Using Drum Loops

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Aye! What Up

I would like to know how many of yall use drum loops in your tracks. I have been very hesitant about using them but i have acouple that are just too hard man! Also, are they usaully professionally mixed and stuff. I know that the lop is compressed into one peice therefore i could never seperate each kick, snare, hat into its own track.

Let me know!
 
Like you said, there are a few that are real nice. Dont use em for the majority of your beats, but it's cool to use em once in a while especially if the loops fits the track. Tweak em, add some effects here and there etc... I'd prefer drum loops over those wack azz drum patterns Eminem used on Toy Soldiers and a few other tracks he produced. There also good for practicing your own drum patterns. Take a drum loop sample and tap out that same pattern on your drum pads. Then eventually start to do your own. I use em sometimes just for inspiration to come up with new drumming patterns and ideas. If you got Recycle, you can really get creative. You can replace snares, eliminate kicks, etc...
 
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MAKE YOUR OWN DAMN DRUMS!!!!!!



im kidding nah drum loops are are hard especially the old school soul ones aww man u cant get a better sound than that Kanye uses alot of drum loops
 
GetMondo99 said:
Aye! What Up

I would like to know how many of yall use drum loops in your tracks. I have been very hesitant about using them but i have acouple that are just too hard man! Also, are they usaully professionally mixed and stuff. I know that the lop is compressed into one peice therefore i could never seperate each kick, snare, hat into its own track.

Let me know!
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You actually can separate each track.

You could easily just use a beatslicer like ReDrum or Phatmatik Pro. Kontakt also has a beat slicer. Chances are you'll sitll want to mix your drum hits after you've sliced them up. I'm pretty sure you can even find a free beatslicer on www.kvraudio.com


I'll use a drum loop. You can easily switch around your drums or delete whatever hits you'd like to make it your own loop. I see it as being the same as sampling from vinyl.
 
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Thanks for the input fellas.

I actually have the same EXACT drum loop kanye used for "The Corner"
 
GetMondo99 said:
Thanks for the input fellas.

I actually have the same EXACT drum loop kanye used for "The Corner"
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I love the samples on that track and the filters.
 
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This may come off hypocritical...but IMO, its all good to use drum loops from old break beats, or something like that...but lets say you buy the vinyl for IN DA CLUB (50), and the intro, starts out with the drum beat all by itself, without any bass, or pizza strings in there...well if you were to lift that drum beat, and then use it, I think thats fukt up....and yes, you can consider using break beats as stealing as well, but breakbeats tend to be lofi, and not mixed and mastered, whereas the drum loop for IN DA CLUB is completely mixed, mastered, and stamped ready for the radio. TO lift something like that is not right, imo.


yes its hypocritical. Even to go beyond this, if you cut up the kick, hat and snare from In da club, and then resequence it in a different pattern, I think its all good as well. lol
 
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Peace GetMondo

"I know that the lop is compressed into one peice therefore i could never seperate each kick, snare, hat into its own track."

Oh yes ya could you can. If you have MPC 2000xl where you can see the hits in wave form editing you can cut it precisely. If it's just a drum pattern with kick hihat and snare you are good to go. Recycle will do even a better job, I have cut with both but I didn't use their drum patterns I use my own because if I catch old school type drums with just the snare, kick and hihat I am going to take it :). I don't get into loops like that only for sounds.

Peace
 
I've been using alot of drum loops lately for that "old School" sound Use to think that was wack cause I'm from the south (We like drum machines). But it puts a different twist on old jams I made a long time ago. They cool but I'd rather chop them up and replay them.
O'Cliff, Tx
 
I've never used drum loops, but if I ever come across a good one, I'll use it.

Although, I have sampled drum loops from tracks like Slick Rick's "Mona Lisa" for special occasions.
 
I've done it but I've stopped because I feel like I just produced a song made with Hip Hop Ejay...


I confessed in another thread, now it's over.

Slicing and rearranging is all you though.
 
Ive recently downloaded alot of drumloops, and personally never have used them in a track before. I mainly have used them to learn better drum programming. Listening to how and why the breaks sound so good, and trying to recreate them.

Something makes me feel that id be cheating to use them, cos i wanna feel like i made the track myself with no help. However i wud consider using them when making drum'n'bass tracks though. I wud make my own simple drum track and use a loop underneath it.
 
I like chopping breaks to get individuel hits and making drumkits this way. I rarely use a break though. Unless I want to add it as part of my drum loop like a filtered shaker pattern or whatever.

Peace
 
I like drumloops, some are hot but like someone else said if I use it through the whole song it feels like I'm cheating. I just made a track last week, and it has a small portion of a drumloop at the break....it sounds hot, but that's prolly as far as I'll go with it. I wud definately have to chop it up and use small sections incorporated with my own drums.
 
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Peace GetMondo

"I know that the lop is compressed into one peice therefore i could never seperate each kick, snare, hat into its own track."

Oh yes ya could you can. If you have MPC 2000xl where you can see the hits in wave form editing you can cut it precisely. If it's just a drum pattern with kick hihat and snare you are good to go. Recycle will do even a better job, I have cut with both but I didn't use their drum patterns I use my own because if I catch old school type drums with just the snare, kick and hihat I am going to take it :). I don't get into loops like that only for sounds.

Peace
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hell yeah use loops, do chops, layer sounds, whatever it takes to get the feel you want...
 
I've used them before when I first started. Now, I rather create my own.
 
Let me drop some knowledge on yall :).
The infamous drum loop Kanye used on songs like John Legend- Used to Love U...Talib Kweli-Get By and Keshia Coles-I changed my mind...is from an old record called
"Love Doggone"...I'm not sure if the artists name is Love or Doggone or if Love Doggone is the song name but...:)

Also the toms sounding kicks and clap loop he uses @ the begining of Jesus Walks, and for JadaKiss-Gettin it In is from an old Tempation song...
But One thing I noticed is the drum loops he uses are never credited in the booklets ...:confused:

Is Kanye not clearing them, or does he have a deal with the labels to keep them a secret?
 
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to me it dont matter, i never used one bud if you want to then thats your choice


but if you cutup the drums then its not a drum loop anymore, its just your own sounds that you sampled from a drum loop

i think i might use one just for fun, acctually we should all do a beat battle using the same drum loop, i think we should use the one from the "conner"
 
One thing I dislike about chopping drum loops is like...you'll still have that hi-hat (or whatever else is in the loop) on your snare or kick...so if I'm going to make use of them, I usually just loop them and build the beat around it (like kanye).I might layer the loop with my own drums, I noticed Kanye put a filtered 808 kit under the loop in John Legends I used to Love you (you can hear it at the begining of Jon's first verse).
By the way the loop from "The Corner" is the same from Get By, USed to Love U,Changed my Mind, except it's pitched down and filtered a little bit, and he added an extra kick into the sequence.
 
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