j.troup
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In 2011 and beyond, what separates the PROFESSIONAL PRODUCER from everyone else?
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World Wide
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The time and persistence to hone their craft, their ability to establish and cultivate relationships, and their ability to present what they have to offer as a win/win for all parties involved.
JayLip
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I consider someone with experience to be professional. So you're a professional if you've reached the upper echelon of working with people and seeing success through that work, be it a placement on a money making venture, or just exposure on a major level.
Sidenote, I was looking at the vid of you recording with Yung Tyke, Bay Cheese and Get It Quick Ent, but the vid seemed to lag, is that my computer or the ustream feed?
Sidenote, I was looking at the vid of you recording with Yung Tyke, Bay Cheese and Get It Quick Ent, but the vid seemed to lag, is that my computer or the ustream feed?
j.troup
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But experience doesn't necessarily lend itself to EXPERTISE. I have 20 years of experience on the basketball court, but I'm far from a professional.
What are the characteristics and skill sets of a PROFESSIONAL PRODUCER that separates them from the guy with a load of equipment and makes nice beats in his bedroom??
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World Wide
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^^^ it boils down to plain and simple SALESMANSHIP.
This is the analogy I always use: Your mother might make the most bangin hamburger you ever ate in your life... that shit is delicious perfection... and yet McDonalds is still outselling her by a billion burgers.
The Music Business is... shocker... A BUSINESS. Its about making money. Your ability to convince someone else that you can help them make (more) money is the bottom line, end-all-be-all of success in the music business.
This is the analogy I always use: Your mother might make the most bangin hamburger you ever ate in your life... that shit is delicious perfection... and yet McDonalds is still outselling her by a billion burgers.
The Music Business is... shocker... A BUSINESS. Its about making money. Your ability to convince someone else that you can help them make (more) money is the bottom line, end-all-be-all of success in the music business.
Dre Major
Mix Engineer
Hits the nail on the head.
calmAss
New member
Hits....
JayLip
New member
Lex Luger makes the SAME beats he used to make before Hard in the Paint... but he was a 'bedroom producer' then, and a 'professional' now lol... using the same FL Studio and Windows OS laptop...
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mobeatz
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Professional Producer as in producing as a sole profession
Or make radio quality tracks?
In both cases I don't think there are as many.
Having access to all the tools doesn't equal "professional" producer.
Bat all things being equal your marketing skills and your grind, hustle, will set you apart.
Or make radio quality tracks?
In both cases I don't think there are as many.
Having access to all the tools doesn't equal "professional" producer.
Bat all things being equal your marketing skills and your grind, hustle, will set you apart.
cinnay_4
New member
Man music is music. Idgaf what you make your beats on. If i like them i like them. **** the label "professional" in an industry like music.
j.troup
New member
But there was clearly some catalyst that propelled him from "bedroom" producer to "professional".
What did he acquire that was different? How did he develop to take him to that next level?
What skill set does a PROFESSIONAL PRODUCER have?
What sets apart "maker of hot beats in the bedroom" from Timbaland (aside from the hit records and money)??
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T-MAC
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professional to me means a couple different things. taken literally a professional producer does music for a living. that's his profession .
but its also a state of mind - your work ethic, how you carry yourself, how you handle yourself, how you present yourself; those small things found in the details that really sets you apart from the rest. not being a fly-by-night hobbyiest. investing in yourself/your craft. thats professional to me.
SoundClick artist: T-MAC BEATS NY - page with MP3 music downloads
but its also a state of mind - your work ethic, how you carry yourself, how you handle yourself, how you present yourself; those small things found in the details that really sets you apart from the rest. not being a fly-by-night hobbyiest. investing in yourself/your craft. thats professional to me.
SoundClick artist: T-MAC BEATS NY - page with MP3 music downloads
SFTRAXX
West Coast Rap Producer
Working with artists.
F00T
New member
This...stop hiding your beats for X superstar....build songs from the ground up....even doctors have to practice on frogs before they can do the real thing. And who knows one if those frogs may turn into the Prince of Rap/Pop/Rock
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Shannon Jack UK
Uk hiphop producer
Such a good question & while thinking of my opinion i learned from this. My opinion is...
If you can make "professional music" in your bedroom then it isn't the quality of music that separates the bedroom producer from the "professional producer".
First i would say its about attitude because if your attitude is for example a "street oriented" how are you going to have a business meeting with a group of professionals? Turn up in your Jordan's and start speaking street slang?
Second - public appearance is important, if your not holding yourself as professional then don't expect to be treated professional!
Third - whats having a professional attitude & being seen as professional if your not going to make music producing your profession? Construct a business plan, register your label as a company ect ect i wont go into the ins/outs.
fourth - I can't be bothered to go on any longer i could write down 1000 things but you should get my drift from what i said first "If you can make "professional music" in your bedroom then it isn't the quality of music that separates the bedroom producer from the "professional producer"."
Going to check out these pictures on twitter of amber rose naked
bye!
If you can make "professional music" in your bedroom then it isn't the quality of music that separates the bedroom producer from the "professional producer".
First i would say its about attitude because if your attitude is for example a "street oriented" how are you going to have a business meeting with a group of professionals? Turn up in your Jordan's and start speaking street slang?
Second - public appearance is important, if your not holding yourself as professional then don't expect to be treated professional!
Third - whats having a professional attitude & being seen as professional if your not going to make music producing your profession? Construct a business plan, register your label as a company ect ect i wont go into the ins/outs.
fourth - I can't be bothered to go on any longer i could write down 1000 things but you should get my drift from what i said first "If you can make "professional music" in your bedroom then it isn't the quality of music that separates the bedroom producer from the "professional producer"."
Going to check out these pictures on twitter of amber rose naked
bye!
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YOUNG TEX
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Track record/established artist whom you have worked with(having name/brand) +sound quality that is up to par with commercial releases= professional. If you already have the sound quality then you need the track record to build your name/brand to go from amateur (bedroom producer) to professional ie Lex Luger
ScorchinBeats
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Aside from that, nothing
By the way, somebody show me where to find a professional recording, mixing, and mastering house in a bedroom.
"hot beetz" does not equal professional. Professional means working in a studio with fully treated rooms, nice preamps, a full PT HD system, etc... KRK's, a prosnous, and some bass traps doesn't equal pro.
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mobeatz
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You need to look behind the scenes.
Do you know if Lugar had contacts, do you know how he networked, do you know how he hustled?
Beaing a "producer" means you are wearing many hats at once. From the creative process to the engineering to the marketing/branding process.
People always look at the finished product and say oh that's easy I can do that. Forgetting that there is a lot that goes on behind the scenes.
Do you know if Lugar had contacts, do you know how he networked, do you know how he hustled?
Beaing a "producer" means you are wearing many hats at once. From the creative process to the engineering to the marketing/branding process.
People always look at the finished product and say oh that's easy I can do that. Forgetting that there is a lot that goes on behind the scenes.
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IanMathews
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IMO, Professional means you're getting paid to do what you do. If you sell enough $.99 beat leases per month (or license enough songs via Taxi or something) to feed your family & pay your bills, then you are professionally making & selling music. Doesn't even matter if you ever make it past that level. You're sustaining yourself by selling your tunes. That's your profession.
If you're looking for what makes someone "act" or "appear" more professional than another, then it's been said all over this thread already.
If you're looking for what makes someone "act" or "appear" more professional than another, then it's been said all over this thread already.
Xabiton
Cupcake God
the actual art of producing which we all know has little to nothing to do with making beats. a great producer in 2011 can find great beats and get them to their artists and create great songs. Most people want to be composers and don't know it.