Rick Ross x Chrisette Michele “Mafia Music Pt. 2″ (Ross is a problem)

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As much as these dudes namedrop, LVMH, Maybach, Dior (NEVER understood why rappers talk about Dior, that always makes me LOL), etc...

These brands could give a **** about rappers, the hood, or any of this stuff. They got a brand reputation to uphold in a totally different market of people who are either a) afraid of black people and/or b) can actually afford to buy their products.

Thats why LVMH threw a fit when Ross was on that cover with those "Custom" sunglasses. They issued a statement saying stuff like that degrades their brand image...

you really think Ferarri let Gucci's clown ass buy a new car? They make like less than 10,000 new cars a year...people that can actually afford to buy one in cash tomorrow are placed on a long ass waiting list...

LOL @ Rappers for the most part....

I should go into the cash 4 gold business...cuz half these dudes are gonna be de-gemming their peices and melting those ****s down in 5 to 10 years.
 
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It's the same thing when Crystal answered with "we don't appreciate it" when they got asked how they feel about their champagne getting popularity in the hiphop scene. After that response Jay-Z removed all Crystal bottles from his restaurants and stopped talking good about it, and made it seem like it's their loss. I think if the company really would have seen a big jump up in sales after getting so much popularity in the hiphop scene they definitely would have responded more positively, at the end the money always wins, but considering their actual response it didn't seem like their sales went that much up. Jay-Z was probably the only rapper being able to afford it repeatedly anyway. B-List rappers kept drinking water and bought Crystal only for the music videos.
 
Live a Dream said:
It's the same thing when Crystal answered with "we don't appreciate it" when they got asked how they feel about their champagne getting popularity in the hiphop scene. After that response Jay-Z removed all Crystal bottles from his restaurants and stopped talking good about it, and made it seem like it's their loss. I think if the company really would have seen a big jump up in sales after getting so much popularity in the hiphop scene they definitely would have responded more positively, at the end the money always wins, but considering their actual response it didn't seem like their sales went that much up. Jay-Z was probably the only rapper being able to afford it repeatedly anyway. B-List rappers kept drinking water and bought Crystal only for the music videos.
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Most Couture and high end stuff dont wanna be associated with Hip Hop and minorities in general its been that way for years kinda like Tommy Hilfiger being mad at all the rappers wearin his stuff and Ralph Lauren reaping the benifit til this day I say there loss if i was running a business I wouldnt turn any dollar away Jay pouring my product on a female in a video doesnt really turn off potential customers because tha majority of them dont watch hip hop videos
 
T-MAC said:
As much as these dudes namedrop, LVMH, Maybach, Dior (NEVER understood why rappers talk about Dior, that always makes me LOL), etc...

These brands could give a **** about rappers, the hood, or any of this stuff. They got a brand reputation to uphold in a totally different market of people who are either a) afraid of black people and/or b) can actually afford to buy their products.
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Exactly. That's the same thing i think every time i hear rappers ODing name dropping their clothing lines, cars, etc. They don't give a f*ck about you so why support them.
 
CuzinQ said:
shout out to the 3 people who talked about the song
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4 real though, and anyways... Ross is a problem. Or, we can just go the route of backstabbing anyone left that spits real (not literal, just high quality) raps, and jump on the "lets all be 13-year-old groupies again" bandwagon and murder Hip Hop's kids, cuz we all know the original thing is long deceased...... f$ck...

any case, that man makes good a$$ music AND videos. yall think Wayne is tellin the truth? Jay's 100%? Soulja Boy is real? Drake's really a pimp too...

-i'm so half past gone already-
 
^Yeah & Jeezy sold all those bricks he raps about, lol. They all fabricate that's why i say just listen to the music if you like it not don't listen to it.
 
Would be nice if 20% of it was somewhat real though. Dudes got alotta black youth... hell, youth period... out there tryin to be super gangsta when super gangsta doesn't even exist, and the guys who DID do it are either dead, or dead.

The movies are good as hell though.
 
WatchWhatHappens1204 said:
Would be nice if 20% of it was somewhat real though. Dudes got alotta black youth... hell, youth period... out there tryin to be super gangsta when super gangsta doesn't even exist, and the guys who DID do it are either dead, or dead.

The movies are good as hell though.
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I know what you're saying but that's really not the rapper's fault it's the parents. Explain to your child that none of it is real. I hate when people try to blame music but don't blame movies or tv. It's all entertainment.
 
MUSIKFIEND said:
^Yeah & Jeezy sold all those bricks he raps about, lol. They all fabricate that's why i say just listen to the music if you like it not don't listen to it.
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Jeezy was BMF thats the only reason why he reps BMF crip gang and his name is on multiple court papers sayin he bought 20 to 30 kilos of coke at a time niggas aint gone snitch on you just because they gotta have something to go off if they tryin to get years off their sentence plus its common knowledge that Jay sold dope and wasnt just a nickle and dimer and 50 wasnt either that White benz he had in the movie wasnt just something made up for the movie it was a true thing you gotta be movin something to get a benz wit no credit and no 9 to 5
 
MUSIKFIEND said:
Exactly. That's the same thing i think every time i hear rappers ODing name dropping their clothing lines, cars, etc. They don't give a f*ck about you so why support them.
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They're not name dropping to support those brands. They're doing it to brag how much better they are than you (Not you specifically...but you as a consumer). You can't afford Hermes, Gucci, Prada...all that, so the rapper is taking a shot at you, not trying to promote some European brand.
 
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MUSIKFIEND said:
I know what you're saying but that's really not the rapper's fault it's the parents. Explain to your child that none of it is real. I hate when people try to blame music but don't blame movies or tv. It's all entertainment.
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I agree that it's all entertainment, but its not the same as movies or TV. Arnold didn't go on the Jay Leno show, or do every single interview pretending he was the T900 from Terminator. When he went on a talk show, newspaper, or any kind of interview, he did it as Arnold Schwarzenegger. When a rapper goes into every interview and pretends to be the coke smuggling, gang banging, boss, he can't be compared to an actor. Actors don't do that. They ONLY play the role within the confines of a movie or television show. There is a clear distinction between the "character" and the real life person. The actor clearly establishes that, and the consumer clearly understands it.


Rappers don't do that. That's why they shouldn't be given the same privilege as actors. I can respect Edward Norton for his performance as a Nazi skin head in America History X; while still acknowledge that that's not who he is in real life. But it's different when the rapper is still pretending to be that character when he's interviewed by some news reporter. If you take this approach as a rapper, you are trying to blur the lines between entertainment and reality. If you get called out for it, you deserve it.
 
BIGMOZ said:
They're not name dropping to support those brands. They're doing it to brag how much better they are than you (Not you specifically...but you as a consumer). You can't afford Hermes, Gucci, Prada...all that, so the rapper is taking a shot at you, not trying to promote some European brand.
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But in the process their supporting them b/c their shouting their brand's names & spending a lot of money w/ them. & they could give 2 sh*ts about them (i.e. Crystal). Makes no sense.
 
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BIGMOZ said:
I agree that it's all entertainment, but its not the same as movies or TV. Arnold didn't go on the Jay Leno show, or do every single interview pretending he was the T900 from Terminator. When he went on a talk show, newspaper, or any kind of interview, he did it as Arnold Schwarzenegger. When a rapper goes into every interview and pretends to be the coke smuggling, gang banging, boss, he can't be compared to an actor. Actors don't do that. They ONLY play the role within the confines of a movie or television show. There is a clear distinction between the "character" and the real life person. The actor clearly establishes that, and the consumer clearly understands it.


Rappers don't do that. That's why they shouldn't be given the same privilege as actors. I can respect Edward Norton for his performance as a Nazi skin head in America History X; while still acknowledge that that's not who he is in real life. But it's different when the rapper is still pretending to be that character when he's interviewed by some news reporter. If you take this approach as a rapper, you are trying to blur the lines between entertainment and reality. If you get called out for it, you deserve it.
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An young impressionable kid probably doesn't know that that movie or TV show isn't real unless someone older explains it to them the same way it should be done w/ rap music. Nowadays you can easily draw a parallel between rap & pro wrestling. Most young wrestling fans believe that pro wrestling is real & that the wrestlers are actually their entertainment persona in real life.
 
I was confused, lol, I'm like who the hell is Crystal? Crystal Pepsi? Didn't they beef with Ludacris? lol.

It's Cristal. Not being a spell check douche, I misspell at least 2 words a post, just correcting for people who may have missed what was being discussed. I did, lol.
 
MUSIKFIEND said:
^Yeah & Jeezy sold all those bricks he raps about, lol. They all fabricate that's why i say just listen to the music if you like it not don't listen to it.
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Difference is, when Jeezy's click started getting football numbers for their involvement in drug traffiking and gang activity, he started rapping less about slinging.

50 Cent rapped about drug dealers who ran the streets of queens who he actually worked for......

Nas Rapped about what he seen outside his window and what his friends were doing.....

Jay-Z funded his label with street money and ran with dudes like D'Haven and Mr. Freeze, also had ties to traffiking in NC with B.I.G.(no e-snitching), he literally had hundreds of thousands in dirt green before rap.

Snoop murdered a dude over his rag color....nuff said, especially since snoop hasn't "Gangsta Rapped" in years.

Malice of the Clipse was in the military. Was slinging before he went, came home on a discharge, went right back to it. He won't try to pretend he was never there, but anyone on the block will vouch him and his brother had ties to that as well.

2 Pac wasn't raised as a drug dealer. He came from a pro black background, and although his rhymes sometimes told stories of why drugs are sold in the hood, that was one of the many points he touched on. And in all fairness, he was shot the f**k up, always fighting folk, and shot 2 cops, dude wasn't very "fake" at all, just not a "drug dealer".

Kieth Murray went to college. Was proud of his degree and made an effort to display his intelligence whenever he could. Never once rapped about slinging, did rap about things he did. Still did a bid, stomped the sh*t out of a few people(famous and otherwise, to this day L.O.D. is banned from most NYC clubs), and smokes more than a chimney.

Ross raps about things that are beyond fairy tale street sh*t...and on top of all that he was the f**king Law Enforcement. Act's like he's fashoinable when he wears fake sh*t because the brands don't even make things in his size and when he says they were customized, the brands have spokespeople come out and say they weren't. Alot of truth mixed in with the fiction on everyone else's behalf, why not the same with Ross? I'm amused folk can't find a difference, or at least pretend they can't. :cheers:
 
The song and video were still great. Truth or fairy tale, its still better than 95% of the rap out right now.
 
what is this "slingin" word i see so much on this website the term is "slangin"pronouced slang-in....slangin

i thought old white people only said slingin cuz they got the lingo twisted or is this what you guys say in other states?
 
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