The Producer and Rapper Relationship

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I think the best way to do it is get together with some of your friends and just make **** happen. I'm pretty sure that's how most crews got started. Its hard to foster art when you're working with complete strangers. The other solution: become an MC and rap over your own beats.
 
PhirstN3rd said:
I think the best way to do it is get together with some of your friends and just make **** happen. I'm pretty sure that's how most crews got started. Its hard to foster art when you're working with complete strangers. The other solution: become an MC and rap over your own beats.
yeah i'm trying to get down w/ some dudes who i'm cool with who rap. haven't heard them spit yet. we share tastes in music though lmfao. went to a rakim/ghostface a month or so back.
 
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Work from there. Develope a connection. Two heads are better than one.
 
bobsmitt said:
damn you're lucky. i'm jealous, wish i could work with a dude like that. you doing this over the net or in person?

i agree w/ a lot of what is being said. i think the trust between the rapper and producer is a big issue. i've always been looking for someone that i can do the duo thing or something. it would be nicer if it could be in person, but over the net could work too.

i just really want to be able to do more than just give some dudes a couple beats.

This is all in person..we've known each other for a long time..my best friend is his cousin...we live right down the street from each other and my son is 12 days younger than his twins. We moved to LA together to pursue our music full time..(then we moved back because of our kids..lol) but our relationship is deeper than just music..but we talk everyday about what we need to do to win with music and so far its been working...I think you have to really believe in each other to really make it work..im just fortunate to have this experience and to keep it going...
 
Man, I love it. Everyone here is making valid points without going for the jugular (sp?). Anyway, I completley believe that the producer - artist relationship is mutually beneficial. It's cool to be working on a track and be like "Man my artist _____ would kill this track." And then actually be able to see the idea come to life. I have something of a natural talent for music, and when I first started recording artists over my tracks, it would drive me insane when certain stuff that came naturally to me required some coaching on my part to get them to do right.

Honestly, as a producer, if you're gonna deal with someone who's wet behind the ears, be ready to coach them through stuff like voiceovers, ad-libs and how to stay on tone when you have to punch vocals. I've recorded with a gang of people who were recording for the first time, and I have never seen someone in that situation just walk into the booth and kill it. Just like anything else there's a slight learning curve to it, and if you as the producer, learn how to make the artist comfortable and get the best out of them, repeat business won't really be a problem.
 
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Since I started off as a rapper, doing vocals isn't that hard. But as a producer, you have to realize that, not everyone is as good as you in certain areas. I use to get frustrated trying to coach rappers on how to lay the proper vocals. Now I look forward to it, because I've learned so much from working on hip-hop projects.
 
Thanks. I only start threads when something is really only my mind. I've been down with FP for a few years now and my post count is very low. So im not as active as I would like...only when I want advice or to rant.
 
I am actually in the process of producing an entire album from start to finish. Most of the artists I am meeting want me to produce their entire album. I actually advise them to work with 2 or 3 prodcers to give the album the artists sound and not the producers individual sound
 
If you can check me out. You won't be disapointed. I have over 300 R&B and Rap tracks and over 30 diffrent projects complete available on hand for collabo's or if someone wants to buy the beat. If you want to here something more industry hit me up with a email on myspace and I will let you check out some of the more hot tracks.

Leave me some feedback if you could or add me if you dig what you here.

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I wish I had people to work with around here.

Everyone is so ****ing lazy...I don't think they REALLY want to do this
 
Then I would suggest you start doing **** for yourself. You only have one life to live. Do it yourself.
 
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