^^ um... its not that simple.
Making music or HHop isn't rocket science, but making songs that people choose to listen to are a whole different story.
Like someone can say: "here I made a song"
OK good for you. Thats not too hard.
But for someone to say: "here I made a hit song that people enjoy so much that they love it and want to spend money to hear it in concert and on their iPod"
That right there is the big picture. Anyone can read about rocket science and learn the formulas, but there are no formulas for making a song people will love/listen to. You cant buy love. The only way to make songs like that on purpose is to understand your audience which is made up of complex human beings and almost infinite variables affecting what they like and give their attention to. Stuff like that you cant learn, only feel. Its an art and a science, not just a science.
At this junction I could be cliche and challenge you two to post something you've ever done, and then clown it, but I wont.
There you go rome...I read through this entire post to find where/when he would finally admit it.
I have a strong feeling that RSE finally understands that there are things that theory just aren't going to teach you.
Everyone else read this who was in that same boat, who couldn't grasp what we were saying when explaining that music theory is simply a language...not the art itself. English is a language...but it isn't poetry. You have to take that language, make sense of it, and then turn it into art. There isn't a book on that...it's just taste. And the only way to develop taste is by LISTENING. Listening to advice, criticism, and of course...more music.
RSE, I read another post by you where you basically were saying you find it hard to judge or critique your own material and not fall under the symptom of loving your own music when it really isn't as good as you think.
Well, I definitely can understand that, I think we all do. But what's up with the theatrics? Someone mentioned adjusting your attitude and would be beneficial...I have to agree. Here is why based on facts...
Yes, you are right on the money that you are your not good at critiquing your material, which was proven when someone told you about the hard panning and you simply dismissed it until someone else went into further detail about your choirs. It was ridiculous panned hard. I don't see how you didn't notice except that you probably have phasing issues in your listening environment. Which means more than ever I would definitely try to get other ears to help or change your setup.
(btw, I'm not saying I am good or better at any of this...just saying I've been there so I'm just trying to help before you dig yourself even deeper holes.)
Also, you mentioned only making music when you're inspired or not being able to without having that inspiration. Again, that is another area that music theory is not going to get you out of.
However, there are non-music theories that I have that can help.
One of them being, when you do something you don't want to do, you learn a lot more by doing it than when you do want to do it. Which means...
If you were to sit down, with no inspiration at all, at your keyboard or cpu whatever, you will notice that your brain almost immediately starts to build its own music theory. This is something that is more difficult to do when you are "inspired" so to speak because inspiration usually happens when the brain picks up on something it sees or hears on the outside world and just tries to imitate it.
So, what that means, when you ARE NOT inspired, you are simply having a problem finding something to imitate into your music.
Here is how to solve the problem...it's creativity at its purest and it's how I make better music than most people I know, if not everyone
Get to work completely uninspired, and your brain will automatically crank into a creative gear. It will be a low gear when you first start. But eventually, you get better and better and better as your brain develops its OWN music theory that is tailored only to YOUR playing ability (and the capabilities of all that software you said you bought).
Another benefit this is going to have on your music is that you aren't going to put up with the bs. There will be no rules, no laws, no how tos because you aren't imitating anyone (you are subconsciously), you are simply laying down what is inside of you with no inspiration but the sounds you decide to pick for each part.
That solves yet another problem that I believe you have...SOUNDS. I mean I think, or I know that you have better sounds. I think it is important for any digital producer to really get into programming and sound design. It sounds technical but it's not at all.
I'm talking about layering, filtering, eqing, compressing, phasing, widening, distorting, everything you can do to a single sound that turns it into something else...something that YOU think sounds good. Forget everyone who says don't do this or you need to do this to get this. Hear for yourself, bro. I personally design all of my sounds and bring them together like an orchestra or band when it's time for me to compose. I make everything from the drums to the pads to the lead and develop a certain mood by creating sounds that go together instead of spending countless hours searching for that perfect sound that doesn't exist yet because you haven't learned to create it.
So, the big attitude adjustment here would be to stop procrastinating and get to work. Which doesn't mean go out and read a music theory book so you know your scales. It means, get in front of your instrument of choice and start making music. You can always go back and fix it later so don't worry about perfection yet. You may one day get to the point that you can mix as you compose, but until then just worry about the music itself. Get technical when you have it laid out in front of you.
Another thing...This thread is how many pages long? And it got you what? 4 helpful responses?
Stop fooling yourselves thinking you gotta be a douche or be fake in any way to get your music heard.
RSE, I had plenty of respect for you to legitimately check out your music had you posted up a link to your music without the dramatics. And I kept reading your other posts like you were trying to play it down and it just wasn't working. You said what you said so you got a dozen pages of crap and a page of what might have been three or four pages of quality feedback had you asked for it.
I think everyone who did comment would have also commented with a critique instead of bs if you chose the better route.
Being online is cool because you get to create a whole other identity for yourself other than your physical one...why make your digital one a douche? ...yeah I get it, you were just kidding around...but look at how many people didn't get it. That's the digital world for you...we can't see your facial expression or hear your tone except for the people who have read enough of your posts.
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