Lol, I expected nothing more from FPers than what I read in this thread. Good thing I talk to real musicians in real life. Y'all dudes would have me thinking I missed something or it went over my head. I know Terrace Martin. Follow him, so I've been excited about this project the entire time they've been working on it. I was disappointed with the outcome. Then in retrospect, knew nothing else could be done putting the people they put into these rooms.
The album was overproduced, over prolific, overly in depth for the sake of being called "artistic". It better win a grammy, because this is the shyt that wins grammys. If it doesn't, it's because the message was too "pro black".
With that said, strictly my opinion, I can't listen to this crap. The structure in lost in a flurry of instrumentation and unorthodox B.S. for the sake of "breaking musical boundaries". I can put it in the realm of tons of artists with more structure for more control over their end results. Sly and the Stone come to mind instantly. Raphael Saddiq. In hip hop, Tribe. Outkast. GooDie M.O.B. Hell, even Field Mob.
If this was a live studio version of a hip hop album, the equivalent of Jay's Blueprint unplugged, I'd tip my hat to it. All I can do is chuck this thread up to producers wanting something to sound "real" so bad they forgot what "real" sounds like. You guys did the same thing with Yeezus.
So while this bullshyt flies over, i'll be in here bumping Big Sean. And I don't even like Big Sean. Just the least wack shyt out right now.
The reason I'm extra harsh is because I wanted to love this album. Instead I was given something made to prove the guys involved were "real musicians" and deserved that grammy over Macklemore. We all knew that when Macklemore won it.
Lol, I expected nothing more from FPers than what I read in this thread. Good thing I talk to real musicians in real life. Y'all dudes would have me thinking I missed something or it went over my head. I know Terrace Martin. Follow him, so I've been excited about this project the entire time they've been working on it. I was disappointed with the outcome. Then in retrospect, knew nothing else could be done putting the people they put into these rooms.
The album was overproduced, over prolific, overly in depth for the sake of being called "artistic". It better win a grammy, because this is the shyt that wins grammys. If it doesn't, it's because the message was too "pro black".
With that said, strictly my opinion, I can't listen to this crap. The structure in lost in a flurry of instrumentation and unorthodox B.S. for the sake of "breaking musical boundaries". I can put it in the realm of tons of artists with more structure for more control over their end results. Sly and the Stone come to mind instantly. Raphael Saddiq. In hip hop, Tribe. Outkast. GooDie M.O.B. Hell, even Field Mob.
If this was a live studio version of a hip hop album, the equivalent of Jay's Blueprint unplugged, I'd tip my hat to it. All I can do is chuck this thread up to producers wanting something to sound "real" so bad they forgot what "real" sounds like. You guys did the same thing with Yeezus.
So while this bullshyt flies over, i'll be in here bumping Big Sean. And I don't even like Big Sean. Just the least wack shyt out right now.
The reason I'm extra harsh is because I wanted to love this album. Instead I was given something made to prove the guys involved were "real musicians" and deserved that grammy over Macklemore. We all knew that when Macklemore won it.
LOL.
Keep trying man
You didn't like it, I get that (even the pharrell tracks?lol). But u really think its a Dilla knock off?not only did they bootleg his style, these are actual dilla drums all over the album, like busta's lament snare on institutionalized
Maaaan, thank you for saying this shit right here!! It's exactly what I been telling people since the first time I heard it. Everybody is all singing TPAB's praises, and I'm like nah...he missed the mark. It's all artsy fartsy for no reason. I mean, he barely spits verses on the damn album.
It's over produced, it's over "artsy", it's just over EVERYTHING.
I said before this dropped, "Kendrick said he's channeling Miles Davis on this one, and that worries me. Because when artists say they are channeling people like Miles Davis, George Clinton, Sly Stone and Curtis Mayfield, they usually end up doing a BAD impression of them".
And that's exactly what this album was for me.
Sure, there were some bright spots, but I'm not a fan of his Black Power persona.
At first he was the kid from compton. Now he's all Black Messiah?
Lol, I expected nothing more from FPers than what I read in this thread. Good thing I talk to real musicians in real life. Y'all dudes would have me thinking I missed something or it went over my head. I know Terrace Martin. Follow him, so I've been excited about this project the entire time they've been working on it. I was disappointed with the outcome. Then in retrospect, knew nothing else could be done putting the people they put into these rooms.
The album was overproduced, over prolific, overly in depth for the sake of being called "artistic". It better win a grammy, because this is the shyt that wins grammys. If it doesn't, it's because the message was too "pro black".
With that said, strictly my opinion, I can't listen to this crap. The structure in lost in a flurry of instrumentation and unorthodox B.S. for the sake of "breaking musical boundaries". I can put it in the realm of tons of artists with more structure for more control over their end results. Sly and the Stone come to mind instantly. Raphael Saddiq. In hip hop, Tribe. Outkast. GooDie M.O.B. Hell, even Field Mob.
If this was a live studio version of a hip hop album, the equivalent of Jay's Blueprint unplugged, I'd tip my hat to it. All I can do is chuck this thread up to producers wanting something to sound "real" so bad they forgot what "real" sounds like. You guys did the same thing with Yeezus.
So while this bullshyt flies over, i'll be in here bumping Big Sean. And I don't even like Big Sean. Just the least wack shyt out right now.
The reason I'm extra harsh is because I wanted to love this album. Instead I was given something made to prove the guys involved were "real musicians" and deserved that grammy over Macklemore. We all knew that when Macklemore won it.
Maaaan, thank you for saying this shit right here!! It's exactly what I been telling people since the first time I heard it. Everybody is all singing TPAB's praises, and I'm like nah...he missed the mark. It's all artsy fartsy for no reason. I mean, he barely spits verses on the damn album.
It's over produced, it's over "artsy", it's just over EVERYTHING.
I said before this dropped, "Kendrick said he's channeling Miles Davis on this one, and that worries me. Because when artists say they are channeling people like Miles Davis, George Clinton, Sly Stone and Curtis Mayfield, they usually end up doing a BAD impression of them".
And that's exactly what this album was for me.
Sure, there were some bright spots, but I'm not a fan of his Black Power persona.
At first he was the kid from compton. Now he's all Black Messiah?
(and for the record, wasn't feeling D'angelo's album either)
So while this bullshyt flies over, i'll be in here bumping Big Sean. And I don't even like Big Sean. Just the least wack shyt out right now.
I don't get it, really.
Cats on here like they ain't got no appreciation for good music.
Its one thing to say i don't like it and don't mess with it, but it another thing say its knockoff, or overproduced, or a bunch of hype.
One cat said K Dot wasn't hardly rapping on the album, another said something to the effect that he knows musicians and that meant something.
One dude keeps talking about Kanye all out of context.
I say its classic, but I ask those who think its not a quality project to show or play me some examples all these perceived flaws.