And that's probably what a beginner is going to use the most, so why not judge them by features and interface? Say what you will, but the matrix interface is difficult to use and is not something that really inspires sound creation.
You must have missed the part where I said that, when compared to the MicroQ, the Radias would probably be a better product to learn on. As far as the Q interface, where do you see any semblance of matrix editing?
Radius has that too, pretty much standard for any higher end synth.
You curiously omitted addressing the part where I said that the Q could do all of those things simultaneously in one patch, all under semi-modular control. Picking and choosing which parts to attack me on makes you look like an ass.
Not really, it was priced at less than 1/2 of a virus.
Yes really. The Radias rack debuted at $1700.
The Access Virus TI desktop cost $1895 at the same time. Hardly half the price. The Radias' price dropped like a stone when Korg realized that consumers weren't as dumb as they hoped they would be.
Funny how you put one down by calling it a "me too" while praising another by calling it a "me too".
I don't understand how you think a flagship, bar raising, no corners cut, synth like the Q can be considered a "me too" product. Somehow I don't think that term means what you think it does.
That's just rabid fanboyism. They are both synths, they work the same way, and they do pretty much the same thing, you're just all wrapped up in synth-geek street cred, which Waldorf has more of because they are a small business and went out of business for a while.
Kias and Ferraris are both brands of cars as well. They work the same way, and they do pretty much the same thing. They both have engines, run on gas, and can get you to the grocery store when you run out of milk. Am I right?
You know what other company went out of business for a while? Korg, and they were bailed out by Yamaha. Alesis went out of business for a while too. Is it OK for me to say that you are getting wrapped up in synth-geek street cred every time you recommend an Andromeda to someone?
When trying to help new people, it's best to look at their needs rather than automatically recommending the synth that comes with the most cool points.
This thread is the equivalent of someone coming in and saying "Hey, I'm on a budget, which car should I get, a used Galant or a used Civic? By the way, I can get a Porsche for $100 more" and you coming in and screaming your head off for the guy to get the Civic because apparently it's "fanboyish" for me to tell someone to jump on a great deal when they see one.