukmouth? AZ? Pastor Troy? Keith Murray? Da Brat? Avg. rapper has "Ross money". He the only one pretending avg. rap money stretches like that. Dude act like he seen money 50, Jay and Wayne getting. He'll never even see the money dudes like Fat Joe, Game or Busta got at the rate he going.

But I'm a hater for telling you the piss he trying to sell you ain't lemonade.

No i'm saying i dont care about all the rest of that stuff. I'm assuming that it's pretty common knowledge that Ross doesn't have bread like he acts like he has, just like most other rappers. Alot of dudes come in the thread talkin bout sh*t that has nothing to do w/ the song/vid. He makes music which i enjoy, therefore i listen. Artists who i don't like, i ignore. It aint rocket science.

 

[j.troup]

INFORMENT???


#fail



I wonder how he continuously gets away with infringing on Daimler/Chrystler's Maybach trademark.

 

[The-Chronics89]

Y'all dudes up here know everything without knowing anything. There's plenty of "Filty Rich Americans" yet, you relate that to a rapper who makes what a surgeon makes annually for 5 good years and then falls off? Maybach ain't making money off no damn rappers. Especially one who doesn't actually "own" one but shouts them out until the day he can't make the payment.

NBA Players, yeah, but not as much as they make off rich kids in Europe who order 3 at a time. Rich guys here who go thru mid life crisis and show up with one paid for cash that the wife insists they take back.

Just because hood dudes only know them from Jay and Ross mentioning and showing them off, don't mean they even thinking about those dudes business.

And if you couldn't identify with my seperation of leases, rentals, and purchases with monthly payments, you must've halfway skimmed my last posts. You own NONE OF THE ABOVE. 2 come with the option of possibly owning one day. A company like Maybach isn't "getting it's money" from any of the three. That like saying Dre and Timbaland get's their money from guys leasing their beats. Why when they can sell one for a fortune would they care about montly payments that add up to what owner's pay in insurance and maintenance.

Only riff raff are sad enough to make payments, lease, or rent cars that are made to be bought on a whim by the true wealthy. As for "these rappers" you keep mentioning. If you haven't cleared more than a few mill, you're not gonna get any bank to cover a half million dollar payment plan on a car when "musician" is your job title. No one signs, goes gets a Maybach and get's trapped by the label. They do that off 740 Beemers and 600 CLKs. No one who can't afford to pay cash in the entertainment world owns these type cars unless they're in someone else's name...and then...can they say they "own" them?

Maybach get's real money. The 6-10 Rappers who may actually own one are small potatoes to the company. They aren't impressed by rap money. Neither is Ferarri, Lotus, Aston Martin, Bugatti, even Bentley.

We just live in a world where some can only relate to these things when they see a rapper in one(on a vid shoot, cause most of your favorite rappers can't afford/have the credit to actually take one home).

But I get what you were trying to say. It's just flat out wrong. Standing in front of something every vid you do and shouting it out while the monthly payment eats at your pocket is not gonna influence or inspire the next guy to do the same when the audience your reach can't afford to fix the transmisson on their civic.

It's just showing them sh*t they know nothing about and never will. Don't forget how much closer he is financially to us than he is to the guys he pretends to be as rich as. I know dudes with h2s and SL500s who's family is taken care of, those Maybachs must be why his kids getting raised by call girls and women with no vehicle whatsoever? "Getting money"...right. When I came back to VA, I gave a car away, got here and copped another one, this dude can't give his kid's moms a means of to and from? He could give her the 57 and keep the 62, right?

Ok there's way too much here to discuss, but all I want to know is do you see my point about why LEASING a vehicle can make more sense than buying it outright - even for a filthy rich person?

You say that it "hurts" the lessees pocket - it can actually help your pocket to lease rather than to buy as a result of tax savings, depending on the interest rate implicit in the lease agreement of course.

The only other thing I'll say to all this is that leases wouldn't exist if the car company wasn't guaranteed to earn the same / greater amount of money as if they sold it outright. Theres an interest rate that all leases have implicit in them which guarantees a great total payment amount than a cash purchase.

Even if the owner defaults on the payments after a while the company gets the car back and can release / sell it outright to other people, so your comparison to leasing beats is really not appropriate in this situation.

Its kinda silly to think that the continued mention of brands like Maybach, Gucci, Louis Vuitton etc isn't going to benefit the respective companies in some way, shape or form. Remember that this music and its impact stretches far wider than the streets / hood. I'm not saying its generating a really noticeable amount of income for the brands, but there's no denying that the exposure is good for their bottom lines.

Soo off-topic lol.

 

[CCBones]

Rick Ross has always had dope music, it's just all his "off the court" issues that kind of bring him down. I'm a Florida boy so I know about him....he did dirt, but he wasn't anything like he makes himself out to be. The biggest plus for his street cred is that he runs with Gunplay, who is all the way certified.

 

[MUSIKFIEND]

I wonder how he continuously gets away with infringing on Daimler/Chrystler's Maybach trademark.

Now that i wanna know. They probably haven't even heard of him or Maybach Music, lol.

 

[CCBones]

Side note: Does anyone know if Ross is kinfolk or what ??? He keeps Larry Hover's name in his mouth, but in all their street videos his clique stays in dead clothes

 

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

Ok there's way too much here to discuss, but all I want to know is do you see my point about why LEASING a vehicle can make more sense than buying it outright - even for a filthy rich person?

You say that it "hurts" the lessees pocket - it can actually help your pocket to lease rather than to buy as a result of tax savings, depending on the interest rate implicit in the lease agreement of course.

The only other thing I'll say to all this is that leases wouldn't exist if the car company wasn't guaranteed to earn the same / greater amount of money as if they sold it outright. Theres an interest rate that all leases have implicit in them which guarantees a great total payment amount than a cash purchase.

Even if the owner defaults on the payments after a while the company gets the car back and can release / sell it outright to other people, so your comparison to leasing beats is really not appropriate in this situation.

Its kinda silly to think that the continued mention of brands like Maybach, Gucci, Louis Vuitton etc isn't going to benefit the respective companies in some way, shape or form. Remember that this music and its impact stretches far wider than the streets / hood. I'm not saying its generating a really noticeable amount of income for the brands, but there's no denying that the exposure is good for their bottom lines.

Soo off-topic lol.

Now you putting words in my mouth, find where I said leasing hurts anyone's pockets. You straying the discussion out of lack of ammo for the actual debate.

I said people who make payments on maybach aren't an interest to the company Maybach. Why? Because they're customized cars that are sold to order and if you making payments on one, you're not dealing with Maybach, you're dealing with a 3rd party.

Gucci and LV is a different discussion. Nikkas can spend a tax return or court settlement money on a few outfits when they living off crumbs piss poor year round, but I'll say again. Hip hop has no reach to advertise for Ferarri, Bugatti, Aston Martin, Bentley, Maybach. James Bond has probably sent them more clients in a year than Rick Ross, Jay, Wayne, and 50 put together over their entire careers. I do beleive hip hop influences broke dudes to throw $30k at a 300C, because of the resemblance. But I doubt you run up on anyone who works for Maybach who get's business from people after hearing about one in a song. The things been around for 70 or so years. Been on every blue blood's wishlist. "Dirt or ya shoulders" was the 1st time one even made a music vid. How they stay in biz all that time before? lol. This is the equivalent to folk who think Kanye made Taylor Swift successful when she sells more than he ever did to an audience he'll never reach.

To think otherwise indicates you only see these things in rap videos. There's a 17 year old kid in Berlin with 3 of those all bought cash while Ross is struggling to make his monthly payments 2 years in on a 10 year payment plan. Reality.

 

[j.troup]

^^^cosignage.

 

[MUSIKFIEND]

Rappers aren't doing anything for the high end car companies b/c their fanbases can't afford that Maybach or Ferrari. That's why you mainly see rappers advertising for Reebok, Coca-Cola, Wrigley's etc. Even 50 did a deal w/ Pontiac b/c that's an affordable car for his fans. Cheap products that their core audiences can afford. Never understood why dudes break their pockets on LV, Gucci, etc. Money aside, how fashion forward do you have to be to go in the Gucci store & grab anything you see b/c it has the Gucci logo on it (the same logo that everybody else is rockin).

 

[The-Chronics89]

Now you putting words in my mouth, find where I said leasing hurts anyone's pockets.

Standing in front of something every vid you do and shouting it out while the monthly payment eats at your pocket is not gonna influence or inspire the next guy to do the same when the audience your reach can't afford to fix the transmisson on their civic

You just make it sound like leasing a vehicle is less favourable than buying it outright.

I said people who make payments on maybach aren't an interest to the company Maybach. Why? Because they're customized cars that are sold to order and if you making payments on one, you're not dealing with Maybach, you're dealing with a 3rd party.

The third party has to buy the vehicle in order to lease it. So long as there is a demand for leased Maybachs, there's a demand for outright purchases = Maybach is seeing money from it.

I understand what you're saying and I agree with it though, the type of people MOSTLY who listen to rap and this type of music are in no position to actually buy these sorts of cars. O

ne thing it might do though is motivate a lot of people to try and attain one in the long-term. Its reaching, but from a long-term perspective the continued mention of expensive cars could actually be having a greater effect than we actually think on the revenue of these car companies. Not saying this is what I believe, just a different way of seeing things.

Just for the record, Maybach was only relaunched in 1997 after something like a 40 year hiatus - it made parts for military vehicles in WWII but was shut down not long after the war ended. But it was relaunced under Mercedes which does have a solid history behind it so I guess they sorta just tapped into the Mercedes buyers who were looking for a really really fancy set of wheels.

 

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

You just make it sound like leasing a vehicle is less favourable than buying it outright.



The third party has to buy the vehicle in order to lease it. So long as there is a demand for leased Maybachs, there's a demand for outright purchases = Maybach is seeing money from it.

I understand what you're saying and I agree with it though, the type of people MOSTLY who listen to rap and this type of music are in no position to actually buy these sorts of cars. O

ne thing it might do though is motivate a lot of people to try and attain one in the long-term. Its reaching, but from a long-term perspective the continued mention of expensive cars could actually be having a greater effect than we actually think on the revenue of these car companies. Not saying this is what I believe, just a different way of seeing things.

Just for the record, Maybach was only relaunched in 1997 after something like a 40 year hiatus - it made parts for military vehicles in WWII but was shut down not long after the war ended. But it was relaunced under Mercedes which does have a solid history behind it so I guess they sorta just tapped into the Mercedes buyers who were looking for a really really fancy set of wheels.

When someone names their sh*t "Maybach Music" without actually owning one.....

That's like Gucci Mayne not really owning any Gucci.

That's all I said. And companies that lease/rent out Maybachs make Maybach their money. Rick Ross don't make them sh*t, he just going thru a 3rd party like "Mercedes Bens of Valencia" who Maybach is actually "getting money from". "Mercedes Bens of Valencia" isn't even "getting their money' from Rick Ross.

And how is one "inspired" to go from their used Misubishi galant parked in front an apartment to one day owning a fleet of $600k Maybachs? Life don't work like that. lol. All the Maybach talk from all these rappers will equate to possibly 1 or 2 sales to some hood lottery winners. We might as well say "Michael Jackson was making people put fairgrounds on their property" or "P. Diddy was making people buy private jets and clearport space". Those are just as far fetched as spending close to a mill on a car to anyone influenced to do so by a rap song.

That's like saying an official Honda Lot "get's their money" off a guy who goes to the used section, buys a $3000 civic on payments, and tells everyone he knows to go check them. The saleman working that guy will be mad he missed the kid who dorpped $22k cash on something new.

I get what you wanted to be right, but it's absolutely wrong.