noblewordz
sexing your mother
Name a whitey with a better catalogue than Al.
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trumindz
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Nothing wrong with gypsies. Some of those MFs are cool as hell. Best singers from former Yugoslavia have a gypsy background.
LOL how did this end up in a Rap & Hip-Hop / R&B section?
GST
Imma rapper's producer!!!
the point is tho,at one time it seemed like white folks didn't measure up but if you look at it,all these white producers make the same type of beats
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sticktrickpro
sticktrickproductions.com
rick rubin isn't a great producer because hes white, hes a great producer because hes extremely well-listened.
jaydee wasn't a great producer because he was black, he was a great producer because he spend his days listening to thousands of records, therefore he too has extremely well-listened.
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jaydee wasn't a great producer because he was black, he was a great producer because he spend his days listening to thousands of records, therefore he too has extremely well-listened.
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MadTiger3000
Natural Philospher
I would have used a different example for the Negro (haha!), but that is a good point.
EDIT: Since there are some new people and some lurkers, let me explain that I am black, and I used the word Negro to make a point, and as a joke. I repeat: I am black. FP, I tell ya.
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Ekco4ever
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Depends on what genre your in
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JeanLukPigheart
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the first person telling you "you ain't got what it takes" as a white producer in hip hop/rnb..........will be the white label executive.
put 50 african kids in billionaire families and they will grow up to be spoiled, private school taught, coke-snorting, poverty hating, jaded mofu......with a degree and a "CEO's son" job.
put 50 white kids on the "hood & rap" diet and they will grow up to become the next NWAs, 50 cents and DMXs.
was it done before? no. did white people have the same access to the "street music & culture" as black ones before? no.
but these days, the access to knowledge and entertainment is similar, so in the future you will see the results. sounds complicated, but it's as simple as that: we are what we are taught we are.
and if you are a white producer who has "that bounce, that nasty, that Gucci stuff"...........play it to a blindfolded black executive.
at least you won't be asked if you were shot before or if you have been to jail and how many "baby mamas" you got.
music we love sees no color. those who sell and listen to it, they do.
put 50 african kids in billionaire families and they will grow up to be spoiled, private school taught, coke-snorting, poverty hating, jaded mofu......with a degree and a "CEO's son" job.
put 50 white kids on the "hood & rap" diet and they will grow up to become the next NWAs, 50 cents and DMXs.
was it done before? no. did white people have the same access to the "street music & culture" as black ones before? no.
but these days, the access to knowledge and entertainment is similar, so in the future you will see the results. sounds complicated, but it's as simple as that: we are what we are taught we are.
and if you are a white producer who has "that bounce, that nasty, that Gucci stuff"...........play it to a blindfolded black executive.
at least you won't be asked if you were shot before or if you have been to jail and how many "baby mamas" you got.
music we love sees no color. those who sell and listen to it, they do.
jay_jizle
needs more cowbell...
Robot Sunset Extreme
New member
^ I agree
the whole drum and melody thing is also related to testosterone.
Drums lend themselves to high levels of testosterone.
Melody lends itself to calmer more brainy people with less testosterone and more of an appetite for docile serenity.
Out of the three ethnicities, Asian, African, and Caucasian, the Asian pool of samples on average will have the least testosterone in the populations while African has more on average.
Testosterone makes you more aggressive and it was what made us biologically motivated as hunters to kill and banging drums is a form of striking down. People with high testosterone like drums.
While testosterone gives one physical aggression, it overwhelms the mind and the sense of "cognitive patience" in our brains that it takes to devote focus to more complex mental processes.
For example Asians are stereotypicaly good at Math and non athletic; meaning they have less testosterone fuling their physical movements but more mental focus is available because of the calming patience of their (relatively undriven) mental states. That's also why many Asians choose not to talk much. Stereotypically Africans in the US who have been optimized for testosterone and work during the slavery years consequently have more testosterone on average in their ethnic pool so that is why more athletes happen to be of African decent. That's why there is the stereotype of "black people talking loud" because there is more testosterone and physical stress/energy naturaly and the same goes with Math. People with more testosterone would rather go to go swing a baseball bat and hit some balls than do some calculus. People with less testosterone would rather do a soothing activity like yoga or listen to some spa music and relax with some tea than go out and play rugby.
And these patterns play out In music. Asian music is all soothing flutes and melodies. African music is just banging on drums. Bring it all together and we have the music that we have been making since circa 03.
Africans had the original level of testosterone, then we migrated away from Africa (then back) then away to where we lost some pigment and gained more cerebral power/patience at the expense of testosterone and the Caucasian and Asians evolved ove the millions and millions of years.
There is also the common misconception that people with high testosterone are more athletic but not as "smart." smart is a misleading word because people with more testosterone are smarter in ways: for example they make better leaders and are more confident. But it's that cloudy lack of focus that comes from having too much testosterone that gives tht impression. You can only be either or usualy, but if you are strong at both the physical and the mental, then you are Kobe Bryant.
In music, women and Asians like soft melody and chord music while Africans and south Americans like hard drums and pulsation. These are all sterotypes and generalizations for the purpose of helping people understand how the world works
the whole drum and melody thing is also related to testosterone.
Drums lend themselves to high levels of testosterone.
Melody lends itself to calmer more brainy people with less testosterone and more of an appetite for docile serenity.
Out of the three ethnicities, Asian, African, and Caucasian, the Asian pool of samples on average will have the least testosterone in the populations while African has more on average.
Testosterone makes you more aggressive and it was what made us biologically motivated as hunters to kill and banging drums is a form of striking down. People with high testosterone like drums.
While testosterone gives one physical aggression, it overwhelms the mind and the sense of "cognitive patience" in our brains that it takes to devote focus to more complex mental processes.
For example Asians are stereotypicaly good at Math and non athletic; meaning they have less testosterone fuling their physical movements but more mental focus is available because of the calming patience of their (relatively undriven) mental states. That's also why many Asians choose not to talk much. Stereotypically Africans in the US who have been optimized for testosterone and work during the slavery years consequently have more testosterone on average in their ethnic pool so that is why more athletes happen to be of African decent. That's why there is the stereotype of "black people talking loud" because there is more testosterone and physical stress/energy naturaly and the same goes with Math. People with more testosterone would rather go to go swing a baseball bat and hit some balls than do some calculus. People with less testosterone would rather do a soothing activity like yoga or listen to some spa music and relax with some tea than go out and play rugby.
And these patterns play out In music. Asian music is all soothing flutes and melodies. African music is just banging on drums. Bring it all together and we have the music that we have been making since circa 03.
Africans had the original level of testosterone, then we migrated away from Africa (then back) then away to where we lost some pigment and gained more cerebral power/patience at the expense of testosterone and the Caucasian and Asians evolved ove the millions and millions of years.
There is also the common misconception that people with high testosterone are more athletic but not as "smart." smart is a misleading word because people with more testosterone are smarter in ways: for example they make better leaders and are more confident. But it's that cloudy lack of focus that comes from having too much testosterone that gives tht impression. You can only be either or usualy, but if you are strong at both the physical and the mental, then you are Kobe Bryant.
In music, women and Asians like soft melody and chord music while Africans and south Americans like hard drums and pulsation. These are all sterotypes and generalizations for the purpose of helping people understand how the world works
F00T
New member
Dear god Robot....on some Aryan Nation ish..you remind me of when Tim The Toolman Taylor retells a story that Wilson just told him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism
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NoVA Entertainment
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Yeah...I know I do. I find it hard to believe you had to ask that question, but I can understand you simply wanting to talk about it. Anyone that says otherwise needs to give listening to other music a try for once.
Of course the answer is yes. To have "more musical taste" you have to listen to more music. The taste doesn't just appear from nothing. It comes from listening.
You know what's really funny though? Hip hop has gotten to the point where I feel like they have convinced people to call that biting too. And if that is true, then I say GORGE YOURSELF. Hip hop culture really hurts its music sometimes by not allowing people to explore what has been done to make it into something new...
neverenoughfunk
New member
you know i had to add my two cents...
the white boyz are expose to more...
to better studio systems in the home to a wider collection of music in the home to being in the school band to taking piano lessons when they were young etc...
most afro american parents had motown, top sound of philly, gospel, etc in their homes but the white boys (not calling them that in a negitive since but when a white boy is good a something they are "good") they may have motown, top sound of philly, but they also have led zepplin, beatles, fusion jazz (chic corea, billy cobham, etc), tradition jazz (coltrane), classical and so on...
it all breaks down to what an individual is expose too...
you go to a blues concert and you rarely would see afro americans there...
exposure is the key to this discussion...
the white boyz are expose to more...
to better studio systems in the home to a wider collection of music in the home to being in the school band to taking piano lessons when they were young etc...
most afro american parents had motown, top sound of philly, gospel, etc in their homes but the white boys (not calling them that in a negitive since but when a white boy is good a something they are "good") they may have motown, top sound of philly, but they also have led zepplin, beatles, fusion jazz (chic corea, billy cobham, etc), tradition jazz (coltrane), classical and so on...
it all breaks down to what an individual is expose too...
you go to a blues concert and you rarely would see afro americans there...
exposure is the key to this discussion...
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trumindz
Guest
Why are you people trying to explain music? **** that, that's the only thing I DON'T need explained.
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gwrtheyrn
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Xabiton
Cupcake God
yeah its kinda true tho. black music is generally very focused around rhythm. Drums and a lot of people miss that.
Red Scare
New member
"Moral of the Story"
Who the f*ck cares???
Do You!!
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Who the f*ck cares???
Do You!!
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jay_jizle
needs more cowbell...
So many stereotypes...
Just fyi my (white) parents did listen to the beatles a lot, but most of their old records are folk music. No zepplin, no jazz, very little classical...I'm talking Arlo Guthrie folk music.
My dad listens to nothing but Jimmy-f*cking-Buffet now a days. I mean every time I go to my parents house I hear this sh*t. I'm amazed at how someone who lived through arguably the greatest musical time period ever could move on to that...and then stay there like its nothing...(don't get me wrong, he's got some catchy kick-back-on-the-beach-with-a-drink-and-a-woman songs, but EVERY DAY?!? really?)
I'm very grateful that my girls family is black and has a ton of music influences that I do not. I love digging through their dad's and uncles crates. I find sh*t that I heard before and liked but never knew who the f*ck it was...
And of course white people make things better. We don't have wide noses breathing up all the air and we don't think we're the best dancers...
Aykey
The mother****in truth
It's really about personal taste.
But kno from cunninlynguists if you're looking for that soulful stuff.
And stoupe from JMT with that deep chipmunk voice music heh.
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Ekco4ever
I <3 DISCO HOUSE
catch phrase?