so who on this site has gotten placements through PMP so far?

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you've just exposed yourself for being misinformed and/or fraudulent by saying lenny s and riggs do not work at their perspective labels when in fact that they do to this day. And questioning whether mike caren is still an a&r at atlantic when he's currently an sr exec a&r and co-president of elektra further makes you look like a fool so stop it. And anthony scoe never worked for def jam, but people that are actually in this business know that.

Learn how to research properly before you call yourself 'informing' anybody about anything because its obvious you don't have a clue. A lesson for you on your first 'rant session' post on fp lol...







whatever. That's bull sht. I did background check on all of them. You can say whatever you want. You can believe whatever you want. Just remember this much... The stupid lose, and the smart people win. End of discussion.
 
Not asking you to give exact figures. Just around ball park figure
So people can know how much ad revenue can really be achieved.

Cause even with Google ads ,It takes a really good amount traffic, to earn anything and that is Google.



I think the Top Tier last period was about $1500.

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whatever. That's bull sht. I did background check on all of them. You can say whatever you want. You can believe whatever you want. Just remember this much... The stupid lose, and the smart people win. End of discussion.



So wait...you email Conrad on his Blackberry (which I'm surprised you even got a response ANYWAY), you beg him to listen to your beats, tell him that you have money and you'll pay whatever he wants...


And then you come on here dissing him? And then get mad when your emails come out???



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Yep!!! And here it is! I can show you the whole conversation with conrad here.

YEP AND I ALREADY KNEW IT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. I WAS PLAYING HEAD GAMES WITH HIM. I WILL SEND THE WHOLE MESSAGE THAT I HAD WITH HIM ON HERE.



FROM NAKITA: Hey Conrad Dimanche, how are you today? My name is Nakita, I just came across a vid on Youtube about you looking for the next big thing, and to my surprise, I had to contact you up about it. Thank you for this opportunity. I'm really psyched about this opportunity. About me, I am 22 years old from Miami Florida, and my signature sound is Spunky Funk. I produce my own music, write my own songs, and create/make my own beats most of the time. I never gone to a recording studio before. I usually do all my music from a software called Mixcraft, Pro-tools and GoldWave which I do all my recording, editing, and mastering from. I would like for you to check out my songs and see if you think I have potential......................If you like what you hear, please give me a call at 954-985-8756 or you can email me at .................... If I or no one picks up, than leave me a message, or email me instead, and I'll call you back as soon as possible. Have a great day.

From: Nakita



FROM CONRAD: What's up, so what I do is set up meetings for artist with good music. The meetings are with heads of A&R at major labels, I get the meetings by giving the label my personal cosign of the artist or producer. I charge 1200 per meeting and would need to screen the music as I have to protect my reputation, if you are interested I can send you my gmail address to get the ball rolling. I also provide a one page agreement guaranteeing the meeting
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile



FROM NAKITA: Ok cool, I'm interested no matter what. I can send you the amount of songs I have for you to check out through your gmail account. Yes, send me your gmail address please. So if I get accepted, are you going to fly to my hometown to see me? Is that how it works? Or I have to fly to come see y'all? Is there a place where I have to go to meet y'all? What if I don't have that kind of money on me? I never own that kind of money before, I wish I had that kind of money to pay you upfront, but, is there any other way I can pay you back?


FROM CONRAD: You should reachout to me when your more prepared because if approved not only would you have to pay the 1200 fee but you would need to fly to ny to meet with the record label


FROM NAKITA: Aight, will see what happens. I might have to get loan money first. Is this how it always works?


FROM CONRAD: This is my consulting company that specializes in bringing artist to the labels to be considered for record deals


FROM NAKITA: I see. It sounds straight. Like I said, will see what happens. I would get the loan money once I know i'm accepted first. What is your gmail so I can send you my songs?


FROM CONRAD: Send 3 songs along with contact number to majormeetings@gmail.com


FROM NAKITA: Alright, Check your mail to see if you received it, I just sent them out.

The 3 tracks are

1. You Not My Friend.
2. Open (Shut The Door).
3. I Want To Beep You.


FROM CONRAD: I got the email but your contact # was not there


FROM NAKITA:
Opps, it's 954--------. Did you check out the songs yet?


FROM CONRAD: No will take a listen a little later


FROM NAKITA: Alright cool. Let me know what you think later.


FROM CONRAD: Hey your music is pretty cool, very unique my favorite is your not my friend production on all three were pretty dope too. I will be happy to give the labels my cosign of you and get some meetings set up. I think you should try meeting with def jam here in ny


FROM NAKITA: That's what's up! I glad you find it cool. I get that kind of responds a lot from others. It's my signature sound called Spunky Funk, there's plenty more where that came from. When will it be a good time to set a counference meeting with me? Where in NY will it be head at? What is the address where it's located, and when is the deadline to pay. Once I get the money, we can get things cracking.

I have a question. Are you familar with Mataliga Records? I have received a message 2 week ago from an A&R name Alex who wants to give me a development deal, but I haven't heard from him in weeks. He said the label is distributed by Atlantic Records. Is there such thing as that label? I look it up and I couldn't find a damn thing about the label.


FROM CONRAD: Well first I think you should meet with def jam records with the vice president of A&R Lenny S. Their office is located in midtown manhattan and when will be on you and how soon you can get prepared with the funds. Let me know, only takes me a day to get confirmations on meeting after receiving payment


FROM NAKITA: Aight, I heard about him before. So once I meet up with Lenny S, what happens next? How is the meeting like?

Ok, so when do I pay? Do I pay now, or when I get there?


FROM CONRAD: You listens and vibes with you and your music in consideration of giving you a deal, he's the Vp their


FROM NAKITA: I know he is lol. Sounds good to me. It's worth the money. Send me the paper works so I check it out. I'll see what I can do. Just give me time.


FROM CONRAD: Just sent agreement, let me know


FROM NAKITA: I just got done reading it. So let me get this straight, I have to deposit 600 bucks per hour? What if I leave 1 hours early, and just pay 600 bucks, would that make me look bad? Don't get me wrong, I would stay through out the 3 hours and pay 1200 bucks. Finicially i'm struggling, no job wants to hirer me, and if I was to have 1200 bucks, I would have to have an extra 200 bucks in my pocket just to fly to NY and to stay at a cheap motel or hotel. I will get back atcha whenever I get 1400 bucks. It will probably take a while or months for me to receive my loan money.


FROM CONRAD: Ok but the agreement says nothing about hours, its 1200 per meeting. 600 deposit for me to give the label my cosign of you and get the meeting set up and 600 balance due before the meeting


FROM NAKITA: I got y'all. I see what you saying. I read it wrong, I was thinking 400 bucks an hour, doh! And yeah I can easily pay 600 bucks up front than full of amount, as you know I never own that kind of money ever in my life. I will sign it once I get the money.


FROM CONRAD: Ok cool, let me know


FROM NAKITA: SUP MAN, I GOT THE MONEY.


FROM CONRAD: Ok when did you want to do meeting with label


FROM NAKITA: I would set a meeting with the label once Scoe, Conrad, Riggs, and Lenny stop doing freelance A&R jobs. I like you Conrad, I know you done a lot of artist when you was working for Bad Boy, but I gotta be real with you man, I'm a psy...., and I know what's up.
I will let everyone know what's up starting today.

This is what I will say.

Scoe, Conrad, Riggs, and Lenny are Scam artist. BE VERY AWARE...........................


FROM CONRAD: You have issues and do your research I left bad boy and was offered a substantial raise to stay after declining I stayed on as a consultant. I don't know what the hell you are talking about but your obviously bitter because you can't make it in the business and your damn right I have every right to charge for my services, I'm one of the most decorated A&R's in the business. You not having a dollar to invest in yourself is your main problem, this is a business. Thanks for your time ignoramus


FROM NAKITA: SCAMMER. YOU JUST A FREELANCE A&R AND YOU USING THE LABEL JUST TO PROVE TO EVERYONE THAT YOU WOULD HELP THEM SUCCEED. NO A&R CONSULTANT CHARGE ARTIST THAT KIND OF MONEY. GET REAL CONRED. I'M NOT NO DUMMY, DON'T PLAY ME LIKE THAT. MY COUSIN IS A UP AND COMING LAWYER AND SHE WILL HELP ME GET TO MY DREAM SOON ENOUGH. YES SHE DOES THIS FOR ME FOR FREE, BUT IF I WASN'T HER COUSIN, SHE WOULD CHARGE ME. NO A&R ASK FOR MONEY UPFRONT, IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT FOOL!


FROM CONRAD: Good luck and buy a lotto ticket while your at it. That's what I get for putting my info out there.


FROM NAKITA: LMAO OK SEXY. MAUW! :) JAY Z, EMINIEM, JERMAINE DURPRI, P DIDDY ARE A&R DOING THE A&RS JOB BY SIGNING NEW ARTIST. WHY IS THAT? HMMM...

STUPID QUESTION, I KNOW WHY ALREADY. THE MUSIC BUSSINESS IS ****ED UP, I KNOW. I HOPE YOU GET YOUR JOB BACK SOMEDAY. :)


FROM CONRAD: Fyi an artist I set up, is now writing for roc nation and def jam artist. So don't be mad because you think everything should be free and your getting advice from an upcoming lawyer who is obviously very inexperience. Stop complaining and either get your weight up or get out the game


FROM CONRAD: Also god bless you
 
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AND YES I DID BEG HIM TO SIGN ME. IT'S A VERY LONG MESSAGE, SO I HAVE TO SEPARATE THE MESSAGE.

I SAID: Sup man. The loan money ain't gonna come through fast enough, but here's the deal. If you signed me, I will make you richer than you already are. If my first album goes Platinum or Gold and I happen to get paid, all my money will go to you. I swear, I will do anything just to get to my dream. The money doesn't ****ing matter to me. What matters to me is leaving a legacy for future generations to come. I want to make hit records for myself and for other artist. I want to write songs for myself and for other artist. And I want to produce/compose music for myself and for other artist/musicians. Music been dead since 2000 and something. It's now 2011, and music still ain't getting any better. Music needs to be revived as of this year.
I really want to bring something fresh and exciting for this new decade. Please give me the opportuntity to make that happen. I owe you big time.
I'm 22 years old and I already feel like I'm losing time/wasting time with my life. I want to have a long ass career for crying out loud. I have what it takes to be successful in this music bussiness. I have the whole package, i'm not just a wannabe artist like most wannabe's in the ****ing industry. I have over 1 million plays on Myspace. I have created a buzz for myself since I was 18. I been hustling for years and since I have nothing, I can't do shit with my life if I don't get my shit together. I REPEAT, I OWE YOU BIG TIME! LET ME TAKE ATLANTIC RECORDS TO THE TOP.

I LOVE MUSIC TO DEATH, AND WITHOUT MUSIC, I WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.

Think about it.
From: Nakita Benjamin


AND THAN HE SAID: Hey I really appreciate your passion for the music and the business but I really can't make it happen for the promise of payment on the backend, especially because a backend payment is not guaranteed. In addition my personal cosign and this service is much to valuable.


I SAID: I see how that works, but still, don't you believe that I have potential to make hit records and to be a successful artist? I know a hit record when I hear one. Plus, I can write my own songs unlike most artist who can't even right there own songs. I can make my own beats and I can also play music by ear with any instruments. I can rap and sing even though I was a heavy smoker. I can even act too. There's not a lot of female artist like myself who can do it all. I believe that I can make it big. I have people who support me. I just don't know which way to go. Now days life is getting harder and harder everyday. Music is my life man, it's the only thing I have going for me.

Just think about it. I don't have much.


I SAID: MIGHT I ADD, that It won't cost you at all for you to get me a song writer. I have a story to tell. I have experience a lot and done a lot that no one ever sings about. I'm that type of person that speaks her mind and isn't afraid to take riskes. I want people to know my story and to learn from my mistakes.



HE STOP REPLYING AND THAT IS WHEN I DID MY RESEARCH ON HIM JUST TO MAKE SHORE MY INTUITIONS WAS RIGHT, AND FOUND OUT ABOUT SCOE. THAN I DID BACK GROUND CHECK ON ALL OF THEM AND FOUND OUT THAT THEY ARE ALL UNEMPLOYED SINCE 2009.
 
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Fix them drums Rome..You got you own problems to worry about
 
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whatever. That's bull sht. I did background check on all of them. You can say whatever you want. You can believe whatever you want. Just remember this much... The stupid lose, and the smart people win. End of discussion.

Wrong, this is called FACTS and when your working in the business you don't need to any 'background checks' because you know who is in and who is out. As some advice to you get your facts straight and also learn to admit when your 100% incorrect so you don't continue to speak in ignorance because its not a good look. And that includes you calling Mike Caren 'just a producer' because your again 100% wrong. The posture of 'wrong and strong' always puts one in the position of 'weak and bleak'. Especially when its part of your attempt to somehow support your rant agenda...
 
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Wrong, this is called FACTS and when your working in the business you don't need to any 'background checks' because you know who is in and who is out.


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

WTF SHEEEETTTTT. You have lost your mind.
She never claimed to be in the game
 
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uh oh! Troup

Uh oh what??



What I see is Conrad offering to broker a meeting for this person.


What, you think meetings come free????


You can either stand in the "regular line" for 3 hours, or you can pay $50 to go thru the VIP line, and get right in.




This is what consultants do...they BROKER DEALS. And their services cost MONEY.


A scam is not getting what you paid for.



If this person paid their money, and a meeting never happened, then yes, that's a scam.

But I'm willing to stake MY reputation on the fact that if Conrad said he's gonna get you a meeting, then you're gonna be sitting down in a meeting with this person.


It's clear that you'e NEVER done any type of consulting business...EVER.



When I first started my Consulting business back in 1998, one of my first jobs was to go to a dr's office and set up a network. Literally took about 2 hours, and I charged them about $2000 for the work.

You would have called it a SCAM because I was a 21 year old, doing what anybody with basic computer knowledge would have done.

They called it a SERVICE, because they didn't have the time to acquire the "basic computer knowledge", and they got a service that they desperately needed.


So I'm not sure what you're talking about. This person reached out to a CONSULTANT (I knew about Conrad leaving Bad Boy when he LEFT, because he TOLD ME), that consultant gave them the FEE FOR THEIR SERVICES.



So what part of that is a scam?




I'm pretty sure you and this Nakita person are one and the same. You really don't have a life, do you?


This isn't how you build a business. If you spent more time building your brand instead of trying to tear other people's down, you might be making some money.
 
I do not care what you think no more! Just remember what i told you guys! The stupid people lose and the smart people win!

I'm done. I tried but it didn't work. You all are hard headed and been brain washed by them.
It's no use of helping people if they don't want help or advice.

Good bye. I care for people too much to see them get screwed up. And for your information, i am in bussiness school, so i know about the pro's and con's of the music bussiness.

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Get them rich is all i can say.
 
Thread Recap:

Someone begged

Didn't get put on

Decided to try to discredit someone

Someone is broke and mad

The king of Google search strings and is jumping in between the posts because that's the only attention he ever gets. His life seems about as lonely as the threads he starts.

No one that uses the PMP will ever care what this thread says

Use what's available to you and make you own decisions about the products / services


I just saved a lot of people a lot of reading. Thank me later.



Peace and have a great day.
 
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Hmm....Some one can't produce, yet manages to advise on how to produce. thank me later.
Now your plan is knock her post off so nobody can find it.
Cause she gave the whole story

But before you guys were laughing, thinking she was embarrassed that Abom posted it.

Talking bout exposed HYPOCRITES
 
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I do not care what you think no more! Just remember what i told you guys! The stupid people lose and the smart people win!

I'm done. I tried but it didn't work. You all are hard headed and been brain washed by them.
It's no use of helping people if they don't want help or advice.

Good bye. I care for people too much to see them get screwed up. And for your information, i am in bussiness school, so i know about the pro's and con's of the music bussiness.

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Get them rich is all i can say.



Actually...I just lost. Because I spent about 180 seconds listening to your assault on my ear drums. :(



My face hurts.



Oh and LOL @ "business school".


I'm in Football School. I'm gonna play in the NFL in September.
 
by the way this whole thing ended up not having anything to do with PMP

she reached out to Conrad after seeing a youtube video

not being contacted by them as she said in her first post

it was fun reading all of this happen tho lol

Now i'm gonna go back to working hard on music

maybe i'll be lucky enough to have mike caren take my money


hahahhahahahahhaha
 
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Lol on this forum. That is nothing. 12-10-2007 WTF is wrong with guy. lol

This forum is all you got

What about your PMP plays, since you love them so much


POST THAT! LOL
 
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thread recap:

someone begged

didn't get put on

decided to try to discredit someone

someone is broke and mad

the king of google search strings and is jumping in between the posts because that's the only attention he ever gets. His life seems about as lonely as the threads he starts.

No one that uses the pmp will ever care what this thread says

use what's available to you and make you own decisions about the products / services


i just saved a lot of people a lot of reading. Thank me later.



Peace and have a great day.





good that you standing up for what you believe. Just remember what i told you. You will thank me later that's for sure.

No i am not poor, i have money and i'm not stupid enough to give that kind of money away to some scammer.

I was playing mind games/ mind conrtol with conrad. It's obvious duh!

What THEY doing is against the law. So if you do not want to do your research and find out the truth, than that's your choice.
 
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Uh oh what??



What I see is Conrad offering to broker a meeting for this person.


What, you think meetings come free????


You can either stand in the "regular line" for 3 hours, or you can pay $50 to go thru the VIP line, and get right in.




This is what consultants do...they BROKER DEALS. And their services cost MONEY.


A scam is not getting what you paid for.



If this person paid their money, and a meeting never happened, then yes, that's a scam.

But I'm willing to stake MY reputation on the fact that if Conrad said he's gonna get you a meeting, then you're gonna be sitting down in a meeting with this person.


It's clear that you'e NEVER done any type of consulting business...EVER.



When I first started my Consulting business back in 1998, one of my first jobs was to go to a dr's office and set up a network. Literally took about 2 hours, and I charged them about $2000 for the work.

You would have called it a SCAM because I was a 21 year old, doing what anybody with basic computer knowledge would have done.

They called it a SERVICE, because they didn't have the time to acquire the "basic computer knowledge", and they got a service that they desperately needed.


So I'm not sure what you're talking about. This person reached out to a CONSULTANT (I knew about Conrad leaving Bad Boy when he LEFT, because he TOLD ME), that consultant gave them the FEE FOR THEIR SERVICES.



So what part of that is a scam?




I'm pretty sure you and this Nakita person are one and the same. You really don't have a life, do you?


This isn't how you build a business. If you spent more time building your brand instead of trying to tear other people's down, you might be making some money.

That's it, excellent post and basically the end of the discussion. Anything after that is just mindless banter
 
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