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alrite so this questions been plaqin ya boy for a minute.... wut tempos are used for hip hop songs?? on average mine are like 94-96 but alot of cats been tellin me they cant rap to the beat... my beats arent terrible they actually have a rhythm i can flow on em.... but idk... is it because its alot synth beats out from the souf right now?? w/e... but what tempo do yall use when yall atractin a hip hop audience
 
90-110 is basically the universal tempo for hiphop beats, but i use 120 because im gangsta like that.
 
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sounds like whoever you're messin with can't rap. 94-96 is prime spittin tempo! the majority of Hip Hop songs range from 85-100 these days. back in the day they were generally a lot faster with cats like BDK. a lot of the southern crunk etc is probably in the mid 80s or less but they double & triple time the hi hats. show us some of your beats maybe there's something else that a fellow producer could point out that's giving you the problem.
 
You guys are Wrong!!! This is what happens when you don't stay in tune with music other than what you like. Average hip hop had a tempo between 88-98 before the recent trend of "southern beats". The guy who's saying 120 is most likely counting 2 bars as 4, in actuality, your beat is 60bpm.

Majority of the stuff out today has a way slower tempo and faster fill ins(hi hats, synth arps, snare rolls, ect.). From dem' franchise boys to dipset and everything between, average hip hop beat's tempo is between 64 and 86 these days.

Not saying there aren't acceptions, but boom bap old school drums like "straight to the bank"(50 cent)aren't as used in 2007 as stuff like "Make it rain", Lil' Wayne's whole Carter 2 album, "This Is why I'm hot(Mims), and dipset style production.

The reason most people in 2007 can't rap to beats above a tempo of 90 is because they're not trying to sound like Rakim, Busta, Redman, Eminem, DMX or Canibus. They're trying to sound like Rick Ross, Lil' Wayne, TI, Dipset, Mims. As a producer, you gotta change with times if you expect artists to want your beats. That's not selling out, that's keeping current. You can still keep a stash just in case you find an MC that wants those 90 tempo joints, but most won't.
 
Azza said:
90-110 is basically the universal tempo for hiphop beats, but i use 120 because im gangsta like that.
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That's far too fast, and why use the same tempo for every beat?

I used to make beats that were around 110-120bpm but now I go for around 90-100. I guess you could say the way you flip the sample and the type of rapper you want on it should dictate the tempo you should go for.
There shouldn't be any set rules anyway.
 
deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
You guys are Wrong!!! This is what happens when you don't stay in tune with music other than what you like. Average hip hop had a tempo between 88-98 before the recent trend of "southern beats". The guy who's saying 120 is most likely counting 2 bars as 4, in actuality, your beat is 60bpm.

Majority of the stuff out today has a way slower tempo and faster fill ins(hi hats, synth arps, snare rolls, ect.). From dem' franchise boys to dipset and everything between, average hip hop beat's tempo is between 64 and 86 these days.

Not saying there aren't acceptions, but boom bap old school drums like "straight to the bank"(50 cent)aren't as used in 2007 as stuff like "Make it rain", Lil' Wayne's whole Carter 2 album, "This Is why I'm hot(Mims), and dipset style production.

The reason most people in 2007 can't rap to beats above a tempo of 90 is because they're not trying to sound like Rakim, Busta, Redman, Eminem, DMX or Canibus. They're trying to sound like Rick Ross, Lil' Wayne, TI, Dipset, Mims. As a producer, you gotta change with times if you expect artists to want your beats. That's not selling out, that's keeping current. You can still keep a stash just in case you find an MC that wants those 90 tempo joints, but most won't.
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^ Real Talk.
and A lot of Dipset beats done by the heatmakerz are very fast and "Aggressive"
with tom rolls and hi hats an them crazy samples they use very high pitched
I did a few heatmakerz remakes a while back and I had a one with a tempo of 150 and it sound just like the orginal song.
 
There are a couple fruity loop beats... just a sample of em... wat do yall think and thanks for the input yall, well im in to the whole boom bap joint so im pretty sure there wont be any synth beats from me
 
ive been doing tracks at like 80-85 latley. depends on the sample.
 
Alot of times when i try to do a sample like that the drums dont seem to match... does anybody kno how to get around that
 
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There are a couple fruity loop beats... just a sample of em... wat do yall think and thanks for the input yall, well im in to the whole boom bap joint so im pretty sure there wont be any synth beats from me
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See, that's the problem. Nobody said nothing about no damn synths. Everybody think when you give them pointers to make there music current, you're trying to change their music. "Kick Push" by lupe, "thru the wire" by Kanye, 9th wonder sh*t, all way slower than that sh*t you just posted, ain't no synths got nothing to do with it.

Slow your sh*t down, or no one will be able to rap to it. Last time people rapped to stuff at that pace was bacdafucupo by Onyx. Shut em down by onyx wasn't even those type tempos.

Sorry for being blunt, but people ask for help and then don't wanna change sh*t. If you don't wanna sell no beats immediately leave it like it is until you find someone to cop it. If not, make the same beats you been making, use samples like you been doing, but slow them sh*ts down so people in 2007 can rap to them.
 
Yea ok... all i said is i wont be doin synth beats... because i dont want to ... and i did ask if you read the thread how do you get drums to match samples at a slower rate

and so wut tempos should i b usin n 2007 so people can rap to them
 
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deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:
Majority of the stuff out today has a way slower tempo and faster fill ins(hi hats, synth arps, snare rolls, ect.). From dem' franchise boys to dipset and everything between, average hip hop beat's tempo is between 64 and 86 these days.
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To slow down samples you can just turn down the pitch and match drums to them, or chop/slice and line them up to the tempo you want.
 
alrite so im usin fruity loops rite.... lets say i use like 85 for the tempo... how do i get the drums to play faster....

and match the sample

keep n mind all im usin is fruity loops and acid pro
 
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pLAn B said:
There are a couple fruity loop beats... just a sample of em... wat do yall think and thanks for the input yall, well im in to the whole boom bap joint so im pretty sure there wont be any synth beats from me
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I listened to the beats you posted. Those are nice beats, but not every MC is going to be able to spit over that. When you are in the studio with them working, make sure they are actually trying to spit over that because that first beat was really nice. For beats that are all-over-the-place (in a good way), you have to find a beat to work off of and your own rhythm with the beat. If they can't get a rhythm going, then to be blunt, that is on them, not you. You can only try to get them on it so much.
 
70s-low 100s.

Alot of southern stuff and dipset beats are actually slow. Its just that the highhats are playing on the 1/32 so it sounds way faster than it really is. NY-ish stuff tends to be faster though. Like 92ish.

Unless you're doing trance like speeds (110+ with no double time) a rapper should be able to adjust. Cuz if its too fast they can half-time their flow and if the beat is slow they can double time it. Anything in the middle they just rap normal speed.
 
search around plan b...there have been lots of discussions on matching a sample to a tempo using all kinds of soft and hardware.

to me it is important to play around making beats in lots of styles and tempos. to work as a producer these days, i feel you have to be able to bring whatever is needed for a particular project.
even though there is a lot of slower, southern style, beats right now, there is also a big resurge of the boom bap.
you gotta be able to take advantage of all your opportunities, see producers like timbo that make everything from hip hop to dance-pop, or dj premier making beats for xtina aguilera. "ain't no other man" is like 130 bpm!
 
Yea Good Look Yall... earwizzle i feel you on that but i havent been makin beats but a lil over a year on and off and there is still a lot i have to learn
 
pLAn B said:
There are a couple fruity loop beats... just a sample of em... wat do yall think and thanks for the input yall, well im in to the whole boom bap joint so im pretty sure there wont be any synth beats from me
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They were really good, and I don't think they were too fast at all.
Don't compromise your beats for TI wannabees, find yourself a fast rapper!
 
does it really matter whut BPM u put it in??


Cus i use to put my beats in the default 140 in fl

My BEATs would still come out slow as hell!! instead of 4 bars i would make it 8.


But since everybody said that hip hop tempo is usually around 80 - 90, i decided to do the same.
 
it doesn't really matter what tempo you put it at because you can put your drums anywhere you want really but it's easier to put a 90 BPM beat at 90 so your snares are on the 2 & 4 & it makes it easier to count the bars & stuff like that.
 
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