what is the difference from audio producer and audio engineer?

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fixed that for you and merged them into one thread - @op: one freebie; after this duplicate threads get penalised with full vigour

as for the rest, my son is currently studying audio engineering and they have a significant production aspect as they are teaching them sound design and theory as well as electronics (repair and design and building), mixing, tracking and mastering - so it entirely depends on the individual institutions curriculum goals

Sounds the same as mine. There are a ton of aspects that help with producing, but lots of guys there don't even realize it. Its amazing how many people in my class don't pay attention or just have a lack of 'giving a %^#$" in any classes that don't DIRECTLY and OBVIOUSLY relate to helping them build a beat right now

why wait for school start making beats now

what equipment do you have now?
do you have a computer?
do you have a DAW?
do you have a MIDI keyboard?
Im assuming he hasn't started anything yet, this is why I'm telling him to wait until he knows what he is actually gonna be going to school for.
But OP, if you do have some background let us now.
 
he says he wants to make hip-hop beats ..I don't understand why he's waiting to go to school for that
start now today
 
Yes, lots of schools have program called Audio Engineering AND production..MOST of them have the individual courses you are thinking of, but MOST audio schools are also shit. If you are going to go you better be putting research into where.. AE & P usually costs more but its covers almost everything that the little classes specifically cover. Its like a "blanket" degree over top of the other ones. Obviously this varies from school to school, but I know for a fact I'm right. Its all I looked into for like a year. I don't even like the schools that have a bunch of 'different' little classes that charge you like 5 grand for each one(electronic music, ableton workshop, etc.) THATS a money grab. IF you are interested in going to school, those individual classes are garbage unless you WANT to only take one specific one like that. But if you are going for a general education in audio. The only way to go is to find a GOOD "Audio Engineering & Production" year+ long course. Mine right now has an entire class of a semester dedicated to Songwriting, Music theory and arrangement. But thats only one class of 16.

My audio engineering and production course covers everything from theory, ableton, reason, Pro tools, digital and analogue signal processing, studio maintenance, career management, etc.. It really touches on everything. Most schools don't, but like I said, most schools are garbage that just want more money so they charge extra for each individual class.
Is a 9 month long Audio Technology Program in NYC SAE Institute all right?
 
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why wait for school start making beats now

what equipment do you have now?
do you have a computer?
do you have a DAW?
do you have a MIDI keyboard?
I don't have any equipment. How am I supposed to start making beats now when I don't know how?
 
you must have a computer unless you are logging in from a library

getting a daw is straight forward - get a copy of reaper never ending demo and a $60 license once you feel the need to pay for it

everything else in terms of equipment can come later

as for learning read and watch stuff about theory mixing, sampling, chopping, etc
 
Sounds the same as mine. There are a ton of aspects that help with producing, but lots of guys there don't even realize it. Its amazing how many people in my class don't pay attention or just have a lack of 'giving a %^#$" in any classes that don't DIRECTLY and OBVIOUSLY relate to helping them build a beat right now


Im assuming he hasn't started anything yet, this is why I'm telling him to wait until he knows what he is actually gonna be going to school for.
But OP, if you do have some background let us now.
I don't have any background at all. That's why I want to go to school.
 
I don't have any equipment. How am I supposed to start making beats now when I don't know how?
By learning on your own, this is 2014. There is information everywhere.

This is EXACTLY what I was saying your problem is going to be. You are going to assume school will teach you everything you need to know on how to make a beat. They won't. They will lay out the groundwork and its up to you to figure the rest out on your own. If you cant research for yourself right now what makes you think spending 10s of thousands of dollars on school will help. School is going to teach you what to do to make beats, not how to be a GOOD beat maker. There is going to be more research outside of school then you will spend in school. At least there should be.
Im in school right now, the ones who do good are the ones who come in with some sort of pre-studying they did on their own. The people who come in knowing absolutely nothing, and don't research outside of class, don't get anywhere.

Honestly I'm getting frustrated trying to beat the same point into your head on these 2 threads you made. You have all the information you need to make an informed decision by using common sense. No ones gonna hold your hand if you decide to take this road.
 
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It is painfully OBVIOUS you want to be a beatmaker/composer more than an engineer so lets forget about engineering for the moment and focus on the appropriate area of concentration: BEATMAKING/COMPOSITION.

You do not need school to do this (many of the people who have gone to school for music already had YEARS of training with an instrument, so for you-that is completely out of the question so don't even fuccin' worry about it)

Any further questions you may have related to college and/or audio engineering in this thread will be ignored, so don't bother.


Stop being a knucklehead and follow these steps:
1. Decide what kind of music you want to make
2. Get a copy of FLStudio
3. Buy a cheap midi controller
4. Realize it is gonna take lots of time to get anywhere with this music sh1t, so be patient and get to work!
....That's it! I just saved you $40k and you now have some piece of mind.
Now, if you STILL, STILL, STILL can't get your head around any of this, it is safe for us to acknowledge that you are a moron, and thus, will be treated as such.
 
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