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Neokinetik
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hey, my price range is like $1800 for a sub and speakers, what should i pick up? and should i get active or passive equipment? what are the advantages/disadvatages? thanks, pz.
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louped garou
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check out the B-52 stuff
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catnap
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go active and go modular. your best bet is 2-4 single 15" powered subs with 2 powered 12" or 15" high-packs on top of them.
hauling heavy speakers and amps suuuuucks, plus a modular system allows you to scale it to the size of event neccessary.
take a look at Vidsonix.com, as well as Sampson, JBL, and Mackie's active gear.
hauling heavy speakers and amps suuuuucks, plus a modular system allows you to scale it to the size of event neccessary.
take a look at Vidsonix.com, as well as Sampson, JBL, and Mackie's active gear.
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Nicknack
"The KAVA KING"
are those vidsonix good? How do they compare to the mackies?
look to be a bit cheaper
but im conserned with durability
look to be a bit cheaper
but im conserned with durability
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catnap
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Nicknack said:
I used to own a pair of their double 10" cabinets, and was very impressed with them. good bass response and decent highs, especially for a pair of boxes i scored for $180.
I don't know how their active gear stands up to the big-name boys, but they are one of the few "unknown" brands to get my stamp of approval.
A while back, i was considering peicing together a modular active system using 4 Samson active 15" subs with a pair of active Vidsonix 15"'s as high-packs.
What I was trying to do was copy the HK Aktor system (www.hkaudio.com), which is a german-made active system that is worlds better than JBL or Mackie. I used to rent one from a local guy for gigs, and to this day it remains the best mobile system i've ever used. Unfortunately, the Actor system is about $5,000 to buy, so I was trying to get as close to it for under $2000 as possible.
You may also want to look at Yorkville and EV's active offerings, although they are pricey.
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louped garou
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catnap said:
you must mean worlds better than cheaper JBL....
top flight JBL, vintage or new, is tough to beat -- but as you allude to they too have gone and screwed up their rep by releasing poor quality 'consumer grade' components as well....
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catnap
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louped garou said:
yeah, i was only referring to JBL's EON active systems, which are only entry to mid-level in terms of audio quality.
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Neokinetik
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thanks for the suggestions, what do you mean by 'modular'? thanks, pz.
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catnap
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by "modular" i mean that all the speakers should be small and light enough for you to carry by yourself, and that they should work together in a variety of different setups.
For instance, the arrangement i reccomended was 4 powered single-15" subs with two powered 15" tops. that way you can use the system with just the tops for a small crowd, with the tops and one pair of subs for a medium crowd, or the full-on 4-sub, 2-top configuration for a larger crowd.
that way, you won't find yourself dragging out a large set of speakers for a gig that doesn't warrant them.
For instance, the arrangement i reccomended was 4 powered single-15" subs with two powered 15" tops. that way you can use the system with just the tops for a small crowd, with the tops and one pair of subs for a medium crowd, or the full-on 4-sub, 2-top configuration for a larger crowd.
that way, you won't find yourself dragging out a large set of speakers for a gig that doesn't warrant them.
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meridian5i2
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I would go for powered mid-high cabs definitly
Mackie SRM450s are great for mobile DJ setups.
As far as subs -- I'm not a fan of powered subs. I tend to stick with large passive subs, with 18" drivers. More work, but sounds richer, warmer, deeper...
Mackie SRM450s are great for mobile DJ setups.
As far as subs -- I'm not a fan of powered subs. I tend to stick with large passive subs, with 18" drivers. More work, but sounds richer, warmer, deeper...
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danteism
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Would love some recommendations on specific models/brands for a similar, but perhaps slightly higher end system.
I'm looking for a complete system for under $6000 which needs to include all cables and any additional rack items that might be needed such as EQ / Compressors etc.
I've got the Mixer / Turntable end covered already.
Definitely needs to be modular so it can be used for outdoor events which at times will require hiking equipment as much as a mile or two by hand.
It needs to easily handle a crowd of up to 3-400.
Needs to be rugged enough to handle the wear and tear of outdoor set ups and breakdowns, but be light enough that it won't break my back during transport. (i.e. I'd rather have 2 lighter bass cabinets to do the same work than one heavier one)
The less I need to hook up / break down the happier I'll be, so I'm guessing active will be the way to go as well.
Thanks in advance for any advice or insights
I'm looking for a complete system for under $6000 which needs to include all cables and any additional rack items that might be needed such as EQ / Compressors etc.
I've got the Mixer / Turntable end covered already.
Definitely needs to be modular so it can be used for outdoor events which at times will require hiking equipment as much as a mile or two by hand.
It needs to easily handle a crowd of up to 3-400.
Needs to be rugged enough to handle the wear and tear of outdoor set ups and breakdowns, but be light enough that it won't break my back during transport. (i.e. I'd rather have 2 lighter bass cabinets to do the same work than one heavier one)
The less I need to hook up / break down the happier I'll be, so I'm guessing active will be the way to go as well.
Thanks in advance for any advice or insights
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twelsch42
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wow, i'm trying to picture someone hiking even a few hundred meters with a bass cabinet.
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Nicknack
"The KAVA KING"
any one else have any reviews on the Vidsonix
im piecing together a mobile dj rig and am considering getting some of these..a couple of there active 15's or 12's and a sub would be less than 1 mackie 450.
im just concerned with durabilty and good enough sound.....so i dont do a wedding and have em go out on me or some BS
jeesh though ,they seam like a good deal if there as good as they say........
NickB
im piecing together a mobile dj rig and am considering getting some of these..a couple of there active 15's or 12's and a sub would be less than 1 mackie 450.
im just concerned with durabilty and good enough sound.....so i dont do a wedding and have em go out on me or some BS
jeesh though ,they seam like a good deal if there as good as they say........
NickB
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danteism
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I'd love to hear the same.
I've heard nothing but great things about their 12's and 15's but am wondering if their subs are up to par as well.
Side note: they actually don't offer a powered 15" speaker, but do have powered 12's.
Dante
I've heard nothing but great things about their 12's and 15's but am wondering if their subs are up to par as well.
Side note: they actually don't offer a powered 15" speaker, but do have powered 12's.
Dante
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meridian5i2
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danteism said:
I would seriously consider JBL's new SRX series. They use neodyium rare-earth magnet drivers (light) and are top quality cabinets. dual voice coil low end drivers, large-format horns.
very light. the SRX715 (15" + large format horn) only weighs 40-someodd pounds and handles a full 800 watts.
the SRX series isnt cheap, but damn.. some of the most well rounded speakers I've seen.
consider QSC powerlight amps -- lots of power, without all the weight...
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louped garou
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for expert advice on ALtec and JBL product line, post on www.audioheritage.org in the "technical help" or "general" areas -- these guys really know the JBL lines, they are also very honest and willing to share thier thoughts, if you want to ask about which speakers for a mobile in general and not just JBL related, post in the "off topic" area...
I love my ALTEC model 19s -- not good for one man mobile though, unless you are into moving weight -- they are huge and heavy. But the sound quality can not be beat...
I run 14 Tube WPC to my 19s and can not turn it up all the way b/c the efficiency of these cabinets is so high, my neighbors would be calling the cops...
I love my ALTEC model 19s -- not good for one man mobile though, unless you are into moving weight -- they are huge and heavy. But the sound quality can not be beat...
I run 14 Tube WPC to my 19s and can not turn it up all the way b/c the efficiency of these cabinets is so high, my neighbors would be calling the cops...
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danteism
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Thanks so much for sharing your ideas on this.
I'll post over at the other forum you suggested, and I'll check out those new JBL's as well.
Regarding the HK system mentioned earlier in the thread...
I looked into the HK Audio ACTOR system and it's actually going for $7000! (which is $2000 more than suggested above)
It does look incredibly sexy though. Since my ceiling is about 5K at the moment I'm actually considering getting just a pair of the HK ACTOR tops and bottoms and then adding the second pair of subs when finances permit.
One drawback is that there isn't a single US distributor of the HK line. I'd need to have it shipped from Mexico where the only dealer in the Americas is located.
If anybody wants to chime in and tell me that I'm nuts for even thinking about this and can recommend a light active system of comparable or better quality for the price, I'm all ears.
Many thanks,
Dante
I'll post over at the other forum you suggested, and I'll check out those new JBL's as well.
Regarding the HK system mentioned earlier in the thread...
I looked into the HK Audio ACTOR system and it's actually going for $7000! (which is $2000 more than suggested above)
It does look incredibly sexy though. Since my ceiling is about 5K at the moment I'm actually considering getting just a pair of the HK ACTOR tops and bottoms and then adding the second pair of subs when finances permit.
One drawback is that there isn't a single US distributor of the HK line. I'd need to have it shipped from Mexico where the only dealer in the Americas is located.
If anybody wants to chime in and tell me that I'm nuts for even thinking about this and can recommend a light active system of comparable or better quality for the price, I'm all ears.
Many thanks,
Dante
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danteism
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Okay, so I've been looking at those JBL's you suggested.
Which of the QSC Powerlights would be the right size for the job if I was running one of the two following configurations (in stereo)....
1) 2 SRX715 Tops and 2 SRX718S Bottoms
2) 2 SRX715 Tops and 4 SRX718S Bottoms
Thanks in advance for helping out a complete audioboob. ;-)
Dante
Which of the QSC Powerlights would be the right size for the job if I was running one of the two following configurations (in stereo)....
1) 2 SRX715 Tops and 2 SRX718S Bottoms
2) 2 SRX715 Tops and 4 SRX718S Bottoms
Thanks in advance for helping out a complete audioboob. ;-)
Dante
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louped garou
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alot if the older guys will suggest that you get amps that are about 3X the max. power rating for the speakers, and run the amps on lower levels -- the theory is that running the amp full hot and clipping all (or most) of the time will contribute to unnecessary wear and tear on the amp, and thus shorten it's life....
but then it can become a budget issue...
but then it can become a budget issue...
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catnap
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danteism said:
at the risk of repeating myself, go with the HK if you can afford it. Having used the ACTOR system at a number of gigs, I've never heard anything like it before or after! Unbeleivable quality, room-filling thundering sound, and easy lightweight modular construction.
however, at $7000 for the ACTOR, you might want to look into a comparable system from Yorkville, Mackie, or EV - especially Yorkville... you may not get the same sound quality as the ACTOR, but you'll get close to it for perhaps a grand or two less, plus domestic tech support.