The Defintion of a Sell-Out

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someone who does an action that they wouldnt do unless they got a lot of money for it
 
Wil.i.am looks like he's doing a bojangles dance in the still image...


TechnikaL said:
I agree with Rome completely.

But for the sake of this thread, I present to you, The Black Eyed Peas:

Pre-Fergie


Post-Fergie


Sellin out at its finest...
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TechnikaL said:
I agree with Rome completely.

But for the sake of this thread, I present to you, The Black Eyed Peas:

Pre-Fergie


Post-Fergie


Sellin out at its finest...
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And then people say they are doing them, and they're being creative, individual and innovative, when all they do is what sells, just like anybody else.

The world knows one language and that's money...
 
I think 'Let's get it started' is a great record.
and falling up is boring a hell.
 
Live a Dream said:
What jobs were those?
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Ive had all kinds of jobs. Ive done several security jobs that I had fun at. I did Human Resources for a temp agency that I enjoyed. My last job was a customer service job that I enjoyed. The thing with jobs is mostly that you 1) have to find something that you are willing to do for a long period of time and not just because its going to put money in your pocket because any old job would do that. 2) actually give a damn about what you are doing. Again if you have the attitude that you are just there for a check they are going to treat you like you only want a check and treat you like crap.
 
I dont agree with that black eye peas example...


Hell, in the next two years ill proply be makin music that different to that of what i do now.... cause i want to


There is no real example of a "sell out"; life about having fun, makin friends and MAKING MONEY! Harsh but true reality.


Here's why i think there's also noo such thing as a sell out;
when we make tracks we make beats that we like but more importantly what we think an artist will like and what will sell.




JUST MY $0.02
 
Deus Ex Machina said:
So I was on the couch naked eatin cheetohs. A man pops up on the tv and says "are you sad?" I said no. He said "are you lonely?" I said no. He said "are you naked on your couch eatin cheetohs?" I said holy sheot!!,got dressed and clicked on this topic.

A sell-out,in the context given,is defined as one who sacrifices his original cause for some type monetary gain or otherwise noted increase in status. The rapper known as 2pac is a good example for this. His "thug life" movement went from making it despite of ostacles,mostly white oppression to being literally about thugging. Before he died he was representing Bloods on wax ( you think you da mob?we da mob!! 151 MOB Piru is Suge's set),yet also a Five Percenter. I have a Vibe Tupac edition which confirms it;page 97. Jay-Z..is no sellout
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Nah Pac was far from a sellout. He was pretty much a street activist his whole career. He wasn't representing bloods on wax. He flipped the meaning of MOB which normally means Member of Bloods to MOB which he flipped to Money Over *******. Pac's whole thing was putting positive spins on words that sound negative at face value. Example; T.H.U.G L.I.FE = The Hate U Give Littles Infants ****s Everybody. N.I.G.G.A.'s = Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished. Pac had messages of white oppression all the way up to his last album recorded Makaveli (White Mans World, Hold Ya Head ect). You can accuse him of being a sellout during his Digital Underground days where he had to do what he had to do to get put on (roadie, dancer, ect).
 
IAMSOSA said:
Yea wayne is a bigger swagger jacker of the two of them he bit a whole verse from Big Moe and spit it on his own **** Jay aint never stole a whole verse from nobody
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dude I think you got a skewed idea of what stealing goes as far as verses go.

Big Moe is VERY WELL known at least in this region. And anybody aware of big moe very well knows it was originally his. Its not as if Wayne was trying to pass the verse off as his. He even said HIS NAME IN DA SONG AS WELL AS SCREWED UP CLICK. I'm sure if asked about it he would have told exactly what song he was referencing.
 
Theres artists with their own fanbases and good incomes, because they do them,the thing about mainstream success is that people sell plenty but only for a short time, then they go into obscurity...i can't even name half the rappers that i half-remember that this has happened to. If an artist does themself/their own style on a record...which i consider "having fun" rather than doing a carbon copy autotune flavour of the month track for a quick buck, they can keep a steady constant/consistant fanbase, and in turn be the difference between an artist and a street hooker.
I can't count the times i've heard rappers talk about how they hate the pop bastard child of hiphop on fifty percent of their songs, only to become that exact thing they claimed they hate the next year. thats selling out to me, turning into what you hate.
If you enjoy making throwaway bubblegum pop that will go out of fashion as quick as a souljah boy record-go for it, but know when you make your quick buck you'll probably be out of a job for a while
 
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